Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

I'm sure this has been touched upon before so i appologize for the repetiveness. My buddy uses a WB and loves it but it makes a screaching noise when he draws back. How can this be cured? He heard about spraying teflon on his arrows but i wanted to check on here for ideas. Thanks alot guys.



Zach

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

There will be people here that will tell you that he doesn't have the right size......doesn't have it tuned.....is a dumbaxx.....etc.....

BUT.....

I quit using the WB for this EXACT reason. I usecarbon arrows.....and I'd worked hard to get my stand NINE YARDS from a good, active srape. When the 6-pointer I was drawing down on heard the arrow come back through the WB....he went on full alert. I tried one other time to draw on him....but the WB was making a VERY slight "dragging" sound (like a straw broom on a concrete floor)....and I WAS right on top of him.

I went and had a drop away put on THAT DAY.

I've been called everything from someone who knows nothing.....to an idiot by members of this forum......but I was the only one there. I know what happened.

i have NOTHING against the WB.....as it's on my son's Illusion, right now. It's just not for me.....for this ONE reason.

Jeff

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

I have the same issue with my W/B! I'm going to the pro shop Friday to try some of the Easton carbon arrows with the smoothe finnish. I was told to try that or put a very small piece of felt over the black whiskers. I'll let you know how the arrow test goes Friday.

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

Your buddy doesn't use X-weaves by any chance does he?

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

I had the same problem, that and many other factors caused me to switch to a drop away. And i havnt looked back.

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

Mine is real quiet, no problems with my WB so far. I love it.:D

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

I was using gold tip carbons in RT hardwoods camo and they were noisy on the draw. I was told by someone in this forum that the camo finishwas more noisy than the black
I now shoot the black gold tips and they are very quiet.

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

So, are ya just setting your son up to experience one of your very own failures, OR is he not hunting yet?

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

I use one....no problems for me yet...shoot maxima hunters...very quiet.

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

Thats what wb's do is make a little noise. The arrow won't fall off though so you have some good with bad. A good fall away rest will hold a arrow pretty steady.

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

I use Easton Axis 400 with my WB no problems with biscuit noise!!

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

Maybe it's the type of arrows he is using...I don't know. I shoot with a WB and it's quiet. I am shooting Beman ICS 340 Camo Hunters. Is it an older style Buscuit? If it's the all black one then they tended to be slightly louder until they were shot a few times and "broken in" so to speak. The bristles on the all black Biscuits are stiffer than the new brown and black Biscuits. It could be a lot of different things causing the noise.

I do know that if the opening is too small (wrong size) or if it's out of tuneit will make more noise. It appearsSBGobblerswould like you to believe these things aren't important but they are.

As with ANY rest on the market today, you can't just slap it on and expect it towork to it's optimum performance. You need to adjust and fine tune it.

There are many many deer killed at very close ranges with Whisker Biscuit rests so they do work. Do somedigging and I'm sure you will find out the cause of the noise. Teflon spray while it may work is just a temp fix, he needs to find out why it's making noise.

Good luck and let us know how it turns out.

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

My wb makes the same noise but i listened to my friends dropaway and his also made a dragging noise.

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

Spray them w/ Carolina's waterproofing agent and the noise is gone. And your buscuits will last longer...

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

What does your arrow drag across and make no noise when you draw with a drop away?

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

I do use the X-weave radial hunter arrows and they are loud! I take you've experienced the same thing??

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

x weaves are terrible with wb's

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

I was using aluminums and getting some noise. Switched to Beman ICS Hunters and no noise no mo'. You do need to make sure you are using the right size biscuit. It should be a loose fit. My buddy's son had one and it had too small of a biscuit and it definitely made noise.

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

Once again another reason to shoot the Trophy Taker drop away; silent, dependable, and NO FLETCHING CONTACT!!!HCH

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

What does the arrow drag against when drawing with a Trophy Taker?

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

Solid teflon coated plastic?

If I remember right.

Correct or no, HCH?

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

Moleskin HCH

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

Metal; no plastic. Moleskin applied .HCH

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

Howler:

I'm not setting my son up. He's 14 yrs old.....and the containment aspect of the WB far outweighs the stealth benefits that the drop away holds.....for HIM. Had it not been SOOOOOO quiet in the woods that day.....I may still have one on my bow, too.

I'm not one to typically set my son up for failure. You obviously know me NOT.

Jeff

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

BigJ:

I never said they weren't important (My you WB guys are a "touchy" lot, aren't you.....).Defensive?????

What I WAS saying is......there will be "some" people that will tell you that ANYTHING other than your WB is making noise.....is the problem. I KNOW I had the right size WB. I know I had it tuned, correctly. I know mine.....and EVERY ONE I'VE EVER SEEN/HEARD has made noise.

That's all.

Jeff

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

I had the same problem with my old WB, what i did was took my dremel with a sanding stone and sanded some of the gunk that was around the hold, this helped a bit but not good enough. I tried teflon on my arrows, only a temp. solution. SoI bought a new one. Heres a tip, if you wear face paint. make sure your hands are clean before you handle your arrows and other equipment. Face paint will dry to your WB.

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

Spray them w/ Carolina's waterproofing agent and the noise is gone. And your buscuits will last longer...

exactly that is the whole solution they sell it in the cabelas archery catalog

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

A tiny bit of moleskin that I applied. It's 100% stealth.

In ALL honesty.....I also knew that ....at "some" point.....I'd switch or, at least, TRY a drop away. I wanted to shoot in some 3D shoots....and drop away rests are VASTLY predominant in that arena. So....that fact made switching easier, too.

Jeff
p.s. I ALSO shoot Radial X-weaves

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

This is my boy with his 1st deer at age 11 taken with a Trophy Taker. If he can hunt without a full containment arrow rest anybody can. Noise when drawing an arrow is not tolerable when hunting. That's why my whole family shoots a Trophy Taker. We can shoot feathers, blasers, whatever and don't have to worry about noise or fletching contact.We don't have to worry about cock feather position like a prong rest requires either.What I don't understand is that on all of these WB threads one guy states that his is the quietest rest on the market and then another guy says that his doesn't tear up fletches and than some other guy says as long as he shoots blasers through his it is OK and than somebody else says he can shoot any feather through his WB and they all work with no fletching damage and than we get guys who say they tear them up and are noisey to draw an arrow through. Last I knew a WB is a WB is a WB. How do all these guys get different results? One of the great wonders of the world I guess. Stick with the drop aways; nothing to not like and no different stories. They just work; period.HCH

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

Thanks for all the help guys, i'll be sure to let him know.




Zach

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

But you have since said that you had to modify the drop away due to noise..........so how did this solve your problem?


So a tiny perceived noise from a WB is intollerable but the same thing from a drop away is OK?? Doesn't make sense.

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

This is the part that always makes me laugh.........I love watching people invent reasons why they don't like a WB. This is one of my favorites. "It makes noise".........stop the presses!!! An arrow rest makes noise when an arrow is dragged over it for 2 feet???.......In other shocking news.......water is wet. EVERY rest will have a sound coming from it when you drag an arrow over it.........all of the sudden it is unacceptable coming from a WB?? I have shot many different arrows of all kinds of finishes through WB's for over 3 years now and NEVER noticed a sound I would be concerned about when hunting. In the 3 years I have used the WB and a bunch of different arrows not even one of the six deer I killed even twitched when I drew on them........farthest kill was 20 yards......closest was 13.........feet. I don't see how sound could be an issue with this rest.......not one of any concern at least.

I am just busting your guys bells on this one............please don't take this personally.......I just found it funny that both guys complaining about noise from a WB have their drop aways coated with mole skin.

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

I stopped usin the biscuit. it tour but vanes to much. i had to replace them once a month.

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

"I'm sure this has been touched upon before so i appologize for the repetiveness. My buddy uses a WB and loves it but it makes a screaching noise when he draws back. How can this be cured? He heard about spraying teflon on his arrows but i wanted to check on here for ideas. Thanks alot guys."

"This is the part that always makes me laugh.........I love watching people invent reasons why they don't like a WB."

Hey atlasman, here's the original post and the guy apologises for asking it again since he knows it's been mentioned many times before. How is this an invention of some kind? It's brought up almost weekly. Glad you like your WB but facts are facts and it is a fact that many people think there is a problem with the noise coming from a WB. Just what a week or so and it will be asked again.

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

I personally don't like WB for the simple reason they don't work well with Quickspin vanes. I am sure someone on here is going to post next yelling that they work great with quickspins. I also had noise with mine. I never got mine into the woods the noise was bad enough on the range for me to remove it and put on a trophy taker shakey hunter. Yes I got mine covered in moleskin and it is very very quiet. I loved the idea of the WB andthe not having to worry about the arrow falling off the rest but since they came out with the arrow holders that mount to the shelf of the bow and totally holds the arrow I will never look at another WB. This is all my own personal opionions and my own personal abservations. To each his own and I wish them the best of luck with them, But it drop away all the way for me.

Trytan

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

Read what I wrote........I wasn't talking to the original poster.

Saying a rest makes noise when an arrow gets dragged over it is like saying grass is green..........it is not unique to the WB or any other rest for that matter. The arrow has to drag over something during the draw cycle and the friction it encounters will emit some level of sound........that is just a fact. If it is a problem for you then you must find a way to eliminate this friction........mole skin, fork tamers, sprays, etc.

When you say you won't shoot a WB due to sound issues........but then go out and modify another rest to make it more quiet......then yes it is an invention........because the other rest you bought isn't any quieter.......the modification is...........you just chose to modify the other rest and not the WB.

Just like seeing people say they won't shoot a WB because it "slows" their arrow down............then they post a picture of their rig with peep tubing on it and all kinds of other junk on the string..............it's more perception then reality.

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

I hate the WB. I drags for me. jmho

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

Never used Quickspins so I can't comment on them. I fletch all my own arrows with 2" Blazers...........great vanes, good price. I do know that if I had a vane issue I would change vanes before I changed rests........but that's just me.

What was it about the Quick Spins that "didn't work"??


Just a question...........Why were you willing to modify the drop away........but not the WB?




I had a drop away with the arrow holder on the riser shelf...........didn't work for me. I don't like hanging my bow on the tree. I don't like all the movement it takes to reach for it and get ready. I like to lay my bow arcross my Summit front rail and then just pick up and shoot when the time comes. This caused multiple problems with the drop away arrow holder. First of all it bounced out several times just picking up my bow and rattled off the riser.........thankfully never when I was looking at a deer........but I felt like I had to be careful with it to keep it contained. Then the constant side weight of the arrow plus moisture I guess just made the adhesive come loose and the whole thing fell off one day in my stand. That's all trouble I don't need in the woods. For years now my bow is not even in my mind when I am in my stand. I am so sure I can depend on it I don't even think about it. I just nock an arrow and lay it across my rail. If I am fortunate enough to get a chance at a deer the only time my focus leaves the animal is to clip on my release to the loop. My bow is ready in 2 seconds with hardly any movement on my part......the draw is smooth and quiet........and the accuracy is deadly. What else is there?

I like drop away rests.........but for hunting the WB is a far superior option IMO.

RE: Whisker Biscuit making noise???
 

Your WB was not setup properly. A poorly tuned rest of any kind will cause vane damage. I did a backyard experiment with pictures of vanes shot from the same WB in tune...........and out of tune. The vanes damage was directly proportional to the degree the rest was out of tune.

I fletch all my own arrows and I shoot a lot..........the only time I have to change them is when I get bored with the colors............or when they are blood stained ;)