Wild Outdoors Yesterday
 

I watched Wild Outdoors last night and first of all let me say how dissappointed I was with Jay Gregory for trying to shoot that goat through the panel fence. What are the chances of getting a arrow through that and not only that but what ifhe would've barely touches the fence and deflects the arrow through the gut, VERY poor ethics as far as I'm concerned. Then the show this guy shooting this goat and the arrow barely hits the goat in the stomach and back leg and they say that the goat died within 100 yards. I played the shot back in slow motion and he couldn't have gotten more than half of the broadhead in the gut before it went into the back leg. There's NO way that that goat died that quickly. This has to be one of the worst show that I'veseen Jay do.

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gutshot,

email him. Tell him how you feel. Enough people do this and maybe the producers will learn.

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I didn't see it, but if a guy named gutshot says it wasa gutshot; that's good enough for me.HCH

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HA HA...I didn't see it but it sounds about right.

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I was thinking the same thing myself when I watched that.

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I agree, I saw it too, the gut shot goat,, was so far back, all the way to the back of the guts, and into the hind quarters,,, the guy said hit that one a little farther back than I would have liked... then it just went over the rise:eek:... the shot through the fence was bad too,,, dont know why he even tried it,, I usually like his stuff, but I havent been to pleased with his show lately.

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He sucks. We would all be better off if none of these yuppies had hunting shows. Everyone of them bring our passion into a bad light. When I hunt it is nothing like what is on tv. These yo yo's make shots at deer that shouldn't even be thought of. Then they start their fist pumping and about fall over from the "BIG ADRENLIN RUSH" practically doing the 5 knuckle shuffel in their tree stand. There are a couple of them that havn't forgot whats it is about but most are big sell outs.

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I saw that. I don't think the fence deal was that bad. He looked close to the fence, thus any contact would have resulted in a miss. Had it been close to the goat, no.

After that show I watched the PSE show and the guy took a 50 yard shot at a turkey. Yikes.

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I don't think the fence being close or far has much to do with the ethical issue. If it had been brush in the wayor a big whitetail buckwould it be different? I saw the shotand couldn't believe Jay would do that. He has preached ethical shots before. I hope it wasn't just because it was a goat.

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What MOTOWN said.:D:D

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Didnt see that one, but figures..

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I just posted the same thing about that show last week when I saw it. I couldn't believe they even aired it. I use to really like Jays shows but, it seems that the pressure of getting kills on film have really gotten to him. I still watch the Wild Outdoors but they aren't as good as they use to be.

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I think it's symptomatic of the pop culture of the past few generations. I saw an article in TBM bemoaning the exact same thing but I really am not suprised they act that way. Watch any major sporting event and the very same thing happens after every score. Fist pounding, hot dogging, chest beating, dancing, belly bumping,and all other antics goes on. I'm sometimes guilty myself and I'm just a spectator. I don't begrudge them a little exuberance, I just get tired of the more "trendy" methods of doing it:ie.Baseball's fist punching (tapping fists together) and trendy slogans(tm). These smack of fanboy-ism or a marketing attempt. (or maybe an ego stroke to see how many people pick up their trademark slogan?) But even older school guys can be guilty of this. (RR and his "Jimminy Christmas", I love his older shows but is he really that hyper?)

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I saw a show last week I can't remember which one it is. The guy, in a treestand shot a buck that was pointed almost directly towards him?
I kept thinking he was going to wait for him to turn or something to offer a shot but Noooooo, he just shot it, he says, along the neck and into the chest.
WTF? He even said he didn't like to take the shot. Well, why did you then ya Dip wad? ( I know, it's the $$)
I'm a pretty good shot and I would have never taken a shot like that.

I am seeing it more and more. Supposedly "Pro Hunters" taking very marginal shots. They should not be doing this.

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A bad shot is one thing, it happens, can happen to anyone, that is hunting, televise it...? No, prolly not but again, it's hunting....now deliberately taking a pathetic shot, that's another thing. Jay's not one of my favorites.

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I made the mistake of buying Whitetail Obsession 5 last year which stars Jay and Tammy Gregory and their little boy Wyatt. I hated the video.... There were some questionable shots in that video as well, and the sound quaility was non existant. Most of the video I couldn't understand what anyone was saying. I wrote an email to Drury Outdoors who produced the video in cooperation with the Gregories. I never heard back.

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i used to watch the show till a couple seasons ago i saw him hunting with his wife and she got too cold and when a nice buck came in she couldn`t draw her bow on him, well ol jay helped her draw her bow, then she missed the buck, just could have easily gut shot it...

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While I enjoy most hunting shows, at the same time I have a problem w/ them as well. This is one example of why I don't like them. We are at the mercy of editing and voiceovers. There are only 2 people that truely know how that went down, and all we can believe is what they tell us. In most cases, I just don't buy it.

Now, as far as it only going 100 yards, THAT I can believe. The femoral artery runs the length of both legs, and if you severe that rascal, the critter will bleed out VERY quickly.

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I saw the show and I can compare it to the "Bowhunter mag. TV." show with MR. James and Dwight Shue?(sp) that I saw last night. In the Bowhunter show, they were hunting elk, and I don't rememeber exactly how many shots they took, and aired, BUT they never connected on a single elk, about 5 or 6 shots were taken. Several of the shots were deflected by tree limbs. SO, which is worse, taking a shot that has a tree limb between you and the target, or taking a shot with a fence between you and the target?
I just love to read on here all the comments that the couch potato "quaterbacks" have to say, because I'm sure you're all SO much better at NOT taking questionable shots in the real world, OF COURSE, you don't have a camara over your shoulder, so no one will ever know YOUR truth!!
I ain't saying I'm perfect neither, BUT I've missed a shot or two do to deflections, JUST not on film!!
I do however agree, Jay sat himself up for failure by putting his blind obviously in the wrong spot!! Shooting through a barded wire fence is one thing, BUT to shoot through a mesh fence, no much room for error!!

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We're not trying to sell it to the public though, either. ;)

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I have seen bad shots from EVERY person out there. If bad shots are gonna keep you from watching hunting shows then you should just not watch them because they are ALL guilty of it at one time or another. I don't care if it is Fred Bear, Ted Nugent, Jay Gregory, Will Primos, Stan Potts, the Drury boys or any other TV hunter........they have all done it and will do it again. Just imagine if that is what they are willing to show you.......how bad must the stuff be they cut out??

I don't mind Jay........I did see a REALLY bad show of his where his wife missed a buck, dry fired her bow because she was over bowed and then couldn't even draw it again..........all in the same show!!!!.......and the buck she missed would have been dry fire #2 except he put her arrow back on the rest before she shot (she didn't know it fell off) YIKES. All in all from what I have seen of him he is not the worst out there. I think he tries to be good and that is more then I can say for a lot of others.

I don't really understand the attitude of "yuppies" not "deserving" to hunt. I never read in any hunting regulations book that you had to be born and raised in a one stop light, backwoods town to "deserve" to hunt a deer. As far as I am concerned if you hunt ethically, legally, and safely........you "deserve" to be out there just as much as anyone else. We should be encouraging some of these kids from the suburbs and cities to put down the Playstation and pick up a bow. In case no one noticed the hunting population is getting old and we NEED young kids to take an interest in what we do or 20 years from now people will be talking about when people "used" to hunt.

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Hold on a second here. So your saying that a panel fence that is right in front of your nose that you can plainly see and small branch in the woods that you don't see are one in the same? Get real buddy how in the heck can you make a comparison like that?

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Ya must of missed my last paragraph!! I didn't right a book, so go back and read it again, all the way through this time![:@]

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Howler: I can promise you that this "couch potato quarterback" would NEVER shoot at aanimal that that was standing on the other side of a panel fenceespecially after already having one arrow deflect off of a barbedwire strand and then show it on television.

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Exactly my point Thank you. I put a post on the Wild Outdoors forum but, either the sight is shut down or no one even looks at it.

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I didn't see this show but I will say that alot of shows I been seeing latly are a slap in the face of the sport. We all have made bad shots from the shakes or not seeing a small twig in the path. But as sportsman and bowhunters we only got to answer to ourselfs for making a very unethical shot but these people that air these shows on TV are putting out a bad image of the sport to everyone. If I have a serous brain fart in the woods only person that knows is me and I got to answer to that to myself not air it across the world for the anti's to use for ammo on inhuman treatment of animals. Just last week I think it was I saw a show from Hank I think it was shot a big buck and didn't find the deer for like 5 weeks later. That was a waste of the meat totally but he was still showing the rack at end of show like he did something great. These guys do need to get there heads out of there cracks and start showing the proper hunting eithics on taking the shot.

Trytan

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Can't you guys hit a 4" X 6" post card at 10 yards? I bet most of us that frequent this site can!! SO, if you can shoot good enough to hit the post card, WHY can't you shoot good enough to put your arrow through the post card and hit your target at 30 yards?
I remember a couple years ago when Jordan missed a KS. buck because of a barded wire deflection, and he was also rideculed here by many. SO, what that says is that most guys here can't hit a target that is about 10" in dia., or for that matter, get an arrow through a 10" hole to hit a target on the other side!
I'm stillcurious, what's the difference in shooting at a target and having a limb diflection compared to a wire deflection? Why should one be any differant than the other?
If we practice over, around, under obstacles, why is it un-ethical to take a shot of the like in the real world, as it often happens? If all the guys that have been seen on TV would have "made" the shots, would they still be under the knife?

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Howler, I think the main difference is that most limb deflections happen because the shooter doesn't see them. Maybe they are spot and stalk hunting or still hunting and have to shoot from unknown positions of maybe they just didn't see a small twig or realize it would be in the arrows path. A wire fence like that is very obvious and why you would set-up your blind 10 yards from it I don't know.

I think I could hit a postcard at 10 yards if that's what I was aiming at but if I'm aiming at a live target with my 30 yard pin I'm not so sure I could get it through.

I just saw their latest show last night and coincidentally it was a look back at Tammy's growing process bowhunting the past 4 years. They did make a valid point that she learned everything in front of the camera and made every mistake in front of a huge audience. I think maybe she deserves a little bit of slack as I'm sure not many can say that they weren't a bit imperfect when they first started bowhunting.

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I got your couch potato. We all have made poor shots. The last thing I would want to do is air ir on TV. I would never knowingly set up where my shot had to fo thru a damn fence.