Are some of you guys really that good at 50, 60 70 yds???
05-11-2006 | 05:47 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: Are some of you guys really that good at 50, 60 70 yds???
ORIGINAL: davidmil
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Just as a general statement, I'd say bowhunters as a group are far more prone to exagerating than even fisherman are. Mostly it's a macho thing. My experience is that the average bow hunter says his bow is set5 pounds heavier than it really is, and the actual setting is 5 pounds heavier than the fellow can properly handle. He also exagerates the draw length and the speed he is getting by at least 10% so do I think guys are as accurate as they say they are? Not even close... but of course I could be exagerating somewhat.
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How'd the old Budweiser commercial go? True, true...
Unless of course he's been taken care of by a reputable dealer. Most everyone I know shoots through a chrony and Len hasconverted their draw length to be right. I suspect most bowhunters are better than you think. They all want to know their speed, their K.E., and their draw length so they can buy the correct arrow. How else would you get the arrows near correct. I find most bowhunters to be tinkerers, anal retentive almost when it comes to the smallest thing .... and they're definitely as a whole the best hunters in the woods. I think the exaggerators are the exception, not the rule.
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Just as a general statement, I'd say bowhunters as a group are far more prone to exagerating than even fisherman are. Mostly it's a macho thing. My experience is that the average bow hunter says his bow is set5 pounds heavier than it really is, and the actual setting is 5 pounds heavier than the fellow can properly handle. He also exagerates the draw length and the speed he is getting by at least 10% so do I think guys are as accurate as they say they are? Not even close... but of course I could be exagerating somewhat.
[/blockquote]How'd the old Budweiser commercial go? True, true...
Unless of course he's been taken care of by a reputable dealer. Most everyone I know shoots through a chrony and Len hasconverted their draw length to be right. I suspect most bowhunters are better than you think. They all want to know their speed, their K.E., and their draw length so they can buy the correct arrow. How else would you get the arrows near correct. I find most bowhunters to be tinkerers, anal retentive almost when it comes to the smallest thing .... and they're definitely as a whole the best hunters in the woods. I think the exaggerators are the exception, not the rule.
05-11-2006 | 01:37 PM
#43
Giant Nontypical
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From: Jackson, Missouri
RE: Are some of you guys really that good at 50, 60 70 yds???
I don't think we as a community exaggerate when it comes to specs... but as to our abilities? Hmmm... I'd have to politely disagree with Davidmil on that one and agree with Sylvan -- especially after reading the "How big are your groups?" thread a few days back...
If we're not prone to a little good-natured exaggeration, I'd suggest the next Olympic committe cancel its next session of try-outs; they need look no further than here!
If we're not prone to a little good-natured exaggeration, I'd suggest the next Olympic committe cancel its next session of try-outs; they need look no further than here!
05-11-2006 | 02:44 PM
#44
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RE: Are some of you guys really that good at 50, 60 70 yds???
I personally, don't exagerate anything when it comes to hunting. I am an electrician by trade and a woodworker hobbiest. My personality (type A) dictates that I am precise. The GF calls me analytical. My number one passion is hunting for whitetails. That led me to become an archery fanatic. The GF, son and I shot competitive archery from 1993 to 2000. I shot for High Country during that time. I too have all the equiptment to tune and service bows. I chrono everything that we shoot. It is a great tuning tool. So... when someone asks me how many pounds, draw weight or how fast, I tell them exactly what I've got and what it'll do. I can't comprehend what exagerating would do to benifit me. Being a trophy hunter, I am usually within 1 to 3 inches of what a buck will score. Can you imagine, after telling your hunting buds about the 165 inch 12 point you're after, thenyou bring home a 118 inch 8 point? Good one! For the most part, when someone tells me what size buck they've seen, I take it with a grain of salt. To believe it I'd have to see the buck myself. I've really only gotthree friends whose scores I would trust. In almost all of these circumstances, the hunter was so excited about the buck they'd seen, that they were in such awe they couldn't count points or tally a score if they tried. This is a good thing, it's what hunting is all about. It is a known fact that excitement can cause antler size to increase every time the story is told! This kind of exageration can be tolerated because it wasn't intentional. Intentional exageration is no good. It causes one to lose their reliability trustworthyness. This is not worth it to me. Things are what they are, no need to lie about them.
05-12-2006 | 05:18 AM
#45
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From: West Winfield New York USA
RE: Are some of you guys really that good at 50, 60 70 yds???
I wonder if the guys that regularly shoot at deer over 40 yards, regularly wound deer. No doubt shooting at a target at 50, 60, or 70 yards is cool, but at a live animal, in my opinionits total disrespect for the animal.
05-12-2006 | 09:42 PM
#46
Typical Buck
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From: Illinois
RE: Are some of you guys really that good at 50, 60 70 yds???
I can hold a fair group at 50 yards. I shoot that distance just for fun though. I would never take game at that distance because my bow is sooo slow and my arrows are so long and heavy. I'm still dreaming of the day I will upgrade to an all new setup....thinking maybe 2 years from now!
05-14-2006 | 10:01 PM
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RE: Are some of you guys really that good at 50, 60 70 yds???
I am pretty good at 50 yds with nice groups in the kill. I don't shoot at that range often as I live in town and have to step out of my privacy fence t do so and don't really need the cops seeing me do this.
05-15-2006 | 01:05 AM
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From: Troutdale Oregon
RE: Are some of you guys really that good at 50, 60 70 yds???
Touchy subject here, most guys will say 20 to 30 yards. Because its a ethically sound statement. The truth is I have shot and killed elk out to 98 yards with a mathews feather max, a cougar faceing me at 50 yards several muley bucks out to 70 yards. Open country hunting is quite a bit different than small eastern hard woods. I practic to 100 yards . I have lost one animal since I have been bowhunting (25 years) a whitetail buck He was shot at 15 yards?? That said 80% of my kills are taken at or around 40 yards. Its my sweet spot I am deadly at 40 yards.
Now Last year I switched to a recurve to spice up the fun a bit. I wont shoot at a animal over 40 yards I can sink them into a paper plate back to 60 with it but I am not confident that the speed is where it needs to be.
Im sure this up set the ethics police but thats how it is. Most spot and stalk, open country hunters all shoot to these ranges at game Even thought they don't have the balls to admit it.