do most of you guys see the arrow in flight and see it strike the deer? i hunt with my dad, and he never sees the arrow after he shoots. I just shot my 6 deer with a bow yesterday, and i have seen the arrow hit every single time, so its real hard for me to give him any advice on how to watch it better. but also this weekend, he shot at a buck, hit it, staggered it to is front knees, and then it got up and ran off. the blood trail went for maybe 75 yards and stopped (we searched long and hard but couldnt find it). i always think it is useful to know where the deer was hit, but i dont know what to tell him to help him follow the arrow. any suggestions?

there was on product that someone showed me at the archery range once that i thought might help. there was a light that went on the knoc of the arrow, and then there was a magnet (or something like that) by the arrow rest and when the arrow was shot, the light assembly would pass by this magent and the knoc would light up. the guy said it looked like a laser going thru the air. any one know of a product like this and where i could find it??

thanks for any input...

Here's the link to the tracer nocks.

http://www.lightednocks.com/

In their one video, the pig starts turning before the arrow gets there. I'm curious as to whether the pig jumped the string because of bow noise, or seeing the arrow or seeing the nock? The animal's angle probably makes seeing the nock difficult.

I don't know, the price is not bad and I'm tempted to try them.

Anyone tried them?

Can he see well with both eyes? And does he shoot with both eyes open? Has he tried different colors of fletch or maybe cresting?

At least he's not peeking.

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thanks Dacotah - that exactly what i am looking for. maybe i will give that a shot.

he sees fine (with glasses). we have bought so many differnt arrows over the years that we have lots of different fletching colors and combinations. what is cresting?

For the life of me I can't remember what it's called but you can glue (lightly) marabou around the nock end of the arrow in colors such as Fl yellow. Looks like a ball of fur heading for the animal and very bright. It's light in weight, adds virtually no weight to the nock-end. Can get it cheap at any place that sells fly-tying stuff.

Solid yellow or white nocks and white, yellow, or red high profile fletching (with at least a fair amount of helical) is easiest to see.

Crowning refers to a color added to the last 9&quot; or so of an arrow. A bright crown contributes somewhat to seeing an arrow in flight (though little since it is travelling away from you). Cresting contributes less, if anything. Both contribute greatly to finding an arrow laying on or buried in the ground though, and really personalize your arrows.

You may want to check on the legality of electronic lighted nocks. In PA, at least, they are illegal.

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What my friend uses, for example, is a white vinyl wrap with 3 white feathers that are attached to the wrap. In his case, it makes for a whole lot of white, which seems to be popular in hunting videos.

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Edited by - Dacotah on 10/28/2002 08:44:51

Forgot to mention that cresting refers to banded lines painted around an arrow.

Here is my advice, and it may be somewhat different. First, it doesn't mateer to me what color my fletchings are, that is overrated IMO. I prefer white (I use four fletch arrows, so I use all one color) when there is no snow so I can see the color of blood easily. In the snow, I'll usually use a flourescent color along with the white, but that is to make arrow recovery easy, not to see the arrow in flight.

When I am shooting at game, I concentrate on the target only, I don't worry about seeing the arrow in flight, there is no need to at all. If you keep the concentration on the game, you will see the point of impact every time (except in low light conditions). Usually, I will not see the fletchings or the arrow, but will see the hair move where the point of impact is. The same is true when using a gun. If you concentrate on your target, after the shot you will see where you hit.

BobCo hit it on the head. One of the most common problems that archery instructors deal with is watching the arrow and not the spot on the target. Watching arrows causes improper follow thru (involuntary) on the shot. Pick a small spot on your animal and concentrate on that. You should see the arrow as it hits your spot. This practice will also improve your groups on the practice range. Good hunting!