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Biscuit vs open rests

Old 04-12-2006 | 07:44 AM
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Stinkbelly,
The first thing you need to do is paper tune your bow. The paper tear will tell you how to adjust the rest and or nock point ( as well as general bow setup ). Next make sure that the bisquit is installed perfectly square to the string, if its tilting that causes excess pressure and noise. Next refletch your arrow with Bohning Blazers and lastly if you don't now try using a string loop, I found this rest needs one.
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Old 04-12-2006 | 07:53 AM
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Thanks for the tips on R helicals guys. For the guy that sid his NAP quickspins didn't work if you ask NAP they'll tell you that they don't reccommend quickspins through a WB
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Old 04-12-2006 | 08:54 AM
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WB fanatics......have you tried shooting Quick Spins through that thing? I did.....lol. Experiment yourself.....and get back to me.
They are a downgrade from my 2" Blazers so no thanks.


I'm glad someone (well several have) else posted about the WB noise. Maybe Atlas won't think I'm the only person that's ever had a noise problem with a WB.
Arrows make noise when they are dragged across ANY rest......or shelf or whatever. The bristles of a WB are not gonna be any louder then a prong rest or your riser and prongs of a drop away. I've shot all of them and listened to countless other guys shoot them as well. My contention lies with your assertion that the noise on draw from a WB is a problem. It surely is not IMO and in fact is less then you will get from the majority of rests available.........especially in the WB price range. I have yet to see a single deer react to the sound of my bow being drawn. If you want to hang your hat on ONE single isolated case that you THINK a deer heard you vs the countless thousands of cases where no one else seems to have that problem then by all means feel free to do so.



I HAVE hunted, before. I am not a moron. I can hear.

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So HAS everyone else........Neither are they........They can too.
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Old 04-12-2006 | 09:06 AM
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I used to use a regular rest for years, then went to a drop away for a few years and now have been using a WB for the last3 years with no problems at all. Never noticed any difference in noise but then again I never did any scientific DB readings, Im basing my analasys off the deers reactions to every shot before using a WB and after I switched.I tell you one things its nice to know your arrow will be in place after drawing, while moving into position to make a shot.
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Old 04-12-2006 | 09:08 AM
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I used to use a regular rest for years, then went to a drop away for a few years and now have been using a WB for the last3 years with no problems at all. Never noticed any difference in noise but then again I never did any scientific DB readings, Im basing my analasys off the deers reactions to every shot before using a WB and after I switched.I tell you one things its nice to know your arrow will be in place after drawing, while moving into position to make a shot.

Amen.
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Old 04-12-2006 | 09:15 AM
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The W.B. rest is the best!
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Old 04-12-2006 | 09:21 AM
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Thanks for the tips on R helicals guys. For the guy that sid his NAP quickspins didn't work if you ask NAP they'll tell you that they don't reccommend quickspins through a WB
I wouldnt suggest quickspins for anything other that target shooting. I tested them when they first came out and found out they are loud and not very durable. They will also cause you to lose some energy causing your shaft to drop a little at longer ranges. The 3inc was better than the 4 inch. Id stick with regular vanes or better yet, blazers.
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Old 04-12-2006 | 10:52 AM
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I need help. I just bought a new bow (xt) and had the biscuit put on it. I didn't exactly like the way it was put on, so I remounted it. Well I have had the bow for 4 days and have shot it about 6 hours worth. My brand new vains look like they are years old. They are wrinkled up from end to end. Every vain is wrinkled. Also, I noticed the arrows themselves are getting scuffed up. So from previous posts it appears that my bow is out of tune and possibly badly out of tune. If it were out of tune, would all the vanes be damaged or only some of them? Can I tune it in with the wrinkled vains? If so, where do I start? I did see the arrows fishtailing the past two days, but there was a strong cross wind.

Additional info: Carbon arrows, 4 inch vanes, Large WB.

thanks for the help
Stinkbelly,

Try thisfirst......Set up the biscuit with a center shot (to the string), next make sure the biscuit itself is level (not tilted forward or back) set yournock at 90deg. and your tiller even. You can start your tuning process from there. I have found that the Whisker Biscuits I have set updid not need much more adjustment (if any) from this set up.The ones that did were mostly with adjusting the center shot. I haveyet to need to adjust the tiller or nock position.

If you are having trouble setting it up get to a good pro shop and have them set it up to the basic settings listed above and tune from there.

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Old 04-12-2006 | 11:03 AM
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Arrows make noise when they are dragged across ANY rest......or shelf or whatever. The bristles of a WB are not gonna be any louder then a prong rest or your riser and prongs of a drop away. I've shot all of them and listened to countless other guys shoot them as well. My contention lies with your assertion that the noise on draw from a WB is a problem. It surely is not IMO and in fact is less then you will get from the majority of rests available.........especially in the WB price range. I have yet to see a single deer react to the sound of my bow being drawn. If you want to hang your hat on ONE single isolated case that you THINK a deer heard you vs the countless thousands of cases where no one else seems to have that problem then by all means feel free to do so.
I will disagree with you, My Ultra rest, and some high quailty felt and my Carbon Express arrows with buff tuff are just silent. Zero Effect which I have on my hoyt is silent also. I havesome buddies who have put some felt on there WB andgot themsilent.

All depends on thepressure the deer have in the deer inyour area. I just laughed when I watch the "Hunting Shows"they pull back bow and you can hear the arrow noise as they pull back. Deer inNorthen MI runto the next county at odd noise. Now in on my farmI can get away with more noise, the deer are now as educated as they are in Northen MI.

Atlas in NY on public land has some pretty coached deer(I assume). His setup is very quiet. My buddy in Iowa can get away with a bit more noise then me on my farm. He has shot some pigs in Iowa, 202 '' and a 190 ''. He came up here to hunt with me, had a nice buck come in. He reached for his bow, deer look right up at him, then took off. He has never had a deer pick him off before. Deer in Iowa are not as educated as here in MI. Iowa 350,000 Hunters gun and bow. MI 350,000 bowhunters, 760,000 Gun hunters. NY is right up there with MI. I am not going to make ablanket statment about any rest for a hunter. It all depends on serval factors, which are all different for each of us. Some are the same, but we all have are personal prefernces.

My issue with the WB is plain and simple, I hate the way it looks. That is the only reasonI do not use it. If i hunted northen MI I would have to put some felt on it to get a little quiter. It is a great rest, just not for me.

I have installed WB on my dad's(only hunts our farm)bow, and it is my belief WB is the BEST rest foryouth hunters.
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Old 04-12-2006 | 01:33 PM
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I will disagree with you, My Ultra rest, and some high quailty felt and my Carbon Express arrows with buff tuff are just silent.
My response to that would be that your rest is not silent........the high quality felt and choice of arrows is.......that can be said about any rest. In that same frame of thought every drop way out there is louder then anything else.........because your arrow has to be dragged along the riser shelf before it gets picked up by the forks........without felt they are useless...........and in turn they are not quiet........the felt is. I don't have to add anything to my WB for it to be nice and quiet. Honestly, I don't get the noise complaints.........and I am a stickler for sound IMO.



All depends on thepressure the deer have in the deer inyour area.
I agree..........that is why I can't imagine deer being spooked by a WB. The deer I hunt in the state lands of WNY are under relentless pressure and will jump through the clouds if they hear a mouse fart 2 fields over. I haven't had a problem yet.



Atlas in NY on public land has some pretty coached deer(I assume). His setup is very quiet.
Yes..........and yes.


My buddy in Iowa can get away with a bit more noise then me on my farm. He has shot some pigs in Iowa, 202 '' and a 190 ''. He came up here to hunt with me, had a nice buck come in. He reached for his bow, deer look right up at him, then took off. He has never had a deer pick him off before. Deer in Iowa are not as educated as here in MI.
That is funny............I swear that the deer in NY have evolved to include scanning the trees as part of their natural habits now. I firmly believe they have been educated to hunters in stands and I commonly see deer looking up as often as they check the ground level around them. Once the leaves fall in NY it becomes very difficult to find a good spot in a climber where you don't stick out like a sore thumb........they will spot you even if you don't move...........I try to find areas I can hunt transition zones of pines to hardwoods late in the year to hopefully get the pines at my back and just hope they don't see me before I see them.

I imagine Michigan being pretty similar.

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