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manboy 04-10-2006 08:44 PM

RE: 0-30 yards+ 1 pin little to no drop?
 
i shoot 67# and get 82#k.e. and get 315 fps. thats just about right!:D

Kirch 04-12-2006 05:48 AM

RE: 0-30 yards+ 1 pin little to no drop?
 
now stupid question. What is the optimum arrow wt. per pound of bow weight. What is the minimum shaft weight for a 70 pound bow. Is there a balance between broad head and shaft weight??

Sylvan 04-12-2006 06:25 AM

RE: 0-30 yards+ 1 pin little to no drop?
 

now stupid question. What is the optimum arrow wt. per pound of bow weight.
It's definately not a stupid question! If only there was a simple answer. Problem is, many if not most properties in archery that you want to "optimize for" are trade offs. Arrow weight is a good example. As you go lighter and lighter you wil continue to increase speed but the cost is a less efficient bow, less kinetic energy and momentum, probablynoisier and you may shorten the life of the bow. As you go heavier and heavier the reverse is true. You will get as many opinions on what is optimum as you have archers so you have to decide on the happy medium for yourself. Personally, I like to error just a biton the heavy side. I wouldn't be comfortablewith either extreme. But hey, you can quite effectively kill deer at either end of the spectrum so I guess my advice is to learn as much as you can about the tradeoffs and make your own decision.


What is the minimum shaft weight for a 70 pound bow.
Generally the total arrow weight is considered to be 5 grains per pound minimum. So for 70#'s minimum total weight would be 350 grains. I should add that the 5 grains/pound is very much an opinion too. It wasn't all that long ago that the consensus was 6 grains/pound.


Is there a balance between broad head and shaft weight??
Yes and F.O.C. is a property that adresses it. Generally an F.O.C. of 10 to 15% is considered proper. FOC is the percentage the arrows center of gravity falls in front of the center of the shaft as determined by length.


Here is a good site if you'd likemore detail... http://homepage.ntlworld.com/joetapley/

Cougar Mag 04-12-2006 06:37 AM

RE: 0-30 yards+ 1 pin little to no drop?
 
I am keeping my mouth shut for now about the weight of hunting arrows....at least until it gets closer to deer hunting season;).

One pin can and will do for up to 30 yards just fine if that is what you want to do. Although for 3D I do have 4 pins on my bow, for hunting I can use one pin sighted dead on at 15 yards and use it fine for up to 30 yards. All I do is hold my 15 yard pin ever so slightly higher than a spot on the target. For 20 its a hair and I do mean a hair higher. For 30 yards just slightly higher. Its easier for some to do that than gap pins when hunting and I find it faster.

HoytShooter88 04-12-2006 10:05 AM

RE: 0-30 yards+ 1 pin little to no drop?
 
I am shooting 314 out of my Trkon and there is no way I can hold center on a 30 yard target and stay there. For me on weight of a hunting arrow I tend to stay right around 410-415. It has worked for me for many years so I have a hard time changing anything..

Kirch 04-12-2006 12:25 PM

RE: 0-30 yards+ 1 pin little to no drop?
 
guys, this has been a great post. THANKS. Last question for this post. What do you guys think my bow is shooting.... speed wise.

I have an 04 Bowtech mighty mite VFT 71.5# @ 29" draw. Shooting Goldtip 7595's w/ 100 grain tip. I put them on the scale and they're 390 grain. I have a peep, whisker bisquit and std. bowtech silencers, have a loop too..... think I covered everything.

Kirch 04-14-2006 09:44 AM

RE: 0-30 yards+ 1 pin little to no drop?
 
anyone what to comment on my last reply about speed??

ropedawg 04-19-2006 12:19 PM

RE: 0-30 yards+ 1 pin little to no drop?
 
bowtech tribute shoot through the chonograph @ 300 fps with a arrow that weigh 325 grains total. 63 lbs I have it set at with 28 inch draw.. must guys are getting to heavy arrow.. if you multiply 63 times 5 gives you will get 315 if you shoot a arrow that is 5 times the weigh you are pulling and you are over that you are fine and the closer you get to that number with going under you will get max performance and you can get up to 30 yards with no drop.. I shoot 0-30 with one pin!!!!

ropedawg 04-19-2006 12:22 PM

RE: 0-30 yards+ 1 pin little to no drop?
 
also i get 64 of kenectic energy which is a lot of force for a light arrow!!!

ropedawg 04-19-2006 12:24 PM

RE: 0-30 yards+ 1 pin little to no drop?
 
also i get 64 of kenectic energy which is a lot of force for a light arrow!!!


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