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He's been on theDonny Duesch show onMSNBC twice that
I've seen in the past month. Very interesting man,(Nuge, not douche)he articulates his POV very well on a broad range of subjects.I believe hewould be a great benefit to the state of Mich. as Gov. Unless your a tree hugging liberal weenie that is.
I'm not soldon the draft dodger rap either, haters will always paraphrase or use statements out of context for their own politicalgain.
Anyways, check the MSNBC show listings ,I'm sure he will be on again, very informative interviewand entertaining also.
My.02

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Ronald Reagan and arnold Schwarzenegger were actors. I am not compareing them to ted nugent but you never know.

I like the nuge. I don't know how well he would do in office. How can he be any worse in office than the dishonest money sucking politicians we have now? I will tell you one thing, he will not be kissing anyones a$$.

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he is supposed to be runnin for michigan governor..i'de vote for him if i lived their.

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charlie you have a valid question. ted nugent has formed the TNUSA TED NUGENT UNITED SPORTSMEN OF AMERICA, also he has the TED NUGENT CAMO FOR KIDS which teaches outdorsmanship and archery and conservationism to young children, he also is a ranking member of the NRA he gives dozens of speaches each year on hunting and gun ownership. he lobbies congress for our rights as hunters and gun owners. every show he is on such as the donnie douch show he intelligently defends gun ownership and hunting.even when faced with gloria alred on the bill mahr show he intelligently defended hunting in a dignified manner. yes he openly admitted to being an adulterer in his younger days but admits he never has done drugs. and for all his claims not one person has ever disputed that. so do you want a person in office who admits they smoked dope and who later was an adulterer such as bill clinton. or a man who liked sex as a young man. adultery is wrong. he admits he was wrong and does not condone or commit any imoral acts. he openly praises God and thanks God for each animal he takes and before any meal you see him consume. thats what scares people he is honest. he tells it how it is no matter what. to think we have people on this sight who quote anti hunting animal rights activists just to put a stain on a fellow hunter just because he is a bit out there. we may not agree with all teds antics but do some back ground studies on your own i challenge you find substantiated proof of any wrong doings other than ones he has admitted too and place them for scruteny and lets see what happens. but they need be substantiated by a reputable source not PETA or any other clearly prejudiced media source. i hope i shed a little light on ted for you charlie p.

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What was it called originally, now it appears to be nothing but a self promotion platform.

as far as I'm aware he spoke in front of Congress once.


What about the child he had while married to Shemane? That wasn't in his younger days. He never even went to see the kid payed the mother child support that a person making $20,000 a year would pay. The man has had two marriges break up because he couldn't keep his vows and has a child with another women while married to shemane. How old was his second wife15 or 16, makes me believe him when he stated no girl scouts are safe around him. Maybe he is of the same fiber of many of our current politicians.I know he was voted father of the year by his other son's school.

As far as you know he still sleeping around.He has committed many immoral acts.


I actually liked Ted about 15 years ago, then I started visting his site where he can't make a point with out vulgarities.Where anyone that questions him is lableda troll or an anti and quickly banned.

I've talked with people that started the org with him that he totally screwed over.

Saw that his idea of hunting was shooting tame animals with their head stuck in a corn pile read many of the ignnt things he has said in public etc and formed a different opinion of him.

Sorry I don't need yo do a little back round on him I've been keeping an eye on him for about 15 years now.
I'm supposed to be impressed by that for what reason?

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i stand on what i said and i understand and respect your points.the child as far as i know has never been proven to be his in a court of law(correct me if i am wrong). you make good points i do not agree with his common use of vulgarities. he has spoke before congress which is more than most other pro hunting and pro gun celebrities have done. one time is better than none. name any other hunting industry person who has done that. your stand is well understood your reasoning is valid . i have no problem with it because you are able to back your claims as usual. thanks charlie for your veiws i apreciate them as i always do. i dont agree but we dont have to.

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I'll ask once more, can anyone provide a source for the draft dodging article. So far we have a link from the Animal Liberation Front and it was in a magazine in the 70's and everyone was talking about it. I can't come up with anything on Google. IMHO, as many liberals as there are out there that hate Ted, I would guess we would see this plastered all over the press if true. Someone would call him on it and to my knowledge he's only been called on it on hunting boards with no sources. I guess we'll find out when he runs for governor of MI, it will come out then if true. I understand if you don't like the guy, he's controversial, but if you are going to fling that kind of dirt at someone you should be prepared to back it up.

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Ted Nugent is the man, I would vote for him just because hes cool. hahaI think it would be fun just see how many people he would piss off when he got into office.

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It was originally published in Cream magazine. Their archives are not on the internet and I don't believe they still publish.

I know of the article because of discussions on the Bowsite.com. There used to be quite a few people that posted there that knew Ted personally.

That isn't why I formed my opinion of Ted. just found another link to the story.

If you go to Teds site and post a question about it the thread will proably last under five minutes. Same with any question about thechild support.

Proably will.

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Minnesota elected a professional wrestler into office, I dont see why Michigan couldnt elect Ted. I think overall he is good for our sport. Asfor him being an adulterer and a draft dodger, sounds likes he meets the pre-qualifications for politicical office, with that kind of stuff on his resume he should be a clear choice for president. I say vote him in if nothing else it would be entertaining!!!!!

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I agree with Charlie P.

I have read all the music magazines and being a fellow guitar player, I admire Ted Nugent and what he does for the hunting community. But there is a lot of stuff out there that slams him to the wall. Let's just say ...skeletons in the closet. :eek:

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i will put all these questions straight to ted himself . i have his e-mail address and we have talked in the past . he is always courtious and always answers. we will see what he says. it seems funny that the magazine that was suposed to prove ted a draft dodger doesnt exist any more nor do any archives that are accessable by everyone. i agree if this truely existed and it was true. the many anti ted anti hunting idiots would have spread it on like butter on a bisquit.seems odd we only hear about it on the hunting boards. we were just told that it circulated on another board before this one. sounds like sabotage. unproven stories started by people who clearly have separate agendas other than the preservation of our way of life.and whats worse we good people who here this crap take it and run . we turn it into a monster and we cause more distortion among our already shakey ranks. like him or not ted is ted. if you dont like him and live in michigan use your right to vote and vote your conciance.

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Go to the bowsite and start a thread about it.


LOl, I was on the grassy knoll too.

Who are you referring to with that statement ,Gonzo?

You do that I'm sure he will be totally truthful.

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Thanks Charlie P, I work in a University system so I'll see what I can come up with. There may be archives here, they may even have the magazine.

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In politics, as in Life, it is offen a coice of the lesser of two evils...

Stack Ted Nugent up against any politician, past or present, and He's still a fair choice, depending on the issues.

As far as I know the only man to walk this earth without skeletons in his closet was 2000 odd years ago.

Show me a perfect man(or woman) and I'll show you a liar.

If I were in Michigan, he'd get a seriousconsideration from my camp.

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IMO Ol' Uncle Ted does as much harm to hunting as he does good with his Whackem' and Stackem' Killem' and Grillem' talk. I watched him the other night sneak towithin 20 yards of a bedded monster buck in wide open woods and the buck never detected him or the cameraman[:@]. Now there's know way that anyone on this sight or anywhere else willconvince me that the buck wasn't tame. After watching his show I don't have much need for the man. I sure would not mant him in charge of my states checkbook.

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i remember a couple years ago i won an archery contest and i got to meet Ted and he was a cool guy and gave me lots of advice and encuraged me to continue hunting and we had a good talk about youth hunting. He later gave me an autographed picture of himwith a huge whitetail and i thought that was pretty cool. I will never forgetthe day.

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There is no doubt the Nuge is a cool guy. I admire what he has done for our sport, and for the way he has promoted hunting for kids. The fact that he is "off the wall" only makes me like him that much more. However, as far as politics goes, I think he would do the hunting community a greater service as an advocate rather than as a politician. As governor, he would have to be involved in causes other than hunting. And I don't think that he is qualified (nor are many "politicians).As far as his personal life...it should be just that...personal! The draft dodging aspect (if there is even anything to it) only becomes an issue because of his conservatism. I hope the draft dodging stories aren't true, because if they are it will lessen his credibility and give the PETA idiots something to crow about.

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I totally agree. Lets bring in all the facts on the table for every public official out there hiding from their skeletons in their closet-Kennedys, Clintons, Bush 2.0, fmr. gov. Gray Davis, so on and so on. From Jesse Ventura to Ronald Reagan, I believe we have seen more devoted political outputs from those individuals that had the spotlight before their poltical roundups than the groomed politcians of today.

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Lefty26,
Jesse Ventura was a former Navy SEAL (an officer), and had a Master's Degree. SEALs are not only selected for their courage and fighting ability, but also for their ability to make life-or-death decisions under fire.Now, for the record, I like Ted Nugent. I thinks he's an incredible guitarist, an experienced outdoorsman and hunter, and probably a fine human being. But to compare a highly educated, formerNavy SEAL to a middle-aged rocker...well...

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I do not doubt Jesse Ventura is a very intelligent man and a brave soldier, but I doubt those things got him elected into office. His name and his star power were probably the greatest contributing factor to being elected. My point was that Nugent would have the same chances of getting elected based on his name and star power. Politics is basically alarge popularity contest, many times your nameand public speaking abilityalone can get you elected to office. I used Ventura as an example of this, but the same can be said for a lot ofpoliticians that were famous before getting elected to office.

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Well, Richard Petty made a bid for Governor of North Carolina when I first moved here, and it went nowhere, even after his much-publicized "bumping" of some "roadhog" on the highway, which endeared him to anyonewho hasever gotten behind one (including this former Upstate New Yorker)! If the King (with his 200 NASCARwins)couldn't get in office in NC, then apparently you need more than star power!
Of course Jesse did have that feather boa...!

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i did not know that yankee and where were you from before you moved to nc i have never met a nc yankee

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i remember seeing him interviewed on one of those political shows a month or so ago, don't remember the details of what they were discussing as far as what he was running for.

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dont even want in on the gripes.... but id have to know more on his policies , then i could totally seal it!

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I am in the middle of his book "God,Guns and Rock and Roll" I think it is great I would vote for him for sure. Send him my way to NY.

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New York...I bet he'd have a riot antagonizing Hillary!

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I think it may be within the NRA.

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Actually your wrong it, Jesse didn't get much attention until

This was his platform:

Ventura ran as someone who was not a career politician, who spoke the language of working folks and would say whatever was on his mind. A vote for Jesse was a poke in the eye and a chair over the head of the establishment while the referee wasn't looking.

Ventura's positions may be described as fiscally conservative and socially liberal with a libertarian streak. He's pro-choice on abortion and supports domestic partnership benefits for gay couples. He's open to the legalization of drugs and prostitution. But he's no progressive. He attacks "big government," and calls for unspecified tax cuts to refund all budget surplus to the taxpayers. He claims that class sizes can be reduced without providing any additional money to schools through "more efficient use of funds." His popularity among college students came despite his opposition to state aid for college students (he says they should work their way through college). He also opposes state subsidies for day care and "socialized medicine."