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You need to hang up hunting and stay out the woods for good. It's obviously not your cup of tea!!!!

I hear golf is fun. Maybe you shold try that.

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buckmarlin

Bravo! Very glad to hear from you. I was really beginning to worry that all the skilled and ethical hunters were gone forever. Not to mention the astute and non-gullible.

Sometimes the best advice is best said bluntly.

Edited by - c903 on 10/22/2002 12:27:56

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I just hope jolly was aware of what was behind his target, had that arrow missed. The odds were against him making that shot. That is a mistake many hunters make each year and results in many hunting accidents. The good thing was that he learned from his mistake and hopefully can show more control in future hunting situations. Bowhunting is 95% learning and 5% killing. If you're not constantly learning new things than you're not really bowhunting. Keep up the hunt jolly. Don't abandon the Spirit of the Wild.

There's nothing I love more than beards and bucks!

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<font color=red>&quot;Anyone that knows how to read a post-shot arrow would known that examining the arrow would have indicated that no major entrance into the deer’s body had occurred.&quot;</font id=red>

Sure, how's this sound: &quot;Hey deer! Could you please stand there for a while why we search around, find the arrow, and decide how bad you're hit?&quot;

<font color=red>&quot;Coupled with the apparent not-injured actions of the deer...&quot;</font id=red>

You've never seen a poorly, yet mortally hit deer (gut, liver, etc.) run for a short distance, stop, and stand there like nothing's wrong? Sorry, seen it twice, and I'll try my best to get another arrow in a deer if I ever see it happen again.

<font color=red>&quot;Instead, they totally ignored the proper thing to do...&quot;</font id=red>

In YOUR opinion. Thankfully, it's not an opinion much shared thus far in this thread.

<font color=red>&quot;Would he go into auto pilot if he sees a rustle in the brush or a moving figure in low light, but cannot discern the target?&quot;</font id=red>

So, taking a low-percentage follow-up shot on a deer that he trully believes is wounded AND THAT HE CAN CLEARLY SEE, equates to &quot;ghost shooting&quot; at moving brush? Nice stretch. Not only won't that dog hunt, he won't even lift his leg to pee.

<font color=red>&quot;I don’t buy any of his story beyond his incredibly lucky shot. He got excited and shot an arrow into the air, where it landed he did not care.&quot;</font id=red>

So...he's a liar, and you're a mind-reader? Glad I didn't pay $5.99 a minute for your analysis.

JRW

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c903,

Good job deciphering the story. Now did you not understand the part where I said I would not be hunting again for quite awhile? I won't use the term never because I am a realist and know that things happen that change a persons feelings. But I think you can stop piling on now because I GET IT! I read your first post and didn't respond because I felt I probably deserved some criticisms. Then I saw your second post and realized it wasn't criticism as much as it is open hostility, after your third post I came to the conclusion that you are trying to drum up a following to accomplish WHAT? What I have said I was going to do?

But now that you have fired off the first salvo I shall return the volley and then go away.

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote<font size=1 face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Anyone that knows how to read a post-shot arrow would known that examining the arrow would have indicated that no major entrance into the deer’s body had occurred. Coupled with the apparent not-injured actions of the deer, “Jolly” and his friend, if skilled, or if they cared, should have been able to determine that the deer was not severely wounded and would live. If the arrow revealed a severe wounding hit, then wait and track the deer
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Yes, you are correct. But reading a post shot arrow that is 45 yards away in an alfalfa field while the deer is looking back at the same spot is not and was not a possibility.

I understand that you feel this was a &quot;Hail Mary&quot; shot and after reading the first post I can see where you may get that, but it wasn't.

But why quote some of the things I have written? You quoted me saying you could see the deer just inside the woods and then ask at 110 yards? like it is some unbeleivable feat!? Haven't you ever been able to see a deer at 3:30 in the afternoon standing off afields edge just inside the woods? I didn't think this was an amazing feat. So why quote it? For what reason? Then you quoted my original thoughts from when I shot, to the effect: &quot;I knew the shot would be close, it was 110 paces, and it is a shot that can be made&quot; and used them to illustrate me as a braggert. I am sorry you feel that way and hope others would not feel that way and look at it as an illustration of someone who did something extremely irresponsible and is trying to stress that point in hopes others won't make the same mistake.

You also question why I felt the need to shoot again if the shot looked to miss the vitals? Simple enough, when I hunted if someone shot an animal and it didn't appear to hit vitals or be a mortal shot we would all as a party search and exhaust every method possible to recover an animal before giving up the search. I have been in on unsuccessful game recoveries and I myself lost a buck several years ago that we trailed onto a neighbors land before losing it. That same buck was found about three days later in the other neighbors cornfield dead. It had travelled a LONG ways! I never just QUIT because oh well, it wasn't a vital hit(not saying you do, just wondering why you question my motivation).

I'm going now, and yes there is always golf<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

I won't lie and say I may never hunt again (that was emotions), but I will probably just stick to small game and targets for quite awhile. So please let it go c903, I'm not fighting you I've thrown in the towel and was hoping maybe someone on here would read this post and hopefully learn from it. You do realize that not everything has to be confrontational on this board, don't you? Go over to the Politics Board for that and look up Swampmonster<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>. That's what I do when I want to get in a good bitch match.

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c903 and buckmarlin I would assume that it must be difficult hunting with the halo over your head and your wings getting in the way. Unless you are Christ or a liar there is no way either of you can say &quot;I never screwed up&quot;.

Both of you need to jump off your high horse and realize that someone made a mistake, they admitted the mistake and regret it. Somehow I have a very strong feeling that egotist will never admit to a mistake, but instead will take every opportunity to jump in someones case who has!

I would assume that if you two had been present when Christ asked the crowd that &quot;he who is without sin cast the first stone&quot; you would have started chucking stones!

The Tazman aka Martin Price
Founder and President of
Virginia Disabled Outdoorsmen Club

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It took a full page of replys (minus 1)before someone was willing to go the other way on this topic! <img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>

I can't imagine doing what you did JR especially without at least confirming this was a wounded animal. <img src=icon_smile_dissapprove.gif border=0 align=middle> <img src=icon_smile_dissapprove.gif border=0 align=middle> Sorry, but I can't sympathize. Just hope you learned. But then,...you had time and a second opinion beside you before the shot to reconsider and you didn't, so I wouldn't bet on it.

Now keep in mind that this is coming from someone who would gut shoot a coyote if it was my only shot,...which krisken doesn't understand. So I'm not suprised that he/she would welcome you share their fire!

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...........actually, after thinking about this for a minute it seems like these stories are becoming all to common on the MB these days. The detailed horror stories from my fellow whitetail hunters. Whats up with that guys???

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Keep this one fact in mind as I address some complaints about me and my attitude and position on this issue.

”The anti’s and the general population of non-hunters do not judge us hunters individually; they judge us as a group. In their way of thinking, what one of us does, we all do.”

Therefore, when a hunter, especially a bowhunter, does or says something that reflects bad upon me and other hunters like me, I will be down his/her neck faster than a drink of water. Not because I want a personal confrontation, but to defend my and other’s reputation that he/she just tarnished. As long as hunting.net allows such posts to be made, and they should if they believe in the freedom of speech, then I have the right to have my say.

jrw

So, you do not take the time to find your arrow that you fully believe hit a deer before you blow off another shot?

Yes, I have had mortally wounded deer go back to eating and drop dead while doing so. I said “coupled” with all evidence. It is called “totality of circumstances”

To do the proper thing is only my opinion???? I do not think so.

Jolly explained that he lost control of his actions while in “auto pilot.” That he wrongfully reacted to an action. Can you compute that lack of control to list other possible loss of control reactions.

Yes, Jolly is a fabricator.

Jolly

Sorry, you did not say that each person was restricted to only 1 negative reply. However, I was readdressing other comments. I was not repeating myself to you. However, my posts were for a twofold purpose. One purpose was to address other replies to your story. The other purpose was to confirm what I believed.

I knew what your true purpose was for your confession, filled with self flagellation. It was not to confess wrong doing. It was to brag about a bull**** lucky shot that you believe you made with skill. Like I said, you had to throw some cover scent on the story because you knew you would get eaten alive by the REAL hunters.

I knew you were in the brush. I simply rattled your butt in. If you truly believed you had done wrong, and was truly sobby-sobby and sorry about your actions, you would either not reappear or you would, but not try to defend what you originally said you did wrong.

You originally said <BLOCKQUOTE id=quote<font size=1 face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>....I am at confessional and rightfully deserve ALL of the criticism's I am about to endure.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' size=2 id=quote> Now you want to reduce the amount of criticism to, some.

I did not mean that you could not see a deer at 110 paces, I was referring to you taking a “Hail Mary” shot at that distance. If you did not realize that the shot was a “Hail Mary’, why the title of your thread, why all the self-beating, why the false proclamation that you were hanging your bow up?

You say you posted your story in hope that others would learn by your mistake. Yet, you now strongly defend your actions. I was hoping that I had you pegged wrong, and that, generally, you and your friend were somewhat skilled and somewhat ethical. It now appears I had a “Hail Mary” hope.

Luckily for us real hunters, the deer fell and you recovered it. What great ammo and propaganda it would be for the anti’s to have observed a deer grazing with an arrow protruding from its skull.

The bottom line is, you are not a true bowhunter. Sadly, but seemingly more common, you are simply a guy with a bow out to stick what ever you can stick in any manner you can. Get out of the field, you do not belong there.

You may fool some of the people some of the time, but................ Well, you know the rest.






Edited by - c903 on 10/22/2002 17:33:24

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Wow, I hope his isn't going down the line of another High Country bash-fest.