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Old 02-11-2006 | 11:25 PM
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Is the above FOC go good with the set up I described?
Assuming you've got the bow tuned up and your arrows are shooting where you aim them, yes. Definitely.
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Old 02-12-2006 | 07:35 AM
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For shooting field points ina 3-D set up, a FOC between 8% and 9% works great for most shooters. Don't go lower than 7% though becauseanything lowercan and will cause arrow flight problems. With mostbroadheads you will want a FOC of at least10% for good flight. When using biggercut on contact (elk hunting)typebroadheads a FOC of 12% is even better yet. Most arrow companys recomend a FOC beno lower than7 or 8%and not over 15%.As already mentioned, depending upon what you are using the arrow for will determine that proper FOC. Here is a bit of info about FOC taken from hunters friend. I am posting the link as well because they have a lot of usefull info that could help archers out.

http://www.huntersfriend.com/arrowhelp/arrow-selection-4.htm




Front of Center Balance:

If you've ever played a friendly game of darts, you've surely noticed that the dart is designed so that it's heavy in the front, and light in the back. If the dart were weighted the opposite way, with the tail being heavier than the tip, it would literally spin around and hit the target tail-first. Obviously the ballistics of a dart and an arrow are a bit different, but the underlying concept is similar. A projectile's flight is most stable when most of the projectile's mass is positioned Front of Center (FOC). As such, an arrow should be heavier in the front than in the back. But how much? Where's the "perfect" balance point?

This is another hotly debated issue among archery enthusiasts. Some claim that FOC makes little or no difference, others swear that FOC has a profound effect on accuracy. Even the industry experts don't seem to agree, as the ballistic physics for FOC include some rather elastic variables that make finding an "mathematically optimal" FOC very difficult to declare and prove. To make matters worse, we even see a variation in how FOC itself is calculated, depending upon which "expert" you ask. So while we have no interest in the fine points of the debate, we will agree that the tricky issue of FOC is at least worth considering when purchasing a new set of arrows.

With all that said, it is generally believed that an arrow with a high FOC will fly well, but with premature loss of trajectory (nose-diving). While an arrow with a low FOC will hold it's trajectory better, but it will fly erratically. So again, another trade-off for you to consider.

While there doesn't seem to be a magic number to aim for, it is generally agreed that the optimal FOC balance for an arrow is somewhere between 7% and 15%. In the example on the left, the 30" long arrow has balance point that is 3" forward of the arrow's actual center (15"). So it's FOC is 3/30 or 10% - a reasonable FOC balance.

So when you order your custom arrows, keep FOC in mind. If you choose heavy 5" vanes and an anorexic 50 grain tip, you'll likely have an FOC that is too low. On the other hand, if you choose 3" lightweight feathers and a jumbo 175 grain tip, you'll likely have too much FOC. Choose an arrow setup that will give you an FOC balance of roughly 7-15%.


FOC Calculators:

To find the approximate FOC balance of your finished arrow, simply balance your arrow on some kind of fulcrum such that the arrow sits on it's own without tipping forward or backward. Mark this position on the arrow where it balances perfectly. Then measure the entire arrow (from the crotch of the nock to the end of the point), divide the arrow length by 2, and make a mark that indicates the exact center of the arrow. Now just measure the distance between your marks. If you divide the distance between the marks by the total arrow length, then multiply the result by 100, you'll have a reasonable estimate of your arrow's FOC percentage.

There are also a number of FOC calculators available online. Here is a sample of one FOC calculator, a simple program to help you predict the FOC balance of your custom arrows. This particular calculator uses 2003 Gold Tip specifications, but the concept is the same regardless of which brand of arrow you ultimately choose. We suggest you take a little time to experiment with the calculator, and learn how each variable affects FOC balance.
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Old 02-12-2006 | 01:00 PM
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I think speed has an impact on accuracy with FOC also. Last week I was shooting my .300 spine 100 grain tip arrows at around 260-265 fps with a 6.5% FOC. I ended up getting 3 inch groups at 60 yards with my hunting arrows (70# bow backed down half way). Went back out with 70# bow maxed out after getting correct pivots installed and my bow was now shooting these same arrows at 285 fps with 6.5% FOC. After two hours of getting frustrating 5-6 inch groups at 60 yards, I finally woke up and decided to throw on my 125 grain tips to see what would happen. Immediately I got my 3 inch groups back at 60 yards with a new arrow weight of 468 grains at 278 fps with a FOC of 8.5%. Proves a couple of things to me…my bow likes a slightly softer spine arrow (which was gained by removing my 100 grain tips and installing the 125 grain tips), and/or my arrows needed a little more FOC at speeds over 265 fps. Note: The above groups were with field tips and mechanicals.
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Old 02-12-2006 | 01:22 PM
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When you say groups are you talking three arrows?
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Old 02-12-2006 | 03:36 PM
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When you say groups are you talking three arrows?
You can use 3 arrow groups if you like, but I have a habit of using 5 arrow shot groups from my rifle reloading days. I could never put all 12 in a 3 inch group at 60 yards. Keep in mind for this kind of testing I'm using the hand picked 6 from the dozen (if there is such a thing with these arrows). Some of the groups are a little less than 3 inches and some arejust over3 incheswhen measured from center shaft to center shaft. I just call it anaverage 3 inch group for the day.

Did you get your bow dialed in yet? How do you like it?
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Old 02-12-2006 | 04:29 PM
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I have never had a more accurate bow in my life!Very Very Forgiving!
Quiet and accurate.Not a speed demon but 264 is plenty.
Have not shot over 40 yrd at my house dont have enogh room.
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