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Possible link to CWD prions in deer muscle
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn8638
The infectious prions that cause Chronic Wasting Disease, an infection similar to BSE that afflicts North American deer and elk have been found in the parts of the animals that people eat. No one knows if CWD can jump to humans, but if it does hunters in affected areas might be at risk. CWD was first diagnosed as a spongiform encephalopathy in captive deer and elk in Colorado in the 1970s, and in wild deer and elk in the region in the 1980s. But in the 1990s it spread widely within the elk farming industry, jumped to wild deer, and now affects two provinces of Canada and 13 US states. Like the related sheep disease scrapie – though unlike BSE – CWD spreads from animal to animal, says Glenn Telling of the University of Kentucky at Lexington, US. Deer housed with infected animals, or fed infected brain experimentally, contract the disease. Because of this there are fears that the CWD prion might be distributed widely in the deer’s tissues – as scrapie is in sheep. Efforts to find the infectious prion in the muscle of infected animals, by seeing whether antibodies to the prion could find any and bind on, have previously failed. But Telling’s lab has now shown that diseased prions can reside in muscle of deer infected with CWD, by using transgenic mice. Transgenic mice The team replaced the gene for the normal mouse version of the prion protein with the normal gene from deer, so the mice made the normal, healthy deer protein. They then injected the mouse brains with tissue from infected deer. Twelve to 18 months later, the mice developed encephalopathy. Tissues from both the infected deers' brains and thigh muscle caused disease. Muscle took slightly longer to cause disease than brain tissue, showing it had slightly less prion. “We don’t know that it is transmitted in the wild by animals eating muscle from infected animals,” cautions Telling. “We now have to see where else the prion might be,” including saliva and even excrement, using more transgenic mice. Brain warnings “Because we tested deer that were already ill,” he told New Scientist, “we don’t know what the distribution of prion is in animals that are still incubating the disease.” Hunters have been warned by wildlife agencies not to kill and eat obviously ill animals, but an animal not yet showing signs of the disease might still carry the abnormal prion, albeit less of it. It is also unknown whether people can catch encephalopathy by eating CWD-infected meat, as they can from eating BSE-tainted meat. Anecdotal reports that hunters develop the human prion disease CJD in unusual numbers have never been confirmed. State officials have issued warnings to hunters not to eat brain or spinal cord – the tissues most affected. “If I were a hunter I would be cautious about eating deer in areas affected,” says Telling. But he notes that not much testing of wildlife has been done, and it is not clear how prevalent the infection is. Journal reference: Science (DOI: 10.1126/science.1122864) |
RE: Possible link to CWD prions in deer muscle
thats crazy stuff
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RE: Possible link to CWD prions in deer muscle
If it's anything like BSE it will be bad news for sure , many states already restrict and/or ban what parts of the deer you can bring home from a known CWD state , not to mention the risk of eating the meat . [&o]
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RE: Possible link to CWD prions in deer muscle
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RE: Possible link to CWD prions in deer muscle
No one cares about this???
Really?? It only says that the infective prions of CWD may be in the muscle tissue of an infected animal. Considering that they have never thought this to be true.........and those mucles are what we are cutting up on our dinner plates I would think that more people would have found this topic worth discussion........especially in light of CWD popping up in more places every year.......Kansas being the latest victim. |
RE: Possible link to CWD prions in deer muscle
ORIGINAL: atlasman No one cares about this??? Really?? It only says that the infective prions of CWD may be in the muscle tissue of an infected animal. Considering that they have never thought this to be true.........and those mucles are what we are cutting up on our dinner plates I would think that more people would have found this topic worth discussion........especially in light of CWD popping up in more places every year.......Kansas being the latest victim. I also heard the prions of CWD are most concentrated in the muscles of infant baby deer just out of their spots....[:-]:D |
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I guess my thoughts are this, since the percentage of animals, even in this state where it has been for several years now and has now been found in a moose, that are found to carry the disease, and then figure in the percentage of possiblity of us catching the disease from eating the meat, I'll take my chances. I'm not going to loose any sleep over it. My chances of being killed in a car wreckare much greater, yet I still drive daily!
I do beleive that more study is needed, but for now, I don't beleive it is an end all disease that some beleive it to be! |
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ORIGINAL: wolfen68 I care more now than I ever did before being that my home state is the "latest victim"....you never think it's going to happen to you. It's a real shame that people need something to "happen to them" before they care about it. |
RE: Possible link to CWD prions in deer muscle
ORIGINAL: atlasman ORIGINAL: wolfen68 I care more now than I ever did before being that my home state is the "latest victim"....you never think it's going to happen to you. It's a real shame that people need something to "happen to them" before they care about it. |
RE: Possible link to CWD prions in deer muscle
I care but I also don't like to jump to any conclusions based on a study they reported few details on. Here is my response to a similar post on the deer hunting forum regarding this article:
I'd agree that CWD is not going away anytime soon and I'm sure it will eventually make its way into the Minnesota herd. I think taking swift action like they've done in Wisconsin with eradication hunts is about the only solution that will show results. I guess its a matter of probably never being able to erase it totally, but manage it the best you can to hopefully miniscule levels. I don't know much about the New Scientist publication. Checked out their web site and seems like they like to take a sensational angle with many of their articles - as do many publications these days. But they did report the testing was done on mice and not people and sometimes those tests are apples to oranges given the amount of the drug or disease the mouse is exposed to. They also mentioned that the muscle tissue given to the mice was only from sick animals, not animals who were simply incubating the disease. So they have not yet determined if that makes a difference. It will be interesting to see how organizations and other publications who are keeping close tabs on CWD will respond to this new report. One -theChronicWasting Alliance - has a lot of good practical information on its site. I definitely think CWD is a serious matter but I think we need to review new information like that in the New Scientist carefully and keep our heads about us before jumping to any conclusions. They haven't really proved bird flu can jump from human to human yet but that's all the news media clamored over for weeks/months. I'd rather be safe than sorry and not find out after the fact that muscle tissue can indeed transfer CWD to humans, but I also don't want to spread fear before more conclusive evidence is reported on. Case in point - one of our local news channels did an investigative report during sweeps week two years ago claiming a local man died of a brain disease he got from eating CWD infected deer at a Wisconsin game feed. They had his widow on the news crying. Turns out afterward, they belive the disease was the result of something else and the news channel had to correct itself. But that didn't matter, the damage had already been done. |
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