Drawlenght vs Speed
01-16-2006 | 01:49 PM
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RE: Drawlenght vs Speed
What ever you do, do not decrease your accuracy for the sake of speed by increasing your draw length. The 2" difference in draw lengthyou describe, will not make a noticable difference in how easy the arrow completely passes through a deer, they both will very easily.
01-16-2006 | 02:13 PM
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RE: Drawlenght vs Speed
MAN - some of you guys are DEEEEEEEEEP!
I have to chuckle a little bit here because I thought I was starting to understand some of the inner workings of things.....but I just read that and felt like an idiot in about 3 seconds.
*WOOF!
I have to chuckle a little bit here because I thought I was starting to understand some of the inner workings of things.....but I just read that and felt like an idiot in about 3 seconds.
*WOOF!
01-16-2006 | 02:53 PM
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RE: Drawlenght vs Speed
One other small point. Your arrows will also be a couple inches shorter than your friend's, so they could be 15 grains or so lighter. Maybe even more if your arrowsare a spine class under his. That would add another couple of fps to your projected arrow speed.
Lots of folks think us guys with extra long draw lengths can really crank out the speed. But what they don't realize is our longer arrows are longer (more weight)and also have to be spined stiffer, which makes them muchheavier.
For instance, I don't cut arrows to length because the raw shafts are already to the length I need (a few mfr's don't make shafts long enough for my arrows). I just glue an insert in a raw shaft and stick the nock in the other, fletch it up and that's my arrow.The 'light' arrows I used with my 60 lb compound were7595 Gold Tip XT's, and they weighed around 450 grains.
Lots of folks think us guys with extra long draw lengths can really crank out the speed. But what they don't realize is our longer arrows are longer (more weight)and also have to be spined stiffer, which makes them muchheavier.
For instance, I don't cut arrows to length because the raw shafts are already to the length I need (a few mfr's don't make shafts long enough for my arrows). I just glue an insert in a raw shaft and stick the nock in the other, fletch it up and that's my arrow.The 'light' arrows I used with my 60 lb compound were7595 Gold Tip XT's, and they weighed around 450 grains.
01-16-2006 | 03:02 PM
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RE: Drawlenght vs Speed
MAN - some of you guys are DEEEEEEEEEP!
I have to chuckle a little bit here because I thought I was starting to understand some of the inner workings of things.....but I just read that and felt like an idiot in about 3 seconds.
I have to chuckle a little bit here because I thought I was starting to understand some of the inner workings of things.....but I just read that and felt like an idiot in about 3 seconds.
01-16-2006 | 03:17 PM
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RE: Drawlenght vs Speed
ORIGINAL: Arthur P
One other small point. Your arrows will also be a couple inches shorter than your friend's, so they could be 15 grains or so lighter. Maybe even more if your arrowsare a spine class under his. That would add another couple of fps to your projected arrow speed.
Lots of folks think us guys with extra long draw lengths can really crank out the speed. But what they don't realize is our longer arrows are longer (more weight)and also have to be spined stiffer, which makes them muchheavier.
For instance, I don't cut arrows to length because the raw shafts are already to the length I need (a few mfr's don't make shafts long enough for my arrows). I just glue an insert in a raw shaft and stick the nock in the other, fletch it up and that's my arrow.The 'light' arrows I used with my 60 lb compound were7595 Gold Tip XT's, and they weighed around 450 grains.
One other small point. Your arrows will also be a couple inches shorter than your friend's, so they could be 15 grains or so lighter. Maybe even more if your arrowsare a spine class under his. That would add another couple of fps to your projected arrow speed.
Lots of folks think us guys with extra long draw lengths can really crank out the speed. But what they don't realize is our longer arrows are longer (more weight)and also have to be spined stiffer, which makes them muchheavier.
For instance, I don't cut arrows to length because the raw shafts are already to the length I need (a few mfr's don't make shafts long enough for my arrows). I just glue an insert in a raw shaft and stick the nock in the other, fletch it up and that's my arrow.The 'light' arrows I used with my 60 lb compound were7595 Gold Tip XT's, and they weighed around 450 grains.
The 7595 goldtips are the arrow I am talking about in this thread!!
Only difference in mine is they are 30 inches long!!I dont know for sure how much the inserts weigh,the knock weighs and the fletching + I crestened about 6 inches of the arrow.Which should weigh about 10 gr>
01-16-2006 | 04:07 PM
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RE: Drawlenght vs Speed
ORIGINAL: D.Parsons
The 7595 goldtips are the arrow I am talking about in this thread!!
Only difference in mine is they are 30 inches long!!I dont know for sure how much the inserts weigh,the knock weighs and the fletching + I crestened about 6 inches of the arrow.Which should weigh about 10 gr>
The 7595 goldtips are the arrow I am talking about in this thread!!
Only difference in mine is they are 30 inches long!!I dont know for sure how much the inserts weigh,the knock weighs and the fletching + I crestened about 6 inches of the arrow.Which should weigh about 10 gr>
01-16-2006 | 05:34 PM
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ORIGINAL: MilDotMaster
These were the arrows I was shooting. If you are talking about the standard XT Hunter 7595 (not camo) your arrow weight should be at 430 grains with 100 grain tips or 455 grainswith 125 grain tips.
ORIGINAL: D.Parsons
The 7595 goldtips are the arrow I am talking about in this thread!!
Only difference in mine is they are 30 inches long!!I dont know for sure how much the inserts weigh,the knock weighs and the fletching + I crestened about 6 inches of the arrow.Which should weigh about 10 gr>
The 7595 goldtips are the arrow I am talking about in this thread!!
Only difference in mine is they are 30 inches long!!I dont know for sure how much the inserts weigh,the knock weighs and the fletching + I crestened about 6 inches of the arrow.Which should weigh about 10 gr>
01-16-2006 | 05:51 PM
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RE: Drawlenght vs Speed
Wow, I'm so new I didn't know that draw length affected arrow speed.
Guess I'm outta luck with a freakishly short draw of 26" (I'm 5'10" and 175lbs, shoot a small bow @ 55lbs).
So if I have an advantage shooting lighter should I move to carbon arrows (I already shoot 100grn broadheads), or am I better off with some weight downrange as I read in a recent post?
Guess I'm outta luck with a freakishly short draw of 26" (I'm 5'10" and 175lbs, shoot a small bow @ 55lbs).
So if I have an advantage shooting lighter should I move to carbon arrows (I already shoot 100grn broadheads), or am I better off with some weight downrange as I read in a recent post?
01-19-2006 | 11:20 AM
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RE: Drawlenght vs Speed
Lots of folks think us guys with extra long draw lengths can really crank out the speed. But what they don't realize is our longer arrows are longer (more weight)and also have to be spined stiffer, which makes them muchheavier.