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BEARBUSTER66 01-13-2006 03:40 PM

LONE WOLF VRS. SUMMIT STANDS
 
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THESE STANDS ? CANT MAKE UP MY MIND ON A CLIMBER!!:eek: THANKX FOR YOUR HELP!!

WKP Todd 01-13-2006 04:06 PM

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You will hear alot of good things about both of these brands. You need to do yourself a favor and see them both in-person before you decide. Visit a shop(s) that carries one or both of them. Review the features and benefits of each stand, and better yet, get them in your hands. I think you will notice quite a difference between the designs of each of these companies that will make the decision much easier!

big ol bucks 01-13-2006 04:54 PM

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hands down no questions asked a lonewolf. Summits are a little lighter but are alot more noisier. I like the lone wolfs alot. I personally have the ol man climbers cause they are just as quiet but that much more comfortable cause they have a netting like a hammock and u can slide it forward to recline all the way back. Thats what i will be buying again if i have to is the ol man. Lone wolfs are really good stands though

VAhuntr 01-13-2006 05:26 PM

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I have used Lone Wolf, API, and Summits just to name a few over the last few years. For me, Summit is the hands down winner. No doubt the Lone Wolf is a great stand, but if you are a big guy it may not be the stand for you. I just could not sit still in the Lone Wolf Sit & Climb for any length of time. The Summit is a little heavier and bulkier but much, much more comfortable. Follow the advice above and try to look at several different models and brands of stands.

BEARBUSTER66 01-13-2006 05:30 PM

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Thanks , i have tried the the summits,and they do make some noise, i havent tested the lone wolf yet, but i have checked them out in the pro shops!!

Brett/IL 01-13-2006 05:38 PM

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I have owned both, the Lone Wolf wins hands down! Easier to use, much more quiet, and definitely easier to pack in and out.

Gut Check 01-13-2006 05:45 PM

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I have never owned a Lone Wolf but I do own a Summit. I would agree that they are somewhat noisy and more bulky than Lone Wolf but I haven't had any noise issues while actually hunting. You shouldn't experience any noise problems if you use the extra strap to secure it to the tree.I know the Lone Wolf's are a bit more expensive so personally, I would rather own2 Summit's that I could putsome property and lock them to the tree.They are comfortableas well.

I havehad mine for 4 seasons now and have killed plenty of deer out of mine. I am sure thatLone Wolf is a very good stand but I don't know if they are worthdouble the cost unless you can catch them on sale.

Craddock 01-13-2006 05:57 PM

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hands down no questions asked a lonewolf
What? Huh? Bull! There are always questions. The Lonewolf is a little lighter and easier to pack in. Awsome stand. There are stands that are more comfortable though. The summit is a bit more cumbersome to pack in. While some of the older ones were noisy the new Viper X5 is silent. One of the most comfortable stands you can buy. I like them both. The Viper is a better value and is much more comfortable. The Lonewolf has sure its advantages though.

The question is.... What are you looking for in a stand? Are you more concerned with comfort or weight and bulk while packing in, ect.?

monster10rackstack 01-13-2006 07:50 PM

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Both companies have great stands.Personallysummits 100%. Craddock is right some of the older stands do make noise, But the newer ones arereally quiet. Another thing you can do to take even more noise out of a climber is by grinding the paint off the teeth of the stand where it meets the tree. You don't have to grind much off JUST the paint and then there shouldn't much noise. Summits have a nicer price tag on them

300ultramagshooter 01-13-2006 09:17 PM

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I got a Summit and enjoyed it since I bought it!! friends bought other stands and wish they went with SUMMITS

buck-i 01-13-2006 10:08 PM

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do the summit owners dip the cables in something when the coating wears off? and walking threw the trails my stand pings off every stick around do ya'll know what would help quiet this down,like the stand but its noisey.

dkbs 01-14-2006 01:48 AM

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Hello
I'm a huge fan of the lone wolf treestands. I've had both the summit and lone wolf climbers.
My lone wolf when brand new and for the first three years was absolutely silent during use. No creaks at all while moving about on the platform. My summit, I was totally dissapointed in that stand since it creaked quite often when moving about. That stand only went hunting a few times, being silent while getting ready for the shot(other than being safe)is the most important feature of a stand. In summits defense, this stand was an older model that had thin channel for cross members and not the triangular tube that is used on the newer verisions. The instructions that came with the stand actually had some recommedations as for what to do to get rid of creaks, I tried those and still no luck getting rid of those annoying creaks.
My lone wolf just amazed me at its fine qualities. The first three years I didn't alter a thing. My wife says I can't buy anything without making any changes. I'm fussy and have a lot of years experience bowhunting and want things just so. So no changes for that time period says a lot. Just this fall my lone wolf climber (which probably gets used at least 50 or more times a year) started developing a creak. I took that stand apart and replaced all the nylon bushings, washers and bolts(about $4. from local hardware store)on the stand and the stand is once again perfectly silent. I did at this time alter the stand somewhat. I had ordered longer belts to handle some larger trees. But the problem with the longer belts is that they wouldn't handle the smaller trees since the bolts in the stand were fastened in such a manner that they acted as stops for the end of the belt. This kind of sucked if I went hunting with the longer belts and then wanted a smaller tree, it just wouldn't work. So when I redid the bolts/bushings, I changed the direction that the bolts ran through the components and now I can use the longer belts on small trees as well as larger ones. And I'm 100% sure this change does nothing to affect the safety of the stand.
One plus that I hearabout the lone wolf is its ability to pack flat. Which the stand does beautifully. I however won't pack it in flat during the cold late season. Its just that much more hassle to be fumbling with at the base of the tree when its cold/miserable out. So the stand easily packs in the ready to use position as well.
Having said all this, I'd probably be willing to try a summit stand again just because they have such a big following and I believe the way the new stands are built will have ended the creaking problem I had with mine. A lot of time, the money one has available becomes a driving issue and summit stands are cheaper on the wallet. But I should never have to buy another stand, since my lone wolf should last the rest of my lifetime.
This is just my two cents arrived at from years and years of experience since I'm an old fart. I actually had a baker climbing treestand, the first climbers ever built.
Happy and Safe Hunting
Dan

Craddock 01-14-2006 05:05 AM

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do the summit owners dip the cables in something when the coating wears off?
There is a guy on ebay that sells the replacement shrink tubing for around $6. Clean the old stuff off, slip the cable through the new tubing and apply heat. I have not done this as my cables are not wore down bad yet. Summit also sells replacement cables and they can sometimes be found on ebay

WKP Todd 01-14-2006 10:02 AM

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Big Ol' Bucks - Your comment regarding weight is incorrect. Lone Wolf has lighter-weight stands.

Lone Wolf Hand Climber - 14 lbs.
Lone Wolf Sit & Climb - 18 lbs.
Lone Wolf Alpha Hang-on - 12.5 lbs.
Lone Wolf Assault Hang-on - 8.5 lbs.

All stands are also rated to 350 lbs.

Craddock 01-14-2006 10:43 AM

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ORIGINAL: The Lone Wolf

Big Ol' Bucks - Your comment regarding weight is incorrect. Lone Wolf has lighter-weight stands.

Lone Wolf Hand Climber - 14 lbs.
Lone Wolf Sit & Climb - 18 lbs.
(cut hang on stands because question was about climbers)

All stands are also rated to 350 lbs.
Since you are implying that the Lonewolf stand are lighter I thought it only fair to give the weights of the Summit stands

The Summit Viper X5 is a Sit & Climb that weighs 20 lbs. This one is heavier but more comfortable. Depends what you are looking for in a stand. No one in their right mind would argue the Lonewolf is more comfortable than the viper X5. As much as I like Lonewolf stands I would not buy their sit and climb over a Viper X5. To me the Lonewolf advantage is in their lightweight packable handclimber. Lets compare that weight to the summit.

The Summit Openshot (handclimber) weighs 14 lbs also! It would appear that you are incorrect for stating the Lonewolf has lighter stands. It would have been better to say some of the Lonewolf stands are lighter than the Summit counterparts.


Either way these are great stands. If I was going to get a Lightweight handclimber and the price was close I would get a Lonewolf( I have never used the Summit OpenShot though- it may be great and probably more comfy). If I was going to get a Handclimber I would go with the Summit Viper X5 or Razor X5.

Summits rates their stand to 300 lbs so this could be a factor for some of you heavy boys.

WKP Todd 01-14-2006 11:08 AM

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I could sit here and argue about the weights of treestands or go out scouting and shed hunting. I'm going scouting bro! Have a great weekend everyone!

Tarheel_Hunter 01-14-2006 05:13 PM

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I don't know about Lone Wolf, but I LOVE my Summit!
Good luck!


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