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Well, I went and shot a Tribute, Allegiance, Switchback XT, and a Trykon, back to back. All I can say is WOW, in regards to the Bowtech's. The Tribute was absolutely dead in the hand andincredibly fast for a short ATA bow. The one I was shooting had the hush kit on it and a string loop. The draw length was 29" at 70#. It was launching a 410 gr. arrow at 310 fps with the speed mods in. The Allegiance was 12 fps. faster, but had a little, and I mean a LITTLE, recoil at the shot. Don't get me wrong, the Switchback XT and the Trykon were both very nice bows and I couldn't fault anyone for going with one of the two. I just could not believe how much I enjoyed shooting the Bowtech's. As explained to a buddy of mine on the phone tonight, after shooting the Tribute, I felt like I did years ago when I shot my Z-Max compared to my High Country Excaliber. Needless to say, when our season is over I will be selling my LX and buying a Tribute.
Now thequestions I have for you Bowtech owners.Does the "hush kit" work and does it hold up to heavy use? Or shouldI go with Limb Savers and Leeches?Are the Bowtech accessoriesany good? The guy at the shopwas speaking highly of the quivers made by Fuse. What drop away rest would you go with on the Tribute? I am currently shooting a ZE, but I am open to suggestions. Please feel free to throw in any other tips/advice. Keep in mind that you are helping aguy who has shot a Mathews, in one way or another, for 10 yrs. This is a step I thought I'd never take and I am ready for all of the "ribbing" I'll take. My wife has already startedby reminding me all she has heard through the years is"Mathews this and Mathews that, blah, blah, blah." Ha!Thanks for reading and for your help.

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Thehush kit has held up on mine for over a year now. They are starting to crack a little from the wear, but held up longer than I would have guessed. You should check out the Ultra Rest. It is perfect, and quick enough for our fast bows. I like the total containment feature, and if you draw, and let down, it won't drop. It will stay in the up position, until you shoot. My .02.

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Wow..........I thought after my first post you Bowtech shooters would have a little more to say, and a little more advice to give.

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You heard from our Bowtech shooter, what more do you want?

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No ribbing here ,now all your wife is gomnna hear is BowTech this ,BowTech that Blah,blah,blah LOL,
I've found the 04 accessories to do the job just fine ,I've heard some remark's of the silencers falling apart ,but then again after 200 or so shot's you should expect it .I think you'll be pleasantly surprised with the BT silencer's ,so wait and see for yourself before you go spending any unnecassary gear. As for a rest I's go with a drop away ,there's many good one's on the market ,I prefer the MZE which I have on my BT Patriot Dually and it work's awsome ,easy to install and work's flawlessly. Congrat's with your new bow and welcome to the BowTech brotherhood.

nubo

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Sorry I mean 2000 shot's or so.

nubo

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rdy2hunt,
I'll try to send you PM before the weekend is up regarding your questions.......right now it's Christmas Eve and I'm on borrowed time.;)

Until then..........

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I leave the string silencers on until they fly off then replace them with cat whiskers cut to about the size of a 1/2 dollar.

I have found no difference between limb savers and the Bowtech limb things so why spend extra money on limb savers;)

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My Bowtech Liberty has been shot over 100 times easy. and the hush kit is still doing great. I had one little end fall off one of the string jax but that's all. I also have Limbsavers on it, just to be safe.

I did shoot a buck this year at 18 yards, and the deer never moved after I shot him (well, besides falling to the ground!!). I have only seen stuff like that on TV. I shot him perfectly I guess. He twitched when I shot him and then went to the ground after about 5 seconds. He never knew what hit him, and he surely didn't hear my bow.

So, yes the hush kit works.

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[:o]Man,,10 years,,and now this....how do you sleep at night ???,,;)
I might have to check out the new BT.I have a 05' SWB,,and am pretty happy with it.It's a great shooter,,better than me,for sure.The very first Mathews I bought (Z-Lite),,was more than enough for whitetails,so anything since then has just been a little "+" in the performance catagory.
But,,as the kids get older,and money gets tighter,,I have to think more about buying THEM new bows.Thats fine by me :)
You get to a point in your life when watching and teaching your kids the things YOU love to do,becomes more important than doing them your self.
I grew up in the country,so all the things about the outdoorsmy kids find "cool", I take for granted,,or just simpley forgot how special they really are.
Sorry,,not sure why I'm on a rant,,but,,more than checking out the hot newbows for06',I can't wait to get my kids set up with THIER new rigs :).

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First off, let me say "thank you" for the replies. I know it is a hectic time of year and many of us don't get to the board as often as we normally do. I guess I was just more than a little excited after shooting the Tribute. Droptines- I hear you brother. My wife and I just finished setting up our 11 and 13 year old boys with new bows. I cannot wait to be there when they each take their first deer. The three of us have already comitted to shooting a 3-D league together this spring. It is such a great feeling to have your children taking part in the thing you love most. BTW if the rain will let up here the three of us will be heading outside to shoot their new .22's thatthey opened this morning.:D

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Matt/Pa, First let me say that I always enjoy reading your posts, they are always helpful and informative. The picture you posted though.............that's just not fair! As I was sitting in my tree yesterday morning I found myself looking at my LX hanging on my e-z hanger............wishing it was a TRIBUTE!:( Arghhhh! All your photo did was make me want to change bows before the end of season, which I promised myself, and my wife, that I would not do. Thanks alot!;)

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I'm also considering a Bowtech tribute. If i go ahead and upgrade, it will be a huge leap in equipment for me. I was considering the Switchback, but after handling a Tribute......I'm pretty pumped about it. Right now I'm shooting a PSE Beast 4x4. I like the bow, but I kept hearing about these Bowtechs. Finally, the shop I buy most of my stuff from, became a BT dealer. They have had the new Tributes for about 2 weeks and have sold 3 already. Considering it's in a small town of about 400 people, that's selling them like hotcakes!


GH

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The Tribute is an amazing bow for sure....I have a '05 Allegiance and the Hush Kit holds up pretty well I think....I just now had to replace the string silencers with string leeches and the limb silencers are still in perfect condition...I have shot the Tribute several X's since the shop here first got them and I will be ordering mine this week...I'm like you I was a diehard Hoyt shooter until last year when I picked up a Bowtech for the first time....I feel like changing brands now would be taking a step backwards....Good Luck....Oh yeah ?? I shot the Tribute here at the shop and it was 29'' DL #70 and I had a 350gr. arrow and I was getting 310fps...Which is fast enough and I hadn't thought much about it until I saw that you posted the same speed with a 410gr. arrow and a loop on the string which I did not have...Just Curious??? I'm going to check again tommorrow...The one I shot also had the speed cam installed also...

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I bought my Tribute about a month ago and love it, it is so smooth.

Shane

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Thanks for the help everyone.

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I got a diamond victory for christmas. Have already shot it about 200 times and everyting is holding up great! Could not be happier.
I put A trophy ridge drop away rest on it. It only took 3 shot trough paper and it was tuned. As for the hush kit, I think it works great,agree with everyone else. Don't spend money on gear that is not needed. Took it to the bow shop yesterday. It shot a 400 grain arrow 250 fps @ 60# draw, and is super quit. Its a far cry from the hoyt deviator i was shooting. Good luck!

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Congrats on deciding to buy the Tribute. I would have bought one also but I just got my Defender in June so my wife would kill me if I bought the Tribute. I never should have shot one because it just made me dream of different ways that I could get one. :) I am going to wait for the 07 models to come out to see if they have any new goodies for that year.

The hush kit on my 05 Defender only lasted a couple of hundred shots. One of the string silencers was done in about forty shots. The other lasted to about two hundred. The two sliencers on the cable are OK. One is just started to show a crack on one of the fingers. I don't know why mine broke so fast. Others have had theirs last longer. I now have leaches but they also break. The Tribute was so quiet, you may not need them anyway. I would shoot it until they fall off and then see if you notice if the bow is louder.

For a quiver, look at the new Bohning Panther. The shaft is flexible and is supposed to help dampen noise. They make it in a four or six arrow design. You can purchase an additional mounting base for it and then get the Kwikee tree screw and hang your quiver on the tree when in the stand.

For rests, I use the QAD Ultra. It drops fast enough for the Bowtechs. I like the total containment feature and their Customer Service is very good. I have never tried the ZE but many people love them. I have heard a few people complain that they are very hard to adjust on the new Bowtechs due to the speed and the shortened cable movement on the rod. I would imagine the Tribute would also be hard to adjust with it's beyond parallell limb design. I am sure that if you wanted the ZE, there would be a way to make it work. It may also be quieter since the prongs do not hit the shelf or any internal stops.

You didn't say it but for sights, I would recommend one of the HHAs. They are probably the sturdiest sights I have seen and very bright.

No ribbing here. I have shot Browning, Hoyt, Bear, Buckmasters and now Bowtech. I will say that I think Bowtech makes the nicest bows for me now but who knows what the future will hold! ;)

Sounds like you had a Merry Christmas! Congrats!

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G2 Shooter, Sounds like one more resounding vote for the Bowtech.:DAs far as sights go, I was thinking about a Spot Hogg, but I will look at the HHA's as well. I looked over the Fuse quick detach quiver carefully today. It appears to be well built, and I love the mount that goes on the bow. I also looked at the Fuse stabilizers and was impressed as well. All in all they appear to have a pretty good line of accessories going. For the first time in my life I am finding myself anxious for the end of bow season.;)

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Sorry for the delay in responding.....been a hectic few days around here.;)

Congrats on the decision to buy the Tribute. It is a fantastic shooting bow as you have already discovered. I'll have to post a pic of my bow now fully decked out when I get a chance.Added my 6" Stealth stabilizer to the bow and a SIMS cable dampener and camo'd both with the Advantage Max4 tape and they look terrific. Love this bow.

As for the factory installed Hush Kit.......it works well no doubt. In fact it has been proven through decible meter tests a little while back that the Bowtech string silencers are within something like a 1/10th of a decible of the SIMS string Leeches. (This was done in a test of the Bowtech Liberty Vs. the Champion Diablo by an independent test source)
No rubber string silencer is going to last forever that's for sure. In order to exhibit the necessary vibration reduction the material must be pliable and relatively fragile. They will wear out..........SIMS Leeches WILL wear out. They ALL wear out with maybe the exception of served in Cat Whiskers or the like. The speed at which they wear out has to do with a few things relating to the individual bow they are on........power stroke, draw weight, and arrow weight all translate into how much energy is transmitted through the bow string itself.
Another very overlooked component to string silencer wear is PLACEMENT onthe string. These little buggers stretch like crazy at the moment the string returns to brace at the shot and if you look at their placement you will quickly realize what will happen to them as they surge forward a few inches into the relm of your cables.
The little arms will stretch beyond the cables and snag on the way back. This is why you will hear sometimes of someone losing arms on their silencers in only a few shots.
Sliding them down beyond the path of your cables will reduce the wear , will make the string even quieter and will only rob a slight amount of speed. (The more weight in the center of your string the more speed will be affected)

I typically use SIMS Limbsaver Ultras AND the installed Bowtech Hush Kit limb silencers on all of my Hunting bows. I like the added quiet the 2 combined provide , although the Bowtech version does work pretty well. The trick is to get them up near the limb forks in the normal spot that you would place Limbsavers.
If you add Limbsavers you have the option of moving the Bowtech ones around the limb surface to personally tune feel and noise to your liking.

The Tribute is an extremely quiet bow to begin with but it certainly doesn't hurt to add a few things to make it as whisper quiet as possible.

For a drop away rest I have settled on the APA "Twister" Safari as my rest of choice. It's dead quiet, a breeze to tune, full containment and very accurate. It also by design provides a very neat simple hook up to the slide tab since the drop cord comes off the top of the rest. It tucks neatly along the cable rod straight back to the slide.

If you are considering a Muzzy Zero Effect hold off a few weeks. Muzzy is coming out with a new version that is designed around these extreme parallel limbed bows. The Binary cam bows do provide a little more slide travel than a single cam bow of the same geometry but the reduced limb tip travel doesn't lend itself to an easy tuning experience with the ZE as is.
Supposedly the new version will eliminate the tuning and set-up problems associated with this style of bow.

For a stabilizer?.......I would look no further than the one that I mentioned above. Stealth Archery. The FUSE looks pretty cool but IMO nothing matches the vibration and noise reduction of a Stealth stabilizer. They are even offered in Mossy Oak Obsession that was dipped at Bowtech's "Waterdog" dipping facility so you know that they are an exact match for your bow's camo. A 6" seems to be a great fit for this bow in function and balance.
A Bowtech MO Obsession quick diconnect quiver would round out an extremely well done and "fashion concious";)set-up.
I'm a confirmed bow mounted quiver HATER and enjoyed using my Bowtech quick detach model very much this year. (It still comes off the second I hit the treestand, but its fit and function were flawless)

If you have any more questions feel free to give me ayell anytime, and good luck with the new bow!
Matt

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Matt/Pa, Thanks for the great info, it is very much appreciated. I am looking forward to setting this thing up almost as much as I am looking forward to buying it. There just seems to be more and more "goodies" hitting the shelves every year. I like the looks of the Bowtech quiver, but the Fuse quick detach really caught my eye. I will check out the APA rest and the Stealth stabilizer. Once again thanks to everyone, and I'll let you know how it is set up when it comes home.

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I didn't see your post. I just posted about the tribute. I've got one on the way. The hush kit does the job, the only thing is every once and a while you lose a node off of the string silencers. That's it. I love the tribute andcan't wait to get mine.