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I didn't even bother to see who was posting--move over ANTLER i need to take a seat on the idiot stool myself!

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I agree. I thought it seemed out of character for AE. I actually went back to the beginning of the post to double check that it was, in fact, antler eater. Funny story though. I was thinking you were making it all up to make a point about the other last light thread.

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And with that, I'm off to go see if I can orphan a fawn or two myself! ;):D

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Didn't even cross my miniature mind....

I was just going to tell my story in an interesting fashionandattempt a little lesson in biology (which didn't really get done)all at the same time.:D

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Misleading, yup.

Questionable, yup.

Happier ending, yup....well as happy ending as it could be....sad and interesting really but not one that could be helped and this particular doe had to been bred very early, however AE, ya had me worried about ya.

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I did think it was weird that a life member would make a post like that and im gladI got in on it after the cat was out of the bag. But man you did really ask for it though. I thought you screwed up when you first said you had no tags then said you had tags? It was probally part of your mind game and you could respond by saying that you didn't have a tag for embryos. My little brother does stuff like this too, and then sits back and enjoys, maybe you should turn yourself into the doctor for A.D.D. it helped him maybe it would work for you too.

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Both of these statements imply that there were 2 seperate deer and that you had broken the law.

Stupid trolling post.

To act surprised at the comments you received is even dumber.......considering they are EXACTLY what you were looking for and knew would come........otherwise you wouldn't have written your post that way.

Why would you keep a fetus in your freezer and take pictures of it?? That is pretty sick and also shows tremendous disrespect for the animal. What a black eye this thread is to hunting in general.

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The bigger question is......... at what point did the fetus become a "life"? [&:]

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And so another day ends, here, on the continuing saga of "why the non hunting population hates bowhunters!" :eek:

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"Stupid trolling post."

I would say it was a rather clever one and borderline "trolling" at that. Not as malicious as many of the posts I see that are intended to draw firey responses.

"To act surprised at the comments you received is even dumber.......considering they are EXACTLY what you were looking for and knew would come........otherwise you wouldn't have written your post that way."

Perhaps he was speaking facetiously or tongue-in-cheek. Or perhaps he was hoping someone would figure something was up. I don't know AE personally but he is on my bowhunting contest team and I have read his posts before. I felt like something was funny right away and that it must be some sort of riddle. All in good fun if you ask me.

"Why would you keep a fetus in your freezer and take pictures of it?? That is pretty sick and also shows tremendous disrespect for the animal. What a black eye this thread is to hunting in general."

Hmmm...Possibly to share with a DNR biologist or some other researcher who might be very excited to study it in many different ways. I have never seen a deer fetus - a picture or in person. Very interesting to me. I think the photos were all very respectful and in good taste. He wasn't doing anything odd to it or making fun of it in any of the pictures. How many of us post pictures of our bowkills. Is that disrespectful to the animal?

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Good thing you don't get paid to analyze problems cause you were a galaxy away on this one...

Implied in your mind perhaps, but they are both factual...There were two deer that left the scene together and there is no reason to turn myself in because no laws were broken.

You know a little commons sense goes a long way. I remember a few years ago one of our esteemed (and I mean that respectfully) moderators entitled a thread something to the effect of "Help, Ihit running deer at 50 yards and I can't find it"... I knew right away that wasn't the case just because of who he was. As has been pointed out, even if that happened, that type of individual is not going to put it on a public forum...think about it....

The fact that I am responding to this statementproves to myself I am an idiot. :D


Atlas I am usually amazed at your perspective of things so this is just par for the course. Where we differ however is that I respect your right to your opinion and refrain from attacking you.

I find your "know it all" attitude about bow huntingafter harvesting a couple of button bucks and a few (is that accurate or am I grossly off) other deer with a bow to be somewhat amusing.

Your own words show your ignorance on the subject of fetus' in relationship to breeding periods and fawn develpment. Many fetuses are photographed, frozen, and measured. While I would like to be able to take credit for the science of it I must admit I am not that sharp. This data provides information about the herd that some of us are interestedin and can learn from. I am sorry it does not meet your high standards.Our gun season just ended here the 18thand tens of thousand of does have been harvested in that venue. I would venture to say that over 90% of the folks that kill a doe in post rut are not aware the fetus is even in the gut pile.

It is not "sick" in any way nor "disrespectful" to the animal to inspect the fetus. Quite the contrary.It is for lack of a better word, a compliment to the species that a person would take the time, go to that effort,and have the know how to find a fetus as well as record any information it can give.

Surely youinspect the vitals of your kill for information...No more disrespectful or sick to do that thanto inspect the fetus for information. I don't expect most people to go to the extremes that I do to further their knowledge about their local herd. I don't look down on those that don't put that kind of effort into it, it is just something I do for my own knowledge and development.

Atlas even when I hunted in highpressured areas for meat years ago I chose not to shoot button bucks. When you shot one this year I sincerely congratulated you for it and didn't attack you for something I find rather silly. Further, I would fight for your right to hunt and shoot whatever was legal and not think twice about it. Again without attacking your style.
This thread is not even close to giving hunting a black eye. For that to happen you would have to look in the mirror!

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I think anyone who has readAE's posts knows what kind of hunter and sportsman he is. I was suprised to see some of the members who jumped on him with such sketchy details of the hunt posted. When I read the post yesterday evening I thought it was a joke in regards to the ethics thread.

I see nothing wrong with the thread or the photos. I enjoyed the pics myself as I have never saw a deer fetus before.

Congrats on your doe harvest and best of luck on the next.

*EDIT*

I just read your last response. I 100% agree. Right on

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Not at all........right on the money given what was posted.





How can you remember seeing 2 deer leave the scene?? You would have had to know she was pregnant for that to be true.


So you are admitting to trolling? Nice to know only "new" people here are dumb enough to post when they make a mistake........and all the seasoned board members just keep them quiet :eek:


Yea.......by biologists and those studying deer.......not some dude that kills a doe and keeps it's unborn in his freezer next to the ice cream.......then posts pics in a public forum that have no educational value at all. You are a true hero of scientific research.


How do your pics accomplish this?


So what??


I'm sure she appreciates that "compliment"..........If that deer had known you were gonna take it's unborn home and put it on ice only to post weird pics of it on the net I'm sure she would have jumped in front of you to be first in line for that "honor"


BIG difference........I see what was hit and relate it to blood trail and distance covered before piling up.......I also check the stomach to see where and what they were eating. I don't take the organs home and put them in the freezer to take pictures of.


What possible information are you obtaining looking at that thing in your freezer??


I didn't shoot a button buck.........I shot 2 of them.......and a spiker. I really couldn't care less what you or anyone else thinks about what I shoot. I hunt for me.......and no one else.


Show this thread to any anti or even non hunter and I bet you get a different opinion.

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For my own information......

Is anyone else tired of atlas's constant bickering?

Really get over yourself all ready.

I want so badly to put atlas on ignore but can't make myself do it. The shock value of his outlook on most everythingkeeps me from hitting that little red block button.

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AE, I thought that was clever. I read all the responses and found it amusing how they just kept attacking you without getting answers to thier questions! Alot of asuming was jumpn' off.;)

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Not make enemies, but yes I agree buckeye. Everyone has the right to their own opinions but he can't seem to agree with anyone.:eek:

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Antler, I thought there was a little more to your first post than met the eye, especially after reading your story about your buck for the hunting contest. If you are not getting paid for writing you should be.
I just hope that this is not your entryfor next years buck contest [8D]

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Well this response is from a new member and after reading the entire thread then rereading the original post I still read it to say that you killed 2 deer not a deer carring a fetus.. personally I feel the post was in bad taste and seams like it was posted just to see if you could get people going.. it was very misleading.. this is just my opinion..
I would never make a post like that I would say a killed a doe carring a fetus.. why push peoples buttons...????????
let someone that is against hunting read that post and ask them how it comes accross to them bet they would use it to try to ban hunting...

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The 3rd degree reminds me of a few Pa. game wardens I've heard about.I love how people assume eveyones guilty. what wrong with the world today.Give the benefit of doubt,wheres the love?

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A real twisted sense of humor [:'(]to say the least.

Don't even bring that crap into this forum please.

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Your good AE;)

HATCHET JACK

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I personally think this post was amusing. I am all for a good gigging
every now and then. I am particularly disgusted with some of the egomaniac holier than thou attitudes that some people have exhibited.
Whether a member is a "lifer" or a "newbie" to this forum should have no
bearing whatsoever on how this was posted. I would probably be termed a
"newbie" because I am a new member to the forum, but I have been a hunter for over 25 years. Does that make me a "newbie" to hunting and my responses have no merit? Give me a break. Antler Eater, I thought this post was a hoot! We need a little more fun and some people need to get off of their high horses and relax. Do I care what the nonhunters think of me hunting? I don't think so. It is my right as well as everyone elses right that does hunt. Am I pissed that they don't hunt? No, that is their perogative. I am going to be a responsible hunter but I am not going to bow down to their opinions and alter the way I do things to satisfy their needs. JMHO......Good luck and good hunting to all and Merry Christmas.

ps....I don't do politically correct either.

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I agree. I also think that a thread like this portrays hunting poorly. I don't care that my neighbors are against hunting but I don't hang my deer from a tree and I keep my garage closed when butchering. Just being respectful. He is very respectful to me in turn.......he always asks how I did hunting even though he doesn't like it. We show each other mutual respect which is something not commonly found in the hunting vs non/anti world. Maybe if people were more respectful of each other instead of always trying to stick it in each others face then we would all be much happier.



You better reread the constitution because the right to hunt is not in there ;) Hunting is a privilege........no different then driving. You have to be a certain age to do it and you have to pass educational courses and a test to be allowed a license. That license (privilege) can be revoked at any time for violation of the rules.

I do believe that some states have tried to make hunting a right though I don't know how that went.

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I loose sleep over that very question every night.

Its to the point I can't even function. Loosing sleep - can't make love - don't want to hunt.

I can't even here the word "quote" without thinking of him.

BTW - good one AE - I had a feeeling something was up. But even if you did shoot two as every one got all riled up over - whatever - move on - mistakes happen.......................

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thanks for posting the fetus picks. i have chickens and i love candling the eggs when we're hatching them so i can see the little fetuses and the vain things running all around the egg pumping blood. its very cool, i've never seena deer fetus beforeand find it interesting as all get out (as all getout, as opposed to what i would say in person which would be much more colorful). the thread was a hoot. in fact if i had one it would be in my fridge also and i'd probably take it over to the university to a biology prof i know for some study and info.

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AE, you're already fishing?qualitybait ya got there........ LOL

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Are you trying to say lose?

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For inciting incessant bickering,yea I do think you should get in trouble for that.;)

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I do have to hand it to ya, Antler; that's the fastest I've seen a thread hit 1,500 views in a while! ;)

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AE I think you waited a little too longbefore comingclean. Letting people getall fired upover nothing for 2 pagesknowing full well it was nothingis a little disturbing imo. If your intentions were to survey how people thought, creative as you are, there were surelybetter ways. Although, non of which would have beennearly as fun.Well, I suppose your intentions were intensional.

atlas, you are the spitting image of a member on a car forum I help moderate.(no mention of good or bad) And I know you don't give a flying saucer what everyone thinks about you but despite what they may be saying or thinking, guys like you keep things intresting in an intresting way.

Man, I can't wait to see how "fun" things get around here during the off season. :)

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Looks like the little one passes the Ritz Cracker Test. A little mustard and we have an appetizer.

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Ok i haven't been bothered by anything in this thread, thought it was fine. And i don't get bothered easily buts thats over the line.

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All I have to say is I'm sorry, I jumped to conclusions.

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im glad i didnt scold ae or id feel like a giant idiot right now.

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Interesting thread on another site, too... ;)

http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=260811

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Antler Eater

Forget what I said about donating the 2nd deer to a needy family.[&:]:D

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Aaah, I needed a good laugh before heading off to bed... Thanks! :D

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Okay Guys, Ms. Antler Eater here. I have a few things to say.

1. Antler Eater will be shocked to learn that I know how to use a computer and am able to reply on his forum. I didn't say he would be happy about it, but I'm positive he'll be shocked.

2. I am a non-hunter but support ones"privilege" to hunt if that's their thing.

3. I am also an animal lover, and hate to see them die. However, being an intelligent person I understand the need for population control. If I hit 1 more deer with my car I may soon join the ranks of hunters. I never carry myfondnessof animals to the PETA extreme.

I read the entire thread and found it veryinteresting. I agreed with some, disagreed with some, and laughed out loud at many of the posts.As a non-hunterI was not offended by any of it, though I do find it sad that Bambi died.[&o](referring to the fetus)

* Double Creek, "At what point does a fetus become a life?" I love your sense of humor. Your timing cracked me up.

*Fieldmouse, Hors d' oeuvres will be served at 7p.m. Sautrday! [8D]
I have an appetizer I'd like to get out of my REFRIGERATOR!
I would NEVER allow it to be frozen next to my Haagen Daz!

Thanks and Happy Holidays!

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Just let me say real quick,I amhonored Mrs. Antler Eater! Sorry it took some yahoos around here to get you to make your first post, but...

Maybe one of these days soon I'll have the privilege of meeting you in person, as Ken and I have made passing remarks about me coming out there and hunting together... What he doesn't know is that they weren't made in passing ... ;)

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Antler Eater

Hey bud... been up to much lately?? ;)

Tim