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If you had been here longer then a few weeks you would know that I have been very open about this topic and showed pictures like this for years. I was playing on your lack of knowledge of the situation and premature assumptions..........basically I was having a little fun with you.....something that was obviously a lost cause.


Wrong.......there is no where to "leave" to. Once again you would know this had you been around longer.


Actually you are the only one that has ever mentioned it.


If you are gonna come in and start throwing around insults and accusations about someone's ethics then yes you should do that.........and it has nothing to do with me. It's just common curtesy. Walk into a local hunting club that you have never been in and jump into a conversation midstream and start insulting people and questioning their ethics and see how well that goes for ya.

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Think what you want..........I am not proudly displaying any law breaking or promoting anything. I am showing some pics of a nice buck in my yard. If you don't wish to view the thread you can always just not click on it.


Wasn't spiteful at all. Just an answer. Again you assume that I surf this site all day..........and again you are wrong.

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I just want to add that I think it's cool that Atlasman took the time to take and download these pics for our viewing pleasure. Nice buck, and nice pics.

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Hey atlas you missed my question earlier. Are u able to look for sheds within the refuge? If so, u ever find any from the giants you see?

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very nice, too bad it was not day light

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Nice.

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No.......not really. Like I said earlier I have been contemplating building a shed catcher in hopes of them knocking off an antler in my yard but so many of those things look like I might come home and find a buck all tangled in the thing. Maybe just a couple simple cross boards that they might bang their head on when looking up.

I think I will look into it this year.

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Thanks...........glad most of you guys enjoyed them.........seeing how I was standing out in the snow just for all you bums!! ;)

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Here ya go..........these are old.

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[8D]

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:)

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Wow what a buck. Do you feed them there? You should start putting corn out to keep him coming around and maybe you can find sheds close by. Worth a try anyways

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You can make an antler trap with page wire fence, Make it into the shape of a V and put the squirrel food in the narrow end of the V and if a bucks antlers are ready to come off when he pushes in for the feed the wire will knock them off.

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Wow I missed this the first time around! Cool Thread. Someone taking Atlas to task for something instead of vice versa...kinda funny!
I got no problem legal or not with you feeding deer. As long as if it's illeagle, you are not hunting them there, or on the way to, or away from the area. As for the excuse thatthey are eating my bushes or I'm feeding rabbits (from a hanging feeder). Thats all BS and makes you look like you are trying to justify something.


I don't know why anyones hunting ethics would be brought into question over a non-hunting situation. There are plenty of different ethics andi'll arguewith anyone whosays there are not.
I speed, I'm not always honest when a cashier gives me too much change. Yet I'm faithful to my wife and loyal to my kids, I also try to abide by the game laws.

Ethics are doing the right thing, even if, no ones looking.Regardless if doing the wrong thing is acceptable or leagle.

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That is what I was trying to SAY, thx Badattad

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This pic is pretty cool, in Northern MI in the TB zone were baiting and feeding is illegal(thank god). This picture shows the exact reason why the DNR(The DNR NOT ME) banned feeding and baiting in TB zone. The DNR claimed the deer noses touched, or ate the sylava of another deer(from the bait) is how TB was spread. People here called BS, but after seeing this picture they(DNR) might be correct. The deer heard in the area is now 1/2 of what it was 10 years ago.

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Seems to me you're contradicting yourself, Badatta2d. Do you really think that not being honest with the cashier is "ethical"? I can't count the dollars I've given back, even though nobody's looking.

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Great post!!!!!!!!!!! I guess some people don't get it! :eek:

Here is a little info on NY law for feeding and baiting deer!

http://www.dec.state.ny.us/website/d.../feedregs.html

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Thanks for posting the pics Atlas. I'll be honest I don't always agree with the posts you make.But I gotta sayafter all the valid points RQM has made I don't understand why you don't turn yourself in to thecops right now!?!?!:D

RQM, I suggest you sit back and read the forums for awhile before jumping in and bashing people. Your opinion might be respected a little more that way.

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In defense of atlas (kind of) , I know firsthand that deer destroying a yard is a genuine excuse. We have many suburban areas around here that hold pockets of deer that feed on anything planted in yards , shrubs , flowers , etc. etc.
It has gotten so out of hand that the DNR started having "special" hunts in these areas to remove the deer.

Here's where the "kind of" statement above comes in. Some of these property owners were putting out feed (corn etc.) to attract the deer because they enjoyed watching them. Problem was , when they finished the bait piles they would move on to the shrubs , flowers , etc. The DNR truly thought these deer had no place to go and that's why they stayed in the area. When enough of the neighbors got together with a petition to stop these few neighbors from feeding the deer and approached the DNR with their situation , a new light was shed on the subject. The neighbors who were putting out feed were forced to stop. Within six months the deer vacated the area and haven't returned. Onced winter approached they simply ran out of enough nutritional food to meet their dietary needs and they moved on. The closest block of woods to that area was where I grew up , roughly nine miles away. Don't think just because their surrounded by a concrete jungle they wont travel to a better habitat. I know you probably enjoy watching them (I know I do) , but do yourself and your neighbors a favor and stop feeding them and they will move on. If there is a patch of woods big enough to sustain them right by your property that is off limits to hunting , then your in a different situation and that should be handled the same way it's handled around here every year.
Have all the neighbors who are sick and tired of losing money through shrubs etc. get a petition up and approach your DNR , and chances are something will be done about it.

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BTW Atlas, I know of a guy who started putting the feed under a picnic table and it worked great as an antler trap, they knocked the horns off on the benches while reahing their heads down under the table, and they couldn't get stuck in them.

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If you got to watch deer interact as much as I do in my yard you would see that they are VERY touchy with their noses and mouths..........not uncommon at all for them to look like they are "kissing" Not feeding will do nothing to stop this sort of contact..........although I see where they are coming from.

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Cool.........I might try that.


Thanks.

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Every place is different and has different variables effecting that situation. We have a nice blend of everything here. Of course people like to see wildlife in their yards.......but their are limits (damage, danger etc.) All the people that live here have been here for a long time and this is just natural to us..........just part of the deal of living here. I don't know if that makes it right or wrong or good or bad..........it just IS.

No one feeds the animals here on a problematic level and no one wants to see all the wildlife disappear either. Perhaps I gave the wrong impression that these things are a nuisance. They certainly are not. They live here just like we do and we all get along just fine :)

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Hey Atlasman!

I have heard of making a shed catcher simply out of two large or four small bales of straw.

You simply put them 8 inches or so apart and place feed in between them.

When a buck tries to stick his head in between them to get to the feed, he pushes against the bales with his antlers or the stick in with just a little resistance to knock them off. I've been meaning to try this myself.

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Those are some sweet pics! I'd love to have a yard were the deer came in. Only bad thing is I'd want to shot them:D

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Yep, I agree, but I think the issue is the Bait brought deer in from other area's. Which put a bunch deer in the same area. As you know they ate, touched, etc and now the TB is spreading. I saw some aerial pics in Northen MI of deer coming to feed stations it was amazing to see how many deer were there in one area. I think these large feed stations were the issue, and people putting out a ton of feed(corn, apples).

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Atlas, thanks for the pictures of the deer, there are some real beauty's running around your back yard. Too bad you cant hunt them, otherwise you would run out of room on your walls!

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Agreed..........I don't even see how it is possible for anyone to feed on a large scale. They eat like locusts. It would cost a fortune to feed them.

I wonder how many guys out there are dumping thousands of dollars a year into deer feeders just to attract deer to their property?? You may as well just go on a hunt.

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He was bedded down in my yard when I got home from work tonight. I think I have decided to try and catch his sheds this year........should be interesting since I have never donw it before. Got some time to think about my plan of attack I guess.

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I would say he is riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight about 17 yards


How cool would it be to have a passthrough stick in your broadhead target [:o]

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Not with a weapon it isn't. It's illegal to hunt outside of legal hunting hours.Try this and see what happens.Walk out of the woods after sundown and unload your gun hena DEC officer is standing there. Or load your gun before sunrise while one is standing there, you'll find out about the law.

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I already tried to tell him that Charlie...........but as he said.....he "knows the law"

:eek:


I guess he thinks that you can sit in a tree in the middle of January with a gun full of slugs and the DEC won't mind as long as you don't shoot anything

The only thing more surprising (and sad) then how many people that don't know the hunting laws..........is how many people that don't know the hunting laws but THINK they do.

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Nice buck.
. To hunt—means to pursue, shoot, kill or capture (other than trap) wildlife and includes all lesser acts that disturb or worry wildlife whether or not they result in taking. Hunting also includes all acts to assist another person in taking wildlife.

If your in the woods with a weapon your hunting wether you shoot or not.

Carry a few deer slugs with you when your Turkey hunting in the fall,then try and tell the DEC officer you were'nt hunting deer out of season.

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LOL
I find it hillarious that this whole loaded gun & hunting hours comment is being beaten to death when I haven't even addressedor attempted to defend it (which I won't). I readily admit I never finished my thought on that OFF Topic comment. It was used as a feable attempt to defend illegal activity by atlasman, and I finished the post prematurely, and if given the chance to respond; I readily admit I failed to word it properly. I DO know the law; thank you.
My point has been from the beginning; That it is never "right" to break the law; Regardless of ones intentions. By definition; breaking the law is ALWAYS wrong. If I find a crippled / wounded Doe in the woods and dispatch her to end her suffering - Many (myself included) would say it was the right thing to do; However, its STILL Illegal and therefore wrong. Few would fault me for it, but its still wrong. Do you understand what I'm getting at?
Atlas (whether supposedly joking or not) tried to defend breaking the law and that he "was" doing the right thing. The tone of his posts have certainly changed since then. These deer are now not the vicious shrub destroying beasts at $2,000 / year that he initially portrayed them as. My opinions started when he denied specificallyfeeding the deer. Personally I find the whole situation sad, and see little difference between these "pets" and the ones raised behind high fenses - both are pathetic excuses for wild game and are primarily dependent on human handouts.
Fact, He's breaking the law
Fact, he lied about it (joking or otherwise)
Fact, he tried to defend it
As I said before, if he admitted what he was doing was wrong and owned it from the beginning, this post would be very different. Posting pictures of illegal activity simply makes light of the law and says what he's doing is ok.
Thats my opinion.

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My final thought on this is, Yes, maybe I am too much of stickler on the law; But I feel entirely WAY TOO many people feel its ok to pick & choose which laws they should follow and which ones not to. Or many feel its ok to interpret and twist the law into something its not meant to mean. This "fault" of mine probably comes from my work; however, when someone posts illegal activity in the public view, it sends a message that its OK. And thats something I take issue with. I'll admit I break the law too; but I know its wrong and have no excuse for it; so I certainly can't defend it. (hence, the reasonfor themany "lesser degrees" of each law.)

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atlasman makes his own laws damnit man!!! He is above you mere mortals and your silly laws #$%^$@^

Feeding deer is legal in his yard even if its in NY, and he's not hunting them which makes it okay you dumb $h!ts!!(just kidding about the dumb$h!ts lol) Hell, I wish he would come down to my place and help me feed my animals every morning, thenI could sit back and take some cool pictures too and think about ways to capturedeer antlers in antler traps.

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It's not legal,but it's done routinely. Heck I turned in a guy with a feeder in a field that had three stands around it and he didn't get a ticket.

There's a house I go by on the way to where I hunt the other day the had about 70 Turkey in the yard and about 8 deer. I talked tothe DEC about it their answer we really can't do anything about it.

With how smart you appear to be I'm shocked you couldn't tell he was kidding. It was rather obvious.

One difference, these deer aren't hunted.

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Then why would you write that it is legal to sit in your stand any time you want as long as you don't shoot anything???


Not many people here would disagree with that..........maybe if you knew more about everyone BEFORE you blasted them with accusations and insults you would have found that out.


#1.......I don't have to nor was I trying to defend anything to you. I have showed pics like these for years and always acknowledged that I know NY's stance on feeding deer. You coming in half way through the movie is not my fault and I don't feel the need to bring you up to speed on everything that has happened until this point.

#2.......I AM doing the right thing.



You must be having trouble comprehending the thread because I never said that.


Like I said 10 times already..........I have already stated multiple times over multiple years that I am fully aware of what I am doing. I was having some fun with you because you were a new guy who didn't know anything.......obviously you took me literally and I can't help that. The very last thread I posted pics in someone said it was illegal to feed deer in NY and my reply was a matter of fact "I know" Do a search if you don't believe me.

No one could be so dense that they would think someone would post pictures of deer eating and then say they weren't feeding them. Your sense of humor can't possibly be that dry (I hope).



Big difference is these deer are not hunted and they are in this situation because of ever shrinking habitat..........besides these deer are not primarily dependent on human handouts.......once again you assume to know things that you don't.


You must be kidding...........calling someone a liar is about as classless as it gets. Especially when you have no idea what you are talking about. I have ALWAYS been open and up front about what is contained in my pictures from my yard. Your attempts to paint me as a liar because I was having a little fun with you are pretty pathetic.


You are beyond clueless.


Already did that multiple times for years now...........not my fault you showed up late to the party.

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So you are telling everyone here that you have never went over the speed limit.......never jaywalked.......never rolled through a stop sign.......never walked into the woods with a weapon until after legal shooting time has started........never stayed in your stand even one minute after legal shooting hours ended????

If you have done any of those things above please tell us how your "picking and choosing" is somehow different or better then anyone else??