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OhiobowHunter56 12-08-2005 07:45 AM

Time to straighten this out
 
okay this is for those guys who say i didnt word it right... no the hunters that got out and shot did not get back in there truck and run it over.. 1.) they seen the buck in our hay field. 2.)they stopped got out and shot at it ..thats what that little boy told my buddies brother.3.) then it ran on the road as another truck came over the hill and hit it ..4.)The hunters and the guy who hit the deer are standing by the buck on the road.5.)Another vehichle comes flying over the hill and the hunters move out of the way and that vehichle hits it .. i know sounds farfetched but thats what the hunters themselves told me..6.)everything was legal on my part . i followed its tracks into the pines and sat there that evening as he later stepped out of the brush ahead of me and thats when i shot him7.) my hit must not have been that good maybe back quarter bye the way he reacted but from tracking in some spots the blood looked good

ANYTHING ELSE I SHOULD MAKE CLEAR SORRY FOR NOT HAVING EVERY DETAIL RIGHT EARLYER I DONT WANT PEOPLE CALLING ME A LIAR SO HOPEFULLY THIS STRAIGHTENS IT OUT... let me know anything else u need more cleerer

One more thing to make CLEAR - there was 3 vehichles involved.. 1st that the hunters were in. 2nd the truck that hit the deer first. and 3rd the last vehichle that ran it over

GMMAT 12-08-2005 08:03 AM

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I'm not really clear, though. Who's Dillon? And....where was his gun during the fist fight?

Tell the whole story.

jeff

TeeJay 12-08-2005 08:26 AM

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Who is on first?

OhiobowHunter56 12-08-2005 01:24 PM

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jeff whos dillon? what are you talking about

Rickmur 12-08-2005 01:32 PM

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I guess I could do a search of your threads to find out what you are talking about but why didn't you just post on the original thread [&:][&:]

Awww, I found it.

GR8atta2d 12-08-2005 01:57 PM

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So how is it your deer?? You hit it bad, then it was shot, and then ran over! What exactly is your claim to the deer?

BigJ71 12-08-2005 02:22 PM

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After hearing your "clearer":eek: explanation of what happened, You had absolutely no right to that deer at all and neither did the guys shooting at it. The person who hit it with their truck and KILLED it have the right to it......plain and simple. Now I'm not saying the driver of the truck did the right thing by hauling the deer away before contacting the proper authorities but he did kill it and therefore itwas HIS deer, sorry.

RTA47 12-08-2005 02:36 PM

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Let me see if I have this right?
1st-You shot it?
2nd-The deer then runs out into the field to where some hunters in a truck stops gets out and then shoots the deer?
3rd-Then the deer runs out into the road to where another truck comes over the hill and hits it?
4th-Then after all that! As the huntersand the 1st driver that hit the deer are standing over it looking at it? A 3rd truck pops up over the hill and hits the deer again? It was shot 2 times and hit by a 2 different trucks?
:eek:Sounds like a story I once heard about a dog named lucky!


deer-hunter18 12-08-2005 03:27 PM

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Im just wondering what you were smoking before you shot the deer?

Diesel77 12-08-2005 03:56 PM

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Who's on first???

Thats what I said!!

aeroslinger 12-08-2005 04:35 PM

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ORIGINAL: BigJ12
Now I'm not saying the driver of the truck did the right thing by hauling the deer away before contacting the proper authorities but he did kill it and therefore itwas HIS deer, sorry.
BigJ12, I don't think the guy in the truck would have a legal claim to the buck unless in Ohio a vehicle is a legal weapon to use to harvest game.

vc1111 12-08-2005 04:37 PM

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So how is it your deer?? You hit it bad, then it was shot, and then ran over! What exactly is your claim to the deer?
We have what appears to be a younger hunter who just had a rather bad experience during a hunt. He's obviously upset, which was apparent in his first thread. If you had little experience with hunting the rules in a rather complex situation like this, you might feel just as he does.

deer-hunter18:

Im just wondering what you were smoking before you shot the deer?

And I'm just wondering why you can't show a little respect for the guy even though you might not think he is entitled to the deer he shot because of the circumstances involved. Lighten up.

Ohiobowhunter56, I am sorry you had a bad experience. Perhaps your shot wasn't well-placed enough to properly drop the deer. Next time try to get a license number and call the game warden to help you sort things out.

atlasman 12-08-2005 04:47 PM

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ORIGINAL: OhiobowHunter56

thats what that little boy told my buddies brother.
Why didn't you say so in the first place........that clears everything up





i know sounds farfetched but thats what the hunters themselves told me..
It sure does........especially since you said that your converstaion with them consisted of you saying "That's my deer" and him replying "Where's your blood trail?" Then you said he told his buddies to "load 'em up" and they drove off with you calling them every name in the book.

Now you are saying that you were told that one guy shot at him, one guy hit him, and one guy ran it over after all that.........I guess the first two cars were parked neatly off the road and a group of guys just left the deer in the middle of the road.........both unfortunately, yet conveniently a car comes racing over the hill so fast that no one has any choice but to dive out of the way and watch as he runs over the deer.........yet again.

I can totally see how that could happen

That deer had worse luck then you do man.


HAZCON7 12-08-2005 05:06 PM

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What exactly does any of this have to do with BOWHUNTING?

TeeJay 12-08-2005 05:09 PM

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ORIGINAL: HAZCON7

What exactly does any of this have to do with BOWHUNTING?

my thoughts exactly

MOTOWNHONKEY 12-08-2005 05:42 PM

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I hope you have better luck next time Ohio. As beat up as that poor buck was you probably didn't want it any way.

nubo 12-08-2005 07:11 PM

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Thing's happen and sometime's they seem pretty far fetched ,as this story does .But regardless it could have happened ,so what's the big deal .
Ohio Don't bother fretting over this ,there's alway's next season .
These guy's don't have to believe you ,but only you know what really happened ,and that's what count's.

nubo

vc1111 12-08-2005 08:32 PM

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Great post, nubo.

Nice to see a little courtesy.

tsoc 12-08-2005 08:47 PM

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I third that sentiment!Yea they may be pretty unusual circumstances,but stranger things have happenned.

[email protected] 12-08-2005 08:54 PM

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Havent shot a bow since I was a kid and Im fifty two now so there wasnt bows like there is now but Im going to buy one and see if im any good at it!

mobow 12-08-2005 08:55 PM

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For the benefit of argurment, let's say he stretched the truth a little. Now, from what I gather from most of the statements made here, he's the only one that would ever do that.......right?? ;)[&:]

Let the ones without fault be the first to cast a stone.......

stoneman 12-08-2005 09:04 PM

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Hey, I think it's possible. :) I saw a deer crossing the interstate one time...it ran into the side of a pickup truck..spun around and ran BACK across the interstate, and got hit SOLID by an 18 wheeler...took most of the guys lower part of the cab off...it wasa BIG 8-pointer. I pulled over and drug the deer out of the interstate...the trucker kept the deer. His words were something to the effect that since it totaled his cab, he might as well get some dinner out of it. In Ohio, if you hit a deer, it's rightfully yours, but legally you have to have either the highway patrol, game warden, or sheriff deputy to give you a tag for it. You can even sign up for a "road kill list" and they will call you when a deer is hit if the driver doesn't want it...figured it was like that everywhere?

manuman 12-08-2005 09:05 PM

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ORIGINAL: vc1111


So how is it your deer?? You hit it bad, then it was shot, and then ran over! What exactly is your claim to the deer?
We have what appears to be a younger hunter who just had a rather bad experience during a hunt. He's obviously upset, which was apparent in his first thread. If you had little experience with hunting the rules in a rather complex situation like this, you might feel just as he does.

deer-hunter18:

Im just wondering what you were smoking before you shot the deer?

And I'm just wondering why you can't show a little respect for the guy even though you might not think he is entitled to the deer he shot because of the circumstances involved. Lighten up.

Ohiobowhunter56, I am sorry you had a bad experience. Perhaps your shot wasn't well-placed enough to properly drop the deer. Next time try to get a license number and call the game warden to help you sort things out.

Couldn't have said it better--a little common sense and respect when dealing with these matters goes along way--lighten up some of you guys!!

BigJ71 12-08-2005 09:24 PM

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ORIGINAL: aeroslinger


ORIGINAL: BigJ12
Now I'm not saying the driver of the truck did the right thing by hauling the deer away before contacting the proper authorities but he did kill it and therefore itwas HIS deer, sorry.
BigJ12, I don't think the guy in the truck would have a legal claim to the buck unless in Ohio a vehicle is a legal weapon to use to harvest game.
aeroslinger,

While I am not 100% sure how Ohio law reads, here in Illinois, if a motor vehicle hits and kills a deer the driver has legal right to that deer as long as is dies on or beside the roadway (not on private property) as this deer did. I was just using Illinois law as my reference. I'm sure most states laws read something in that order. Thats why I said the driver of the car/truck (whatever it was) that was the first to hit and kill the deer has legal right to it.

extreme1 12-08-2005 10:09 PM

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I truely feel for you Ohio,I really do,even though I am still confused:eek:

Now what about that poor deer.Being hit by 2 different hunters,and whacked by 2 different vehicles.I'm thinking he had a much worse day then you.
Hopefully the next one you get drops in its tracks,then there will be no argument over who's deer it is.
Good luck to you:)



extreme1 12-08-2005 10:11 PM

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Havent shot a bow since I was a kid and Im fifty two now so there wasnt bows like there is now but Im going to buy one and see if im any good at it!
Welcome aboard jim:)
lmao----now this is a prime example on how to change the subject.


BOWTECHBO 12-09-2005 05:54 AM

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I like your strategy deadlite......change the conversation back to Bowhunting.....welcome to the forum! :D

OhiobowHunter56 12-09-2005 07:56 AM

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finally settled

Charlie P 12-09-2005 08:27 AM

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On a lighter note, at least the guy that got it won't have to worry grinding the meat up,after getting hit by one car and run over by another the jobs already done.

wicchunter 12-09-2005 08:36 AM

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I agree with vc1111 and those like him. Stuff happens... plus some of Ohio's info was 2nd hand. If that deer was his first or one of his first I can relate to his frustration. Hang in there Ohio... it wil get better and you will end up with lots of great deer hunt stories.
I hunt in southeastern NY and we see it all... when deer season starts it's likea switch is thrown in some people...they would do anything for a deer... and I mean anything.

Pa Trophy Man 12-09-2005 08:52 AM

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Maybe it was hit by the same magic bullet that killed Kennedy. :eek:

atlasman 12-09-2005 08:54 AM

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ORIGINAL: OhiobowHunter56

finally settled




It was settled about 3 lines into your original post. How's the detective work going??........last we heard you were hot on the guys tail after getting tipped off by your brother's, cousin's, friend of a friend........or some little boy or something.

You got him right?..........let's see some pics of the deer.

atlasman 12-09-2005 09:03 AM

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ORIGINAL: Pa Trophy Man

Maybe it was hit by the same magic bullet that killed Kennedy. :eek:



The second car came off the grassy knoll..........and if you notice that when the deer was struck the second time it's head pitched back and to the left..........suggesting a bumper strike from in front of him........not from behind as the media would have you believe.

This deer reportedly had tried to have Castro killed and also had run-ins with the mob over reported affairs with a famous blonde actress......leading to speculation of all kinds as to who could be behind this horrible act.

A hunter was detained in a movie theater that was playing Bambi but he insists he is just a "patsy"...........unfortunately we may never know the real truth.

Charlie P 12-09-2005 09:18 AM

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I think the Mob was involved.

GR8atta2d 12-09-2005 09:21 AM

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Atlas good try, but your putting a spin on the story. I won't fall for it. I know the first car hit the "void" The empty cavern that exists near the vitals. The deer was unhurt by this strike. A friend of my mom's daughter saw the whole thing. She told my second cousin, on my brother in laws, side of the family, and he relayed the information directly to me.

My therapist says that it sounds as though the massive buck had suicidal tendacies and he was using any means available to become burger. It just so happens the bow and gun were not able to penetrate his tough outer layer. He then threw himself in front of the first Truck, it was Ford and the damge was tremendous (to the truck) so he waited for a Chevy to complete the job!

jhalfhill 12-09-2005 10:18 AM

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but it took the power of a Dodge to haul the big ole boy home:D

Lunker hunter 12-09-2005 12:58 PM

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Wow intresting story,sorry to hear it happened,but in life you expect the unexpected.

statjunk 12-09-2005 01:21 PM

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I say we nickname the deer, Hamburger. It can live on as a legend.

Actually I feel bad for him. Sucks to feel like something belongs to you and then someone takes it. Regardless of who it really belongs to.

Tom

buckmister 12-09-2005 01:41 PM

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Let me add another twist to this story. I can kinda see where Ohio bow hunter 51 is coming from. What if it had been a: lets not say a world record typical, but lets just say a Ohio state record typical. We've all made some bad shots. Your tracking the deer and come upon the soap scenario mentioned. Who gets the record and the head. Then what do you do. Who's the wood lot lawyer.

GR8atta2d 12-09-2005 01:47 PM

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I guess it would go the way of the Zaft buck...no one would ever know the real story.


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