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Another falls and is in a body cast.
Seems like every year something like this happens. We already have a friend who has to drive his wheel chair with his mouth from a fall from a stand. Now we know another. A women's husbandfrom my hunting partners work fell from a 12 foot stand the other day and is in a full body cast.
Not that I have ever met the guy, but it still hits home. Just be carefuly out there guys, and be protected from the first step you take off the ground. Please!!! |
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Anyone reading this and interested, check out seat-othe pants safty harness. Very easy to use.I'll not climb a tree without one. Not fallen yet. Just lucky I guess.
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I've hunted every day this year without a safety harness
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ORIGINAL: The Mind I've hunted every day this year without a safety harness |
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I've hunted every day this year without a safety harness But.... Remember that it only takes one fall to end up like the people I mentioned. The consequences of what will happen if you fall 12 feet is not worth the little extra time and $$$ that it takes to do it completely safe. |
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I can't believe that there's still dimwits who refuse to use a fall restraint , many even brag about hunting from heights of up to 35 feet ! Here's a tip dimwits: Falls from 25 feet or greater are usually fatal .
I almost fell last year when my climber slipped from 15 feet to 10 with no warning , the only thing that kept me from a nasty fall was the shoulder style fall restraint that came with the climber . It has since been replaced with a full body style and I'll never climb another tree or ladder stand without it again . |
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Not that I have ever met the guy, but it still hits home. Just be carefuly out there guys, and be protected from the first step you take off the ground. Please!!! I've hunted every day this year without a safety harness |
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About 6 years ago, I had a weld brake on my Climber and I was left hanging by my severly sprained ankles from my stand. I though life was over. I very painfully had to pull myself up and slide down the tree and crawl back to the car. A freiend retrieved all my stuff while I was laid up. A top name brand stand that we all use!!! I wouldn't dream of climbing a tree without a harness. God gave me a second chance and I am taking it. I just don't see why you wouldn't use a SS. I bet I get up in my stand about 60-120 second later than you do. Just doesn't make sense. For all of you that think you will hold onto the tree etc. forget about it, you will be on the ground before you realize you even fell.
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ORIGINAL: The Mind I've hunted every day this year without a safety harness It's called "Darwanism" gentlemen. |
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For all of you that think you will hold onto the tree etc. forget about it, you will be on the ground before you realize you even fell. This is the first year, my partner and I are using an ascender for getting into and out of the tree and we both have made the comment "why haven't we used this all along". With it, I am protected; all the way up the tree, getting into a portable, hunting from the portable, getting out and climbing down". For the extra $60 (you can get them much, much cheaper), and the rope, it is well worth it. |
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I've hunted every day this year without a safety harness The above satement from.........."The Mind". Jeff |
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Worry more about the auto accident going to your hunting area. Worry more about being overweight and in poor health. Worry more about getting shot by a fellow hunter.
The chances of falling from a tree stand are very, very slim. Should I wear one ? Probably. Do I ? Rarely. My perrogative, my choice. I'm a middle aged man in good shape and health, I wear my seat belt, I eat healthy and I excercise four to five days a week at least. That I don't wear a safety belt in the woods is a choice that I make because I'm comfortable where I am. I do have a very good safety harness that cost $100 I believe, I just don't wear it very often. If you want to be really safe, don't climb a tree. Or don't go hunting. Or wear a helmet. |
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If you want to be really safe, don't climb a tree. Or don't go hunting. Or wear a helmet. I'm not sure how a helmet could be safer then a harness.:eek: |
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Worry more about the auto accident going to your hunting area. I'm not sure one three people drivers operating a vehicle will sustain the type of injuries that a person that falls from a stand will sustain, or if one in three hunters will get shot during their lifetime.:eek: |
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yeah, yeah, yeah.....
Reminds me of the guy bragging about being 23-0 and ranked number 1 in the world at Russian Roulette. Have a safe and Happy Thanksgiving. Jeff |
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I'll hunt my way, you hunt yours. BobCo19-65I highly doubt those numbers.
How many guys posting on this thread are fat bastards that are more likely to die of a heart attack than falling from a tree stand ? how many of the people responding here smoke cancer causing cigarettes or chew cancer causing tobacco or are alcoholics ? in fact, the reason most guys falls i'd bet is because they're overweight and are not in good physical shape. anyway, i'll hunt my way you hunt yours. i encourage everyone to wear a safety belt, it is the safest thing to do. and eat right, and excercise and wear your seat belt and drive the speed limit and watch for deer along the road too. |
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I run 20 miles a week. I don't smoke or use tobacco products. I am 6'1" and weigh 191 lbs. I am an ex-collegiate baseball player and I was a PGA Professional.
That being said..... It's no big deal to me if you don't wear your harness. I just don't want any kids to see your post and think it's "OK" not to wear one. I'll ask THIS, though......How good is your insurance? No chance us other guys will have to pay if you fall, is there? Jeff |
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Ya know, all that exercise, eating right, and driving the speed limit, will turn into a big waste of time the instant you fall. I really hope that the people who care about you can talk some sense into you.
I know people like you. One of my friends does the same thing. He says that because his stand is so high, he is too scared to fall asleep. I've tried talking to him but he refuses. I guess some people's elevators just don't quite make it all the way up. |
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Iv hunted 2 times from a stand and dont have a safety harness. On the way there the first day i said to myself. I hope the guy has a saftey harness. But he didnt. Im thinking aboutbuying one. Its just i dont own a stand and havnt gotten around to buying one.
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Worry more about the auto accident going to your hunting area. Worry more about being overweight and in poor health. Worry more about getting shot by a fellow hunter. I suspect The Mindto beno more than 14 years old. His body may be but definetly not the mind. I'm envisioning a Bevis & Buthead type. |
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As long as he has good health insurance who cares? I really don't want to be chipping in on the medicare bill though. The fat slob comment was ignorant by the way. A good friend and hunting buddy of mine, might argue that one. He is in his early 30's, played college football at a Div I school, still works out and is in great shape, is quite athletic and strongas well. He fell trying to adjust his climber, right before he hooked up his safety belt. A concussion, and broken pelvis gave him a new outlook. All the strength and athleticism in the world isn't going to help, if you fall you'll hit the ground, there is no grabbing onto a branch, the tree the stand. Bottom line, it is this fellas decision, he isn't going to change his mind so big deal. I would however ask that if you do ever fall and you can still type please let us know so I can say I told ya so.
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I still have a good spare. If you want it PM me.
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Hey Mindless, that "fat bastard" statement was ignorant and uncalled for. What ever age you are, grow up! Hunt without a harness, that will get you something. Your choice.
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Oh yea, I forgot, the word is spelled prerogative.;)
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Most times its the young guys that don't use safety harnesses. They have the mind set that they will live forever and nothing can happen to them. I think if you have a family at home your being very selfish not using one. I would hate it for my family more than for myself. I would hatefor them to have totake care of me day after day and getting cheated out of many things because of my stupidity and hardheadedness.Nothing like being a rebel and looking death in the face I guess.
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RE: Another falls and is in a body cast.
I wear one all the time.
I want to hunt for years to come. A.D.D. I also have a spare harness if you want one,PM me and I'll send it to you |
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Four the last 4 years I've written threads on this board about using rope and ascenders for fixed positions treestands; I've outlined in detail how it works, how to set it up, where to get the ascender and the rope, etc.
BobCo19 is the only other climber on this board that I've heard of that tried it. As I recall he was one of the board members that was very curious about the ascender threads that I wrote. Good for you, Bob. Spread the word, my friend. You may save a life...or more than one. Here the facts: Using an ascender can eliminate 99.9999 percent of the chance of falling from your treestand and being seriously injured. Yes, you can still fall, but the ascender stops your fall no matter where you are in the climb, whether your 3 feet off the ground, half way to the stand platform, climbing into or out of the stand platform, (which is where most fall occur), etc. Like BobCo10-65, you will wonder how anyone would ever climber without a full body harness and the simple system of using an ascender and a piece of rope to virtually eliminate the risk of serious injury from fixed position treestand hunting. I use it on all of my fixed position stands ALL the time. Guys, pay attention to what BobCo19-65 posted after using the ascender system that I've been writing about the past years: With it, I am protected; all the way up the tree, getting into a portable, hunting from the portable, getting out and climbing down". For the extra $60 (you can get them much, much cheaper), and the rope, it is well worth it. Here's what it looks like. It costs only $35, fits in the palm of your hand, and operates silently. It bites the rope if you fall and stops your fall...but it will easily slide upward and only upwards as you climb. When you go to climb down it has a release that allows you to simply slide it down the rope with you as you climb down...but no matter what, if you happen to fall, it engages, bites the rope and stops your fall.  Here's link where you can actually buy one. www.mgear.com Do a simple search for "Ropeman Mark II Ascender" Item #635000 And no folks, I have no interest in the website, nor do I sell the stuff in any way shape or form. It is just that the idea for hunters is so remarkably effective that I cannot help but want to share it. If anyone needs help, shoot me an email. |
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ORIGINAL: The Mind I've hunted every day this year without a safety harness Mine? - I am looking forward to bowhunting again and again. Thelittle extra time taken by goingup and down belted-in is the best & cheapest insurance investment I've ever made... -fsh |
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Another cheaper alternative to the ascender is a prusic hitch and a rope.
The prusic hitch is the knot that seat of the pants uses and easily slide up and down a rope but stops cold when pulled from the business end. It's a simple and easy to tie knot. I'll try to find an illustration and post it. PS: guys please be very careful if you use steel screw in steps. Big Country, A good friend and member here fell this year while climbing into a stand that the landowners son hung last year before dawn. A treestep pulled out only 8 feet up and he landed on his feet. For a few seconds he thought everything was OK but then he felt something running down his leg (blood).He caughta treestep on his way down and competely severed is bicep, his deltiod muscle and part of his tricep. He pulled the main artery partly out of his arm but somehow it wasnt severed (or he'd be dead). As it was he almost bled out before getting to the hospital where they gave him 4 pints of blood. Th good news is that he's healing well and should recover fully. The point of the story is that the treestep (ameristep) hooked him only a few feet down. Something that could still happen with an ascender if it hadnt been kept very tight. If you uyse screw in steps, consider the rubber coated types like Deer Me or go to the hardware store and get some rubber caps for the end of those steps. have over a hundred Game tracker steps and they have the same sharp edge as the Ameristeps. I came across some heavy rubber end caps a few years ago in a bargain binthat are supposed to glow in the dark. They dont glow anymore but after my buddy's experience, I'm only using the steps that have the caps till I get em on the rest of my steps |
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ORIGINAL: The Mind I'll hunt my way, you hunt yours. BobCo19-65I highly doubt those numbers. How many guys posting on this thread are fat bastards that are more likely to die of a heart attack than falling from a tree stand ? how many of the people responding here smoke cancer causing cigarettes or chew cancer causing tobacco or are alcoholics ? in fact, the reason most guys falls i'd bet is because they're overweight and are not in good physical shape. anyway, i'll hunt my way you hunt yours. i encourage everyone to wear a safety belt, it is the safest thing to do. and eat right, and excercise and wear your seat belt and drive the speed limit and watch for deer along the road too. I usually don't reply to stuff this ignorant, consider yourself "lucky" I suppose. |
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Well I am 6'03" and weigh 260. I think that I could be close to a fat bastard. I used to chew a can and a half a day for 10 years but recently gave it up. I drink a 12 pack of beera day on average and could call myself a functioning alcoholic if i had to. I wear my seat belt. I wear my safety belt as well. I can still enjoy all of my bad habits because I wear one. I was saved from 20+ earlier this year and have been able to enjoy everything sinc3e then from my own 2 feet as well as see everyone in my life on Thanksgiving. I usually don't reply to stuff this ignorant, consider yourself "lucky" I suppose. |
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vc1111, thank`s for the link to that product. I just ordered two of them, and 60m of good rope.
As mentioned several times, it only takes 1 second for something really bad to happen. After my fall this year, I will NEVER go up or down a tree again without an ascender.....I just thank God that I am still here to make that choice! BTW, for "The Mind".......this is not a lecture brother, just something to think about............I am in very good health, and can still benchpress the state of Rhode Island, but that did not help me one bit when I fell from less than 7 feet this year. I literally came very close to dying due to loss of blood. That in itself does not bother me, what does bother me ALOT is what I put my wife through. 700 miles from home getting blood pumped into me as fast as they could get it in me, and hours of reconstructive surgery while my poor wife sat at home scared out of her mind......not a good thing for her to go through! I was lucky, THIS TIME, I may not get back full range of motion in my arm, but I already have enough motion to get by fairly well. Being an outfitter, and having hung somewhere around 2000 treestands in my life, I figured I was smart enough to NOT let something like this happen to me....I was wrong, and I ALMOST paid the ultimate price for it. Nobody is bulletproof........... Just something to think about when you are going up a tree. |
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I am glad I'm not a mod on this board or I would really have the urge to hit the ban button.
I'll continue to wear my harness regardless |
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RE: Another falls and is in a body cast.
ORIGINAL: vc1111 Four the last 4 years I've written threads on this board about using rope and ascenders for fixed positions treestands; I've outlined in detail how it works, how to set it up, where to get the ascender and the rope, etc. BobCo19 is the only other climber on this board that I've heard of that tried it. As I recall he was one of the board members that was very curious about the ascender threads that I wrote. Good for you, Bob. Spread the word, my friend. You may save a life...or more than one. Here the facts: Using an ascender can eliminate 99.9999 percent of the chance of falling from your treestand and being seriously injured. Yes, you can still fall, but the ascender stops your fall no matter where you are in the climb, whether your 3 feet off the ground, half way to the stand platform, climbing into or out of the stand platform, (which is where most fall occur), etc. Like BobCo10-65, you will wonder how anyone would ever climber without a full body harness and the simple system of using an ascender and a piece of rope to virtually eliminate the risk of serious injury from fixed position treestand hunting. I use it on all of my fixed position stands ALL the time. Guys, pay attention to what BobCo19-65 posted after using the ascender system that I've been writing about the past years: With it, I am protected; all the way up the tree, getting into a portable, hunting from the portable, getting out and climbing down". For the extra $60 (you can get them much, much cheaper), and the rope, it is well worth it. Here's what it looks like. It costs only $35, fits in the palm of your hand, and operates silently. It bites the rope if you fall and stops your fall...but it will easily slide upward and only upwards as you climb. When you go to climb down it has a release that allows you to simply slide it down the rope with you as you climb down...but no matter what, if you happen to fall, it engages, bites the rope and stops your fall. Here's link where you can actually buy one. www.mgear.com Do a simple search for "Ropeman Mark II Ascender" Item #635000 And no folks, I have no interest in the website, nor do I sell the stuff in any way shape or form. It is just that the idea for hunters is so remarkably effective that I cannot help but want to share it. If anyone needs help, shoot me an email. I assume if I bought this, I would need the rope to go along with it, but how do I use it effectively? Climb into the tree and secure the rope, and THEN use it from there on out? I'm just not getting how to use it. [&:] I have a beautiful wife and 3 wonderful kids I would like to come home to after a long day of hunting. If something happened to me, the only person who would know I was out hunting would be my wife, and she wouldn't be concerned until I didn't come home for a long, long time... Thanks in advance! Tim |
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ban me for what ? I am not breaking the law by not wearing a safety belt in a tree. As vc1111 I think pointed out most falls are not from the stand but rather climbing into the stand and leaving the stand where a safety belt would have made no difference.
I guess my point is we all live dangerous lives. Not wearing your seat belt in your car (I do) eating poorly, not excercising, letting your body go downhill, driving fast, smoking or drinking too muchand things like that. I don't do any of the above things, many of you do, so it puts things into prespective is all. Remember I am 100% legal in choosing not to wear a safety harness. I think its great people who do use one. Maybe I will in the future, its a good thing to do. |
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ORIGINAL: The Mind ban me for what ? Moderator, please lock this forum? it's going nowhere and has lost focus on the topic. I am really interested in the mgear product too. Would vc1111 care to start a new thread? |
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Do you really need to ask? No and no are the answers. You want me to give you some good advice ? Don't drink Don't smoke Don't get fat Stay in shape Wear your seat belt Wear hearing protection when shooting or running a chainsaw Don't drive recklessly Wearing your treestand safety belt after driving recklessly to your hunting area without your safety belt, having a hangover from the night before and puffing cancer sticks, struggling to get your fat out of shape body into the stand and wearing your safety belt for safety ? Doesn't that sound ironic ? And then lecture me for being unsafe ? Are you serious ? |
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Isn't it ironic that someone who goes by the handle The Mind could be so stupid. Talk about an oxy moron.
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ORIGINAL: MOTOWNHONKEY Isn't it ironic that someone who goes by the handle The Mind could be so stupid. Talk about an oxy moron. Don't worry The Mindless, I am on your side. I am totally against the seatbelt law, the helmet law (over 21,) and high tax rates on alcohol and smokerettes. I beleive that people should have the choice to do what they want to do with their lives. I think what has most of the people on this board so perplexed is that you are such a advocate of health and saftey, you follow all of the "rules" for a better life, except one; wearing a saftey harness in tree stand on a rainy day with muddy boots. I think I speak for all of us here when I ask why? If you are so carefull when handling power tools, driving, and what you eat and drink, why did you choose a tree stand saftey harness as the ONE saftey precaution to ignore? Is there something that I am missing? Is there some cosmic formula that states if I follow all of the life advice that you offer that I am 100% guarateed to NEVER fall out of a tree stand? One would beleive that a person who excersized so much caution in his life would ALSO excersize that caution in the tree stand. One would also beleive that one who excersizes carelesness in a tree stand would also exercise the same carelesness in the rest of his life. If one is something othar than that, they are either a scitsofrenic, or full of $H!t. I think you are probably the latter with a slight case of the former. So come on bad boy! Put your money where your mouth is! Post a picture of your bad self so the world can see the perfect specimen of a tree stand climber! |
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