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badshotbob 11-12-2005 08:51 PM

My Buck knife broke
 
Not sure where to post this.

I've had the same Buck knife for 20 years. This knife has field dressed many of deer. In the field today, my trusty friend broke. I was separating the pelvic bone as I've done many times and the tip broke off - about a quarter inch.

My question: Are Buck knives backed up with a lifetime warranty? Anyone else have experience with getting them replaced if they are?

MDManiac 11-12-2005 08:52 PM

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I remember looking it up and i think they are covered by a lifetime...but dont quote me on that..

nubo 11-12-2005 08:58 PM

RE: My Buck knife broke
 
A very good friend of mine broke his buck knife a couple season's back and I'm sure it was 10 yrs old .He returned it and they sent him a new one with no question's asked .
I definately do believe that they'll warranty your knife .

nubo

MOTOWNHONKEY 11-12-2005 09:14 PM

RE: My Buck knife broke
 
I never seen that done without a bone saw can you elaborate on how you di it.

coyote170 11-12-2005 09:20 PM

RE: My Buck knife broke
 
When Lowes was selling Buck the store stood behind them not Buck,it would be worth a call to them!

badshotbob 11-12-2005 10:05 PM

RE: My Buck knife broke
 

ORIGINAL: MOTOWNHONKEY

I never seen that done without a bone saw can you elaborate on how you di it.
There's a point about half way from back to front of the pelvic bone that is soft. Put the knife on this spot and whack it with your hand. This'll send it right through, then a good couple swift cranks back and forth (like shifting a car)with the knife will split the pelvic bone.This does leave one hard-boned spot at the top (toward the front of the deer) about the size of a dime that requires a little more umph in cracking it. Usually not a problem but this time the tip just broke - I guess one too many times being used as a chisel rather than a knife.

I guess if I can't get it replaced, I'm not going to complain, it's been a great knife.

Kanga 11-12-2005 11:14 PM

RE: My Buck knife broke
 
I had a buck knife and used it for over 10 years the blade had been sharpened that many times it was less than 1/2 the original size.
The blade ended up breaking I got in contact with Buck and they said send it back, I told them that the knife had been used and abused in the time I had it.

A few weeks after I sent it too them a brand spankin new one turned up with a note thanking me for using their knife.

Buck and Old Timer are the only knivesI will use.

ShadowAce 11-13-2005 12:10 AM

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Yep. Using the knife as a chisel tends tobe pretty hard onthem. I did one like that also. Make sure to tell them exactly how you broke it, OK?;)

DarkDawg 11-13-2005 04:12 AM

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i just bought a buck special knife i believe it was called...
its my first hunting knife..i havent been able to use it yet but i like the weight and looks of it..
my dad had his for awhile and thats the only reason i got the same one.

davidmil 11-13-2005 04:21 AM

RE: My Buck knife broke
 
I have 4 of them but never really use them. I do most of my gutting with a little folding Gerber gator pocket knife. I carry one old small Buck in my pack for a backup.

jerseyhunter 11-13-2005 04:43 AM

RE: My Buck knife broke
 
I just put it on the bench grinder and re work the tip, making sure it doesn't get to hot and cooling it often.

voodoochild 11-13-2005 07:03 AM

RE: My Buck knife broke
 
Well,if they dont replace it,just grind a new tip on it,dont heat it up too much while grinding,keep dipping it inwater.If it gets to hot it will change the hardness. then resharpenit... and then use a buffing wheel on a dremel to polish. and ...you got your trusty Friend back.....Good luck

Snood Slapper 11-13-2005 07:23 AM

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I'd say if you been usingit in that fashion for 20 years you've got your money out of it.
Not to sound crappy about this (it is your knife, do what you want with it) but this is a HUGE pet peave of mine when it comes to knives. It just amazes me that people expect their knife to perform tasks it is not meant to do, and when it fails, even though they've done the same thing with it many times over, they think it is somehow the knife's fault and therefore the manufacture should replace it.

Knives are for cutting; not chopping, chiseling, digging, screwing, pryingetc. (unless you're in an emergency/survival situation). I went through a lot of pocket knives when I was younger, and I remember I broke one while helping my Grandpa around the farm. For my birthday he replaced it and told me a knife is a tool, just like a hammer is for hammering, a knife is for cutting. If you use it for what it was designed for, it'll last you a lifetime. If you don't, you'll keep breakin' them. He was right.

Don't ask them to replace that knife. Buy a new one you like...and a pelvic saw.You're rightnot to complain - $50 for another Buck;if that one lasted that long doin' that, it is obviously a good bet.

Nevertheless, here is the website for Buck Warranty info. Buck is a good company and will probaby send you a new knife,but it clearly states that the warranty is only for defects in the materials for life - not misuse, which I would catagorize this as. http://www.buckknives.com/warranty.php

bawanajim 11-13-2005 08:45 AM

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If you want to keep your knife and reuse it PM me and I will fix it for you.If you send it back I am sure they will replace it with a new one they are a great company ,but they will destroy your old one .
Do not try to grind & cool it with water you need to use hot oil to keep from making it brittle.

Take a look at Gerber's new knives they are all made in China.I refuse to pay American dollars for Chineese quality.Gerber was a great knife but not any more.

WV Hunter 11-13-2005 09:42 AM

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I did the exact same thing to a buck knife I have about 15yrs ago. I was trying to split the pelvis and the tip broke off. I had my unlce re-work the tip of the knife rounding it out some, and it is a great skinning knife now. After that I learned that you don't actually need to split the hock the majority of the time, and if you do...do it later with a better tool for the job. :eek:
I would keep the knife, and have someone re-work the tip however you like. If you sent it back, they would probably replace it, but that knife has alot of sentimental value, and in reality is probably better quality than what you would get back.

voodoochild 11-13-2005 08:06 PM

RE: My Buck knife broke
 
You can grind it and keep it cool with Water i am a Tool Maker ,and i have sharpened Thousands of knifes,cutters and blades of every sort for the last Twenty Years,,Hot Oil? what are making Fries???

badshotbob 11-13-2005 08:27 PM

RE: My Buck knife broke
 

ORIGINAL: Snood Slapper

I'd say if you been usingit in that fashion for 20 years you've got your money out of it.
Not to sound crappy about this (it is your knife, do what you want with it) but this is a HUGE pet peave of mine when it comes to knives. It just amazes me that people expect their knife to perform tasks it is not meant to do, and when it fails, even though they've done the same thing with it many times over, they think it is somehow the knife's fault and therefore the manufacture should replace it.

Knives are for cutting; not chopping, chiseling, digging, screwing, pryingetc. (unless you're in an emergency/survival situation). I went through a lot of pocket knives when I was younger, and I remember I broke one while helping my Grandpa around the farm. For my birthday he replaced it and told me a knife is a tool, just like a hammer is for hammering, a knife is for cutting. If you use it for what it was designed for, it'll last you a lifetime. If you don't, you'll keep breakin' them. He was right.

Don't ask them to replace that knife. Buy a new one you like...and a pelvic saw.You're rightnot to complain - $50 for another Buck;if that one lasted that long doin' that, it is obviously a good bet.
I'm fairly confident that Buck would replace the knife, based on the philosophy of the company alone. I've decided not to but rather replace the knife with another Buck - one of those fancy dual blade/saw gut hook combo things.. argh argh argh!:D

Seriously, it wouldn't be right for me to ask them to replace their knife I've had for 20 years that I've abused, and resharpened many times only to perform flawlessly until now.I remember way back then reading this from the paper that came with the box:

If you are a new Buck knife owner, "welcome aboard." You are now part of a very large family. Although we're talking about a few million people, we still like to think of each one of our users as a member of the Buck Knives Family and take a personal interest in the product that was bought. With normal use, you should never have to buy another.
Now that you are family, you might like to know a little more about our organization. The fantastic growth of Buck Knives was no accident. From the beginning, management determined to make God the Senior Partner. In a crisis, the problem was turned over to Him, and He hasn't failed to help us with the answer. Each product must reflect the integrity of management, including our Senior Partner. If sometimes we fail on our end, because we are human, we find it imperative to do our utmost to make it right. Of course, to us, besides being Senior Partner, He is our Heavenly Father also; and it's a great blessing to us to have this security in these troubled times. If any of you are troubled or perplexed and looking for answers, may we invite you to look to Him, for God loves you.
"For God so loved the world that he gave His only begotten son; that whoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life." John: 3:16


Yep, another Buck Knife for me. ;)

stoneman 11-14-2005 07:20 AM

RE: My Buck knife broke
 
Wow, I never knew that about Buck...they'll get all my knife business just on that.

bawanajim 11-14-2005 07:58 AM

RE: My Buck knife broke
 

ORIGINAL: voodoochild

You can grind it and keep it cool with Water i am a Tool Maker ,and i have sharpened Thousands of knifes,cutters and blades of every sort for the last Twenty Years,,Hot Oil? what are making Fries???
Hey dickweed what does the "o" stand for in O-1 ,"A" in A-2 or maybe you could tell me how to heat treat some 4140 annealed.Take a couple more metallurgy classes before you talk down to me about heat treating Tool Steels.

voodoochild 11-14-2005 08:15 AM

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Yes Sir ,the "O" stands for Oil Hardened in O-1 and the A-stands forAir Hardened ,4140 is heat treated in a furnace to about 62- 64 Rockwell or you can buy it preheat treatedwhich can be around35 -40 Rockwell hardness,We do this everyday at my work...He is not trying to heat treat his knife,the water coolingis to keep the same temper as the rest of the blade as he grinds it,and not to change the monocular structure of the steel......... DICKWEED.;)

bawanajim 11-14-2005 08:20 AM

RE: My Buck knife broke
 
Maybe you could tell me aboutsome steels that are water quenched.

voodoochild 11-14-2005 09:29 AM

RE: My Buck knife broke
 
Im not trying to disrespect you... he doesn't need to harden the blade its already heat treated,i was telling him to use water to keep it cool so it don't change hardness,and yes oil is better for harden steel but any liquid like water or oil will quench a steel quick and make it surface hard,but the blade is already hard,the water is to keep it cool,oil takes longer to cool than water,oil heats slower but holds heat longer, making water soluble liquids better coolants,for keeping materials cool while grinding,sorry to argue with you I'm sure you know what your talking about but i think we were misunderstanding each other... Good luck hunting this Year...

superflyhunter 11-14-2005 09:53 AM

RE: My Buck knife broke
 
Yeah a friend of mine did the exact same thing, sent it in and got a new blade.

by23856 11-14-2005 09:54 AM

RE: My Buck knife broke
 
Yes, they will either replace the whole knife or the blade, at their descretion.

I had the exact same thing happen to me, I told them it broke when I got it stuck inbetweentwo bones. The replaced the blade, but the handle and all was still the one I sent them. That was fine with me, since the knife had sentimental value, I feel as if the sentiment is still there. I would have lost that attachment if they replaced the whole thing.

bawanajim 11-14-2005 11:55 AM

RE: My Buck knife broke
 

ORIGINAL: voodoochild

Im not trying to disrespect you... he doesn't need to harden the blade its already heat treated,i was telling him to use water to keep it cool so it don't change hardness,and yes oil is better for harden steel but any liquid like water or oil will quench a steel quick and make it surface hard,but the blade is already hard,the water is to keep it cool,oil takes longer to cool than water,oil heats slower but holds heat longer, making water soluble liquids better coolants,for keeping materials cool while grinding,sorry to argue with you I'm sure you know what your talking about but i think we were misunderstanding each other... Good luck hunting this Year...
You know steel & I know steel but you tell these guys to just dip it in water and they will.Its a shame to ruin a good knife like that.Once they turn it blue and dip it its done.I told him to send it to me and I will fix it right ,no big deal.

Yea sorry about the dickweed too.


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