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Smitty 1,
That was cyclone that made that statement. I was just quoting him, I am interested in any other comments on the subject though. First time I have heard that...Fletch Good Luck All....Fletch |
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How bout this one... I've know a guy who stops eating meat when preparing for a hunt. He claims the reason deer smell us so strongly is because of their natural fear of "meateaters". Claims deer can smell if you've been eating meat....WOW...What next... Good Luck All....Fletch <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' size=2 id=quote> Thats a very popular belief among the native americans around here. The Chippewas wouldn't eat meat for three days before going on a whitetail hunt. I've heard of other tribes across the country who did the same. The Chippewa hunters would also cover their entire body with mud from head to toe. I guess scent elimination has been practiced alot longer than we think.  "Nocked,cocked & ready to rock" |
RE: OLD WIVES TALES...Let's Here 'em!
In reply to Eye Contact:
Go into a local shopping center and sit down. Pick out a person and stare at that person in the eye. Then see how long it talkes that person to look at you. If your honest a minute or less would not be uncommon. If you apply this to wildlife you should also consider that the wildlife we hunt are far more sensitive in every area than are we. Every animal that I ever made direct eye contact with . . . has jumped my string and unfortunately in 39 years of hunting there have been a few. In the last five years every deer that shot at that I didn't make eye contact with did not jump my string. Including the doe I shot September 21 st. Bowhunter |
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Smitty...while I agree with you that bucks often take a dump after rising from their bed, I must add that ALL deer do this and I've never heard that a buck does it so he can locate the area again. What, do you think he might get lost? Most often if a buck is bedded down, it is within the core of his home range and I can promise you he knows that area like the back of his hoof and has no need to take a crap so he can find his way back to bed at night. I don't know about the personal habits of most folks but whenever I wake up in the morning I have to empty my bowels, not so I can find my way back to the bathroom but because my gut is full of waste...why wouldn't deer do the same? Also, you've shot three antlered does???? Holy cow...what are the odds of that? You must have had some bizarre genes passing around the gene pool of your deer herd. And you had to put your "doe" tag on them? My tags are either antlerless or antlered so I'm assuming that in my state I would have had to put my buck tag on the antlered doe. And when you said that does rub their heads to relieve the itching...what itching are you referring to? You also stated that in NY you can see the deer exhale and that is when you shoot? The next time I have deer come by my stand, I'll have to check out to see if this is possible. I have a hard time believing that one.
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How 'bout this common one:
My bow shoots 300 fps; ain't no deer jumpin' that string!!! I had a guy say it to me yesterday! We were discussing our bows, and told him mine was shooting my hunting arrow through a chrono at 276 fps. He told me that I don't have to worry about anything jumping my string. Puleeze! Anybody ever watched those hunting videos where they'll make a mark where the deer's back was before the bow shot, and then show how far he can drop before the arrow reaches its target? Discipline -- not desire -- determines destiny. |
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Oh, oh, oh! Here's another good one:
Them Mathews bows are more expensive than other company's bows; they gotta pay for all that slick advertising! Excuse me...!?! You must not have priced a new Hoyt, nor a new Parker, nor a new Bowtech, nor a new PSE, nor a new... Discipline -- not desire -- determines destiny. |
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The temperature does have something to do with "buck rutting activity". It may have nothing to do with when the does come into estrous but buck activity will increase with a pre-rut cold front.
Jimmy - crapping under your stand will surely ruin it. If the wind is right you could dump 50 ibs of crap and human hair under your stand and still get your buck. But what happens that night when you are home, or the next day - any buck in the area will smell it, and the next time you hunt it you will have slim pickins. I believe 90% of the deer we get busted by bust us when we are gone. They poop to find there way home??????<img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_question.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_clown.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> |
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How about the frost triggers the rut I love that one
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While the velvet is new and still carrying blood to the antlers, bucks are known to lightly scratch their antlers and cap on small branches. However, being a buck is highly protective of his antlers while in velvet, which is actually a layer of blood vessels that feed the antlers and enables their (antlers) size, I doubt that a buck is going to roughly rub its antlers against any hard object. It has been said that a buck's antlers itch when the velvet is no longer needed and has died, and then a buck will scratch his head against a tree, sapling, etc. Maybe they do but, to me, it does not make sense that the antlers will itch. The blood flow to make the velvet is completely shut off and the antlers are now solid bone. Does bone itch? As for normal rubs, I believe they are only made as the buck removes the dead velvet and shines his antlers in preparation for his display to other bucks and does, and to strengthen his neck for imminent battles. He also practices battling, on brush and small saplings |
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The color of a bucks antlers are determined by the type of tree he rubs... False.
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Once a spike buck, always a spike buck. What a joke, when did you ever shoot a 200lb 4 yr old spike. In fact in a collage university test a 1 1/2 yr old spike turned into a 22 point NT in 4 years.
about the freezing water topic,Hot water needs to cool down to the same temp as the cold water does at one point, at that point its no different that the cold water when it was put in the cold and just takes longer to freeze. the thing is misquoted more than not. the truth is hot water has a more rapid rate of temp loss due to the fact that the more the delta T is the greater the heat loss. |
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c903...I agree with you whole heartedly about the bucks and their rubs but my question to Smitty was why would a "does" head itch.
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That killing a 10 pointer is more satisfying than killing a mature doe<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
Hot water evaporates more quickly creating it's own wind flow pattern across its surface. This wind chill creates a colder environment and yes it will freeze faster- we have done this experiement several times and it has always happened. |
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