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i got permission to hunt some good farmland i helped the farmer out alot during the off season and he has the son in law that as a person is really cool but when it comes to hunting he is just dumb about things like last night me and a friend just drove threw the buildings and stopped and talked with the farmer told him what we were going to do spot and stalk well we see this doe out in the field so we are about 40 yards from the doe when the son in law drives up its almost dark and he said that he has to go see if he has shooting lanes in his stand and then my friends dad has a stand up its in a prime spot well the son in law went farther back in the woods and cut him off and then moved my friends dads stand with out asking him he will do almost anything to screw the place that u are hunting up and the only time he shows up is to go hunting and not help oout with chorus like i do even when the land owner ask him to come in help he is always busy until we are done with work and we can go bowhunting sorry for being so long i am really mad im not sure what i should do

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Itsnot yourland. Either deal with it, or find another place to hunt. you can try and talk to them about it, but just dealing with it is the best choice. Its only a deer.

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I guess I would try talking with him, try to encourage him first I know it would be hard to do but I would try encourageing him about different hunting tactics and hunting stuff and then break the news to him.

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I would politely explain to the farmer the situation and how much the son in law screwed things up. I would explain to the son in law (in not so polite of a manner) how wrong it is to mess with someone else's stand when they have permission to hunt the land too. Then I'd try to work it out to hunt when the son in law wasn't there. If this doesn't work out, I'd find other land to hunt and not be available for chores at the previous place. I personally only hunt land where I have exclusive rights. This is not hard to do. Whenever a farmer gives me permission, I always ask who else hunts the land. If other people hunt the land, I thank the farmer and tell him I don't go on land where others hunt because I don't want to mess up their hunting and I don't care to have mine messed up. I have been given exclusive rights to more land than I could ever hunt myself and get other hunters to take care of the farmer's deer problems. All stay pretty happy that way. Good luck with your PITA.

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Because the guy is the farmers relative you will end up with the short stick. Ignor it if you can.

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Did somebody steal the 'period' button off your keyboard? :D

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Deal with it and try to talk with the guy, also try to find your .......botton on the comp hahaha just .

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I pretty much agree with the above statement. You are pretty much in a no win situation. I would attempt to make the best of it.

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I know it sucks, but like others have said you have to just make the best of it since its not your land. The son-in-law is family, so his side will probably be favored over yours.

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Son in law wins this battle

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bite your toung and keep doing what you have been, have you heard of carma comes around goes around you will get yours and he will get his

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As all have said, the son-in-law will win even though its not cool to move someone's stand. I seriously doubt I would do any hunting there after a move like that.

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He's family, you're not. You're screwed. Did you say that you helped the farmer with chorus? LOL

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I definitely wouldn't take it to the landowner, as everyone has said, blood is thicker than water...

I would try to talk to the son in law... if that doesn't work, it's pretty much a done deal, you'll have to learn to hunt in harmony with him or find other land. How big is the woods, is it possible that you can discuss sectioning it off with the other guy? Maybe you guys take one side, he takes the other... mark it off with a trail marker or two.... I don't know, just a suggestion. Like someone else said though, Karma can be a killer. If you aren't a courteous hunter, it's likely to come around and bite you in the you know what, so be nice to the guy, be courteous to him and see if it gets you anywhere. It sounds like you're kinda young, which may be why he's pushing his way around, but try to be confident and talk as hunters, not adult/kid... you never know, maybe it will work.

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The son in law clearly just does not like you. Sure, I'm a female you figure drama, but, I encounterd a situation similar to this once ( not myself I'm blonde ,cute ,with big (.) (.) so I dont have problems) my opinon find someplace else. UNLESS the son in law is very young and hasn't hunted for long at all & he's honestly just clueless, if that is the case be super cool and explain what he hasn't learned yet. maybe at a local bar over a few miller lites :) , then again if the land isn't worth all that then just mooooooooove along

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IMHO. It sounds like this guy is lazy and is riding you coat tails regarding scouting.

I would talk to him about moving the stand and explain not to do that again.

I would then set up some stands in an area you don't plan to hunt and even set up some mock scrapes and rubs in that area. he most likely will move his stand to that area because he thinks you are on to something. He will stay out of you prime areas hopefully and you will have a good laugh at the same time.

I do agree that talking to the land owner will do you no good. Keep up with helping the land owner out if you want because you know deep down inside that it's the right thing to do.

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well he filled his buck tag out of the spot that he moved the stand so i hope that he is done for the season he is in his like mid 20s the spot has alot of big bucks and has hunted for acouple years but he still has some doe tags to fill and i got afeeling he is going to hunt a stand that is in a little patch of woods that some of the bucks hang out at its real thick but we have not said anything to either of them and the guy scouts the land but im not sure if he knows what to look for cause all of his stands are on the field edge with bait piles and now we found out he might of shot a doe out of a stand me and my friend put up and if that is true we will be moving the stand and we never tell them what we see or where we have the treestands we but before season started when we were all hang stands we told where we had stand but were never doing that again

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i have to say you are getting a good lesson . it may be a bitter pill to swallow but these guys are correct . you cant go against family you will lose. try and discuss this with the farmer and the in law at an oppertune time.

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You are pretty much screwed on this. I would start looking for a new place to hunt. Even if he is done for the year, you will still have to contend with the same problem next season. It really sucks but he is family and your aren't. Best to just move along. If you are willing to help out the farmer with chores, I am sure yuo can find another farmer that is willing to give you premission.

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Everytime cardeer,family is most likely exempt from chores,Find out where he is,and cut him off again,don't let him know where you are,Chain your stand to the tree with a padlock,use a climbing stick,and remove/hide it.You will probably make the farmer mad by insulting his family,but you never know..Maybe you should say something...HOW BAD DO YOU REALLY WANT TO HUNT THERE?I would be upset too,but what else can you do,besides show out,and leave,some people are just IGNORANT,and the son-inlaw sounds like one of them,he probably doesn't have the heart to hunt hard?

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Somebody beat me to it. Anyway you may get lucky and the farmer not like his son-in-law. Just go move his stand.

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People who have farmed all their life know what a good day's work is and in-laws who ride their coattails are not held in high esteem. You have done chores for him and the son-in-law has not. Approaching in the right way can ally the farmer on your side. For instance "Jeez John, the other day when I was moving hay bales for you, heard your son-in-law shot a doe from my tree stand where I planned to hunt bucks. I think I may not be filling my tag this year." Around here, the farmer would straighten the son-in-law out.

Myfriend is a World War II veteran who spent 3 1/2 years in a Japanese Prisoner of War camp. When he told me he and his wife were moving to a retirement apartment, I asked him what day and what time he wanted me there to help. Moving day came round and his eldest daughter and son-in-law lazed around "supervising" while everyone else worked. Myfriend found an old Japanese sabor, he picked up during the war crimes trials, in a trunk in the garage. He asked me if I would like to have it. His son-in-law piped up that he had always thought he would get that. Myfriend looked at him and told him "Coop has done more for Betty and I in the last three years than you have ever done for us." He then proceeded to give me the sabor. I thanked him and then donated it to a local military museum in his name.

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[:-]Oh my!

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whatcha "oh mying" about? I said basically the same thing as the rest of you, just not as dull,long and boring.. I get to the point[:'(]

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I think his "Oh my" was in response to your desription of yourself.