In response to gutshot. He has no kids. He is a firefighter so he does the four on four off thing. So he has time to help scout and such. After all he always has time to hunt. He does however have a wife that I swear is Lucifer in the flesh.[8D]

If your friend doesn’t have time for scouting and helping to set up, he’s out of there. Don’t need a slouch cashing in on my hard work and efforts.

Got to follow the rules or out on his butt he goes

This was a good post for me to read, i am in a similar situation with a friend of mine, he is always to busy to help me scout, hang stands, etc and its been makin me mad, I think im gonna tell him to i only got 2 stands to hunt, so he needs to scout his on places this year.

Well rules are rules and if he has repeatedly broken them wether it was because he shot his first buck, second buck , whatever, then I would not let him hunt. You are trying to better your hunting and he is disregarding your work efforts and direct instructions. If he doesnt get it right from the beggining then whats going to happen if you try another management thing like shooting does only, or what have you, judging from his past mistakes he's just going to do whatever he wants again.The worst part about this is he is your buddy, you are doing him a huge favor and now you are the one that has tomonitor and babysit his actions.

I would take his past actions and call it a lesson learned, the question is have you learned your lesson or not???

Bearklr hit the nail on the head. I would take his advice and speak to your buddy, explain your displeasure and try to convince him to take a doe or a decent buck. But, you have to put yourself in his shoes and imagine the excitement he had when seeing the deer and shooting it. Only 3 years of hunting so don't fault him too much. Just reiterate your management plans and shrug it off.

If all else fails, put him in an area where he cannot do much damage. Friends are friends and good ones are hard to come by!

Your land , your rules .

Hmm, I understand where you are coming from now but when I read your original post I interpreted it this way.

You put him in a stand where there was a big buck running around in the hope that he would get a shot at him. You didn't post, originally, that he wasn't supposed to shoot anything but the big buck. Did you mean to post that but didn't?

If you did tell him to only shoot the big 'un and he shot the little guys then I would be a bit upset as well. I would still let him hunt this year though while giving him explicit instructions to only shoot this or that specific deer or he is just done hunting your property.

Reminds me of a similiar situation. Last yae on a peice of property I have permission to hunt, me and my hunting buddy, we always hunt together, set up four stands. We both hunt out of any stand that we choose there is no his stand my stand. But he has a cousin who loves to hunt but he didn't help with any of the scouting, preparation or such. Well one day I hunt another property and I come home to find my buddy took his cousin over to our property and let him hunt out of a stand that I had just missed a huge 9 pointer the previuos week and he kills a huge 8 that he got mounted. Really chapped my a$$. The guy had the opportunity to scout with us and hunt but he didn't just came in and reaped the rewards[:@]

I've had buddies do all kind of things tome that would be rude and unthinkable in any other area of life but for some reason with hunting they think it's ok. One time one friend who's property I was hunting on put a guest on the only stand I had on the property, one that I owned, had cut the trail, hung the stand and seen deer on. I was entering the stand a little late that morning (traffic) and I see someone I don't know in the stand and I back out and hunt on the ground. We had words about it because (1) I had told him I was coming that morning and would hunt that stand, (2) I didn't know how safe this guest was and he could have shot at the noise of me entering the woods. He didn't understand why I was upset. We didn't speak for over a year but I finally decided to let it go and we've hunted together ever since and he's even more considerate these days than he ever was.

My other buddy is just socially clueless. He is just unaware how much he annoys others with his competitive spirit and selfish ways. He will always take the new water when fishing, best area when hunting and just generally isn't considerate. But I've known him thirty years and have given up trying to change him. I enjoy hunting with him when he comes to hunt and just focus on that aspect and let him have his choice of stands. Sometimes I just want to hunt to be hunting with friends and not just to kill the biggest buck.

I'd just tell him to buy one stand, hang it, and hunt it. Volunteer to help him figure out where to put it and tell him what size restrictions you have and why. Unless he's clueless he should get it. If he's clueless, well decide if you want him in camp or if you want someone who is going to toe the line.