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Crazed Killer 09-17-2005 06:54 PM

Cock vain up or down
 
Those who shoot with feathers. Do you shoot with the cock vain up or down ? Does it matter if you use a drop away?

Washington Hunter 09-17-2005 06:55 PM

RE: Cock vain up or down
 
If you're shooting a drop-away it shouldn't matter, no.

zak123 09-17-2005 07:02 PM

RE: Cock vain up or down
 

ORIGINAL: Washington Hunter

If you're shooting a drop-away it shouldn't matter, no.
This is not always true. I have a Trophy Taker Shakey Hunter and I have to have my cock vane down and to the left. This makes it so one of the vanes is pointing straight up. If I were to shoot them any other way the vanes would hit my rest. The feathers may not be affected by the rest though, buthaving the feathers hit the rest wouldn't do anything good for the arrows flight.

Washington Hunter 09-17-2005 07:10 PM

RE: Cock vain up or down
 
The whole point of shooting a drop away rest is to eliminate as much contact with the arrow as possible. If you're getting contact, especially with your vanes, I would take a look at how you've got the rest set up. You shouldn't get any contact at all.


zak123 09-17-2005 08:13 PM

RE: Cock vain up or down
 

ORIGINAL: Washington Hunter

The whole point of shooting a drop away rest is to eliminate as much contact with the arrow as possible. If you're getting contact, especially with your vanes, I would take a look at how you've got the rest set up. You shouldn't get any contact at all.


This is true, but I am unable to get perfect clearance on my rest without having nocks turned a certain way. If I just stuck my arrows on my string the vanes would hit my cable.

RIStrutStopper 09-17-2005 09:34 PM

RE: Cock vain up or down
 
I've got the same problem as Zak, but its not really a problem.. If I had my cock feather straight up or Straight down, I'd have clearance issues with my cables. I start out with cock vane up but rotate the nock so the vane is angled towards the riser. Its almost like my old fingers set-up for my flipper rest with the cock vane pointing left. I have no clearance problems with my drop away.

mexhuntr 09-17-2005 09:44 PM

RE: Cock vain up or down
 
YOU MUST TUNE YOUR DROP IT SHOULD WORK

ORIGINAL: zak123


ORIGINAL: Washington Hunter

The whole point of shooting a drop away rest is to eliminate as much contact with the arrow as possible. If you're getting contact, especially with your vanes, I would take a look at how you've got the rest set up. You shouldn't get any contact at all.


This is true, but I am unable to get perfect clearance on my rest without having nocks turned a certain way. If I just stuck my arrows on my string the vanes would hit my cable.

MOTOWNHONKEY 09-17-2005 10:47 PM

RE: Cock vain up or down
 
Modern bows are so fast even drop aways are having problems getting out of the way. I have to turn mine a certain way also or will get contact. But at 280 fps. that drop away needs to fly away.

WalMart 09-18-2005 01:51 AM

RE: Cock vain up or down
 
On my old Fred Bear Whitetail II bow, which have a two prong rest, my arrows' cock vane is pointed down.

On my PSE Nitro, which have a Bodoodle Zapper 400 rest, which have three prongs (10,2 and6 o'clock positions)...my arrows' cock vane is pointed straight up.

Use whichever way that works best for you......

Trapper_Hunter 09-18-2005 06:30 PM

RE: Cock vain up or down
 
I got a whisker biscuit.. Mine is pointed up

Drizzu213 09-18-2005 07:35 PM

RE: Cock vain up or down
 

ORIGINAL: zak123


ORIGINAL: Washington Hunter

If you're shooting a drop-away it shouldn't matter, no.
This is not always true. I have a Trophy Taker Shakey Hunter and I have to have my cock vane down and to the left. This makes it so one of the vanes is pointing straight up. If I were to shoot them any other way the vanes would hit my rest. The feathers may not be affected by the rest though, buthaving the feathers hit the rest wouldn't do anything good for the arrows flight.
I suggest that you buy a real drop away like the muzzy zero effect then u can shoot whatever way u like!! your rest is actually a fall away inertia operated not forced out of the way.

heeze gutshot shortee 09-25-2005 07:57 AM

RE: Cock vain up or down
 
Hard Question ..Let me rub it and see.......down!

PABowhntr 09-25-2005 08:20 AM

RE: Cock vain up or down
 
With a drop away I would tend to prefer to shoot cock vane up but with the extra forgiveness that a feather provides I am not sure that it would be as crucial.

goarmy 09-25-2005 10:03 AM

RE: Cock vain up or down
 
The cock feather is just a visual referencethat assures that shooterwhen they nock any tuned arrow, all clearance issues with respect to a choosen rest, cables, etc have been addressed, and arrow flight is consistant with the last. Up, down, sideways, whatever. Traditionally prong rests are typically cock down, side mounted riser rests (old school) where cock out, and small diameter carbon launcher rests were cock up. I have NO experience w/ the drop aways, or whisker bisquit style, so whatever addresses any clearance issues - get-r-done!

Many of us don't even address the cock feather issue, our arrows are dipped (or wrapped) have all one color (usually white or some other bright color) and reference the nock. These arrowsvideo really nice. If you get the angle right, they look like a tracer, and the point of impact on the animal really shows up.


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