Cock vane up or down?
 

I have a new QAD drop away rest and cant remember if it is cock vane up or cock vane down. It seems to shoot the same either way.
Thanks in advance.

RE: Cock vane up or down?
 

It does not matter where you have the cock vane. The important thing is to adjust the vanes so you get fletching clearance.

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Zak thanks alot. I thought that was the case. It did shoot the same up or down.

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lol, you said cock.;)

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It does matter where the vain is exspecially with a traditional rest. Cock vain down. All your arrows will fly more consistant it all shot the same way. ? Why does it have to be called a Cock vain?

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:D

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Is that cock vane, cock vain, or cock vein? [8D]

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He is shooting a drop away rest and no it does not matter which way they are oriented. Just make sure that all are passing though with our touching the rest.

It's called a cock fletch because before there was plastic vanes fletchings were all made from feathers. The feathers are called cock and hen because a male bird is a cock and a female bird is a hen. A single cock has a harem of hens. Thus one cock feather and multiple hen feathers.

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[:-]:D

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I'm a newbie and last weekend out on the walking course my new archery friend that has kind of taken me under his wing tweeked a couple of the nocks on my arrows so the Cock vane flew correctlythrough my rest. When we got back to therange where all the boys hang out I proudly and loudly told everyone that "John fixed my cock vane problem and now I feel much better!":eek:They thought it was funny, John did'nt.

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Just checked my arrow and it is on the bottom!:D

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Mine is down. I thought thats why they called it a cock vane, because it hangs down.:D

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Wrong again. With the speed of todays bows some of the drop aways can't get out of the way quick enough so We we vain down.

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What are you talking about wrong again?

I did say...........
Let me spell it out another way word for word for those that can't read.

It does not matter which way the fletchings are oriented so long as the fletchings are passing through or by the rest with out making any contact with the rest.

In other words experiment shooting your arrows with the fletchings oriented differently. If they make contact one way then don't shoot them that way. If they freely pass with no contact then don't worry about it.


I swear I am talking (typing) to two year olds sometimes.

RE: Cock vane up or down?
 

You could turn your nocks 360degrees why not find one spot that works with all of your arrows? Cock vain down. I swear some people are hard headed like 2 year olds.

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I like my cock vane up...[8D]:eek:

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One of the major benefits of shooting a drop away rest is not having to look when you nock an arrow. If you need to nock a second arrow or nock one quickly you do not need to look at your string and take your eye off the deer, elk or what ever.

That is the point of experimenting to make sure that there is no fletching contact with different fletching orientations.

Another point to a drop away is that there is no set way that an arrow needs to be orientated. Some people like the cock vane up, some down, and some out to the side. If the rest is working properly then a person can shoot any way that they prefer. There is no one specific way (cock vane down) that the arrow needs to be nocked.

If you like to shoot cock vane down then by all means do so but the original question was which way does the cock vane need to go with a QAD ultra rest. And the answer is thet there is no specific way that it needs to go. That is the entire point of what I posted. He isn't shooting a TM hunter rest that requires a cock vane down orientation.

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Boy, this thread went south in a hurry. :)

Though I would tend to agree that it really shouldn't matter what the fletching orientation is with a drop away I think most folks usually end up shooting cock vane up as it gives the best opportunity for clearance on many of the launcher arms.

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It does not matter whch way the feathers are facing when shooting a drop away rest. There is nothing for the fletching to hit when passihe rest.

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Heard there are pills for that now... I wouldn't know, I'm still at the top of my game.

By the way, my odd fletching points to the left... Aint going to catch me saying cock vane... Aw man. Guess I just did. [:o][:o][:-]:D

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I have better luck with my cock vane down. That puts the other 2 up in the clear area above the rest. As long as the rest drops fast enough, there isn't any contact. Witt the cock vane up, the other 2 vanes are angled down at the sides of the rest. That's the way it is on my DZ anyway.

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Exactly, with my hunting set up my bow is shooting 280 fps if my COCK vein isn't down it will hit on occcasion. It's just an opinion on an opinion forum do what ever you want with your cock.

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Bigbulls is correct andcouldnt have made it any clearer.

It DOES NOT matter which vane/feather passes through therest. If you want to make it the cock vane, go ahead, if you want to make a hen fletch go through, go ahead, if you want the cock vane up....GO AHEAD!! Just MAKE SURE you dont have fletching contact. Doesnt matter what kind of rest either, they all need to be checked for and eliminate any fletching contact. (except whisker biscuits and the like)

Also,most drop-aways(if setup properly) should still be able to get out of the way of even the fastest bows. In most cases they are "dropped"by a spring, and the bows forward cable movement. This ensures they are out of the way by the time the fletchinggets there.They are not actually "dropping" but being propelled downward.

Bottom line is, check to make sure you dont have fletching contact (no matter what rest you use). Then orient the fletchings/nock to allow the best clearance possible. Then make sure they are all the same, and shoot.

Have fun---Matt

RE: Cock vane up or down?
 

I have a drop away rest and you can have your arrow cock up or down which ever you prefer.

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It may matter if there is a clearance issue.Clearly you are not having a clearance issue if it is the same either way,but on some drop aways the vane will hit the rest if it is pointed down,so you would need turn the odd color vane up...Isn't that better than the other term...:DJust as finger shooters without deep cutouts have to put the odd color vane to the left,so the two other ones are straight up and down parallel to the riser.On the WB I shoot with the odd color vane up.

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My wife likes my cock vain up to.

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LOL I can't believe I amin my 30'sand laughed ashard (ha) as I did at that post. Then again I did just rent "jackass"

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Well guys, I havent checked this post since I started it. Been busy. But Thank you toeveryone for the help. My arrows fly fine either cock vane up or down. ( or odd fletching ) (I liked that one:D). So I chose up....... no particular reason why..... well maby because my cock up just seems right:D. Well let me also say I LMAO reading all the replys. Good Luck to everyone this season. Thanks again!

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Fletch with four feathers and that's one less thing to worry about.