4 Blade Muzzy and drag question
#1
Fork Horn
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Noble,OK
Posts: 132
4 Blade Muzzy and drag question
Even though I had planned to shoot Snypers this season and probably still will, after reading all the reviews on MUzzy and fixed broadheads I decided to try some out. The statements made about being able to see if your bow was tuned well by shooting fixed broadheads was another. When shooting field points I was dead on at 15, 25 and 35 yards. When shooting the Muzzy I was dead on horizontally but vertically at 15 I was 11/2" low, 25 4" low. Ok! Arrow flight was great and I am hitting where I am aiming, yet low. My question to the troops is. Is this drop normal because of drag or could there be another issue I am not aware of. Any input would be appreciated. The best thing about it is that my pins are set at 15,25 and 35 yards when I move to 10, 20 and 30 yards the Muzzy's are dead on so it is not that big of a problem.
Edited by - jcninokc on 09/27/2002 11:04:59
Edited by - jcninokc on 09/27/2002 11:04:59
#2
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Freehold NJ USA
Posts: 219
RE: 4 Blade Muzzy and drag question
I recently switched to Muzzy 4 blades (from Spitfire 100gr.) and I found that my vertical was off by about 1 1/2" (low) at 20yrds and 3" (low)at 30yrds. I adjusted my sight and now practice using the Muzzy field tips and they fly exactly like their broadheads. I would just suggest adjusting your pins so they reflect actual yardage - you wouldn't want there to be another element of possible confusion when taking the shot that counts.
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#4
RE: 4 Blade Muzzy and drag question
I have never tried the 4 blade Muzzys, but have been told by some awful good hunters that they fly great. I have used 3 blade Muzzys, and 3 blade thunderheads, and they group right with my field points out to 50 yds. Never tried them any further than that. If you are grouping as good with the 4 blades, as you do with field points, I guess just changing your sights is OK. Something does`nt seem right to me, though.
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#5
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Vinton VA
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RE: 4 Blade Muzzy and drag question
Keep in mind their are two kinds of tuning. Paper tuning for the most perfect flight, and group tuning for the best accuracy. These two methods don't always yeild the same results. Bullet holes in paper give you perfect flight, but don't always give you the best groups. You can get your field points and Muzzys to hit in the same place by moving your nock point down or your rest prongs up in very small amounts until both points hit in the same place. This will useually give you a compromise tune. giving very good arrow flight, and very good accuracy.
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#6
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Mishawaka Indiana USA
Posts: 148
RE: 4 Blade Muzzy and drag question
I shoot the 4 blade 100gr and a couple weeks ago took my 3-d out in the field to just check too see that they were okay. Got up in my stand and shot at 20 yds and was dead on same as my field points. Then moved my target back to 30yds and was still right onI have found them to fly very true and don't seem to have any dropage in flight. My question is this what poundage4 is your bow and what type arrows are you shooting I am shooting a Martin bow at 55lbs and carbon arrows I only have one pin for out too 30 and then one for 40 yds which is only for practice I don't shoot that far in the field. Trapping my arrows I am at 272fps with mine. Be safe and PRACTICE!!!!!
#7
Fork Horn
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Noble,OK
Posts: 132
RE: 4 Blade Muzzy and drag question
NCBow. Yes they are both the same grain! 100's. I'm not that dense!!<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
Roundball. I am shooting a PSE Nova at 70# with XX75's 2314. I have never crono'd so I have no idea at what speed I am shooting. My groups are great with the field tips. And like I said I hit were I am aming, just going low with the Muzzy's.
BigCountry they do fly great and I am grouping good with them too, all being lower then my field points. Thanks for all the good input. Season starts Tuesday and I would hate to start messing around with a good thing. When I get a break for blackpowder I will give 5shots suggestion a try and go with the Muzzy's for the second half of the season.
Roundball. I am shooting a PSE Nova at 70# with XX75's 2314. I have never crono'd so I have no idea at what speed I am shooting. My groups are great with the field tips. And like I said I hit were I am aming, just going low with the Muzzy's.
BigCountry they do fly great and I am grouping good with them too, all being lower then my field points. Thanks for all the good input. Season starts Tuesday and I would hate to start messing around with a good thing. When I get a break for blackpowder I will give 5shots suggestion a try and go with the Muzzy's for the second half of the season.
#8
RE: 4 Blade Muzzy and drag question
Most people need to goup tune with bh.
Sometimes for unknown reasons they just fly a little"off"
My field points and Muzzy three blade 100's hit the same hole and that works on my set up.
Yours may or may not do the same.
I would work on tight groups at this point and use the paper to mark my blood trail!
SF
Sometimes for unknown reasons they just fly a little"off"
My field points and Muzzy three blade 100's hit the same hole and that works on my set up.
Yours may or may not do the same.
I would work on tight groups at this point and use the paper to mark my blood trail!
SF
#9
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Schofield WI USA
Posts: 47
RE: 4 Blade Muzzy and drag question
I shoot 4 blade Muzzy 100 gr. and they fly just like my field tips, but my bow is tuned perfectly. According to the Easton Tuning Manual, if your broadheads are hitting below your field tips you need to lower your nocking point, or you can just raise your rest. Do this in 1/16" increments until your broadhead and field tip groups come together and are impacting in the same place.
#10
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Stockton NJ USA
Posts: 119
RE: 4 Blade Muzzy and drag question
I shoot 4 blade muzzys also. They fly close enough to my field points that I just adjusted my sights slightly. Last year I tried to get my bow tuned perfectly and I just couldn't do it to perfection. I'll get my setup tuned in a Hooter Shooter machine after the season is over.
If you are getting good arrow flight and accuracy, should use your broadheads only and set your sights accordingly. Messing around with your setup this close to opening day could lower your confidence at the moment of truth.
If you are getting good arrow flight and accuracy, should use your broadheads only and set your sights accordingly. Messing around with your setup this close to opening day could lower your confidence at the moment of truth.