outdoorsmen

I shot my rocket 78gr. into a foam target to check my point of impact and if blades open. the blades did not seem to open. when i pulled my arrow out of the target the o-ring was still in the orginal position on the head. there were not blade cuts on the paper I was shooting into nor in the foam.
anyone have any answers?

moonge

I have shot rockets into foam before & the head went through. onceI pulle dthem back out the rubber band went back in place as well as the blades. the rockets seem to role the band up the shaft in foam. The head did open, if you could do a cross section of the target you would see this.

I know how you feel but trust me on this one. I have seen this a lot when pulled back out of the target.

Ken/WV

Should I shoot my mechanicals through foam to see if they open? Yes or no?

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outdoorsmen

the foam i shot into held the head inside the target. the arrow did not penetrate far enough to have the broadhead hanging out the opposite side.

Greg / MO

I concur with moonge; I almost would guarantee you that the blades opened, and closed upon extraction. Especially if you're shooting the head I think you are (probably the miniblaster, if it's 78 grains). That head will open on almost anything this side of a piece of notebook paper. I tore the side of a hen turkey's neck off with one, and turkey flesh is surely much softer than foam -- or deer, for that matter.

Discipline -- not desire -- determines destiny.

MATTHEWS

Ive shot rockets for 6 years, and have done many test to see whether or not they are opening. Like moonge says that when you pull the arrows out the o-ring rolls back up onto the blades making it look as if they never open, but I assure you they are.

Texas Hunter

It could be you are not shooting enough force behind
your arrow, I personaly perfer to use mech. heads, you
never have to worry about them opening.

outdoorsmen

I found it odd/unlikely that the o-ring found its way back to the orginal spot where it was before i shot. what are the odds of the o-ring being in the same after i shot?
I shoot plently of KE at 300fps and 370 gr.

fletchdp

I've been shooting the rocket miniblaster 3L (75 grns) for 5 or 6 yrs now and it's a heck of a good broadhead. I have taken hogs up to 185 lbs as well as several of our small texas whitetails (100-140 lbs). I shoot about 68 ft lbs and usually get passthroughs. I agree with the others in that your head is probably opening, then closing when you pull the arrow. I have shot many of these broadheads into my target and the rubber band usually pulls back against the blades when extracted from the target. It seldom ends up exactly in the "slot" but it's close. The head I describe has small "wings" on the end of the blades. The rubber band comes out of the target most of the time... Good Luck All...Fletch

KEEP THE WIND IN YOUR FACE.... FLETCH

Matt / PA

What you need to understand with Rocket....or any tip to rear lever style head is HOW they work.
They are designed with one purpose......to be shot at hair, flesh and blood.
I've shot Rockets into a hard foam 3D target to confirm my suspicions, and they didn't open.......WHY? Because they are not designed to open on a hard non-flexible surface.
In order for the blades to deploy properly and completely they must first encounter a flexible barrier such as hair and hide......this forgiveness of the surface allows the blade tips to clear the outer most diameter of their swing and fully open.......
When you shoot a lever style head into something with no "Give" like foam, wood or steel the blades cannot lever around anything.....the blade tips simply are forced back into the retaining screws and many times blade failure is the result.
This is one of the reasons that this style does so poorly in 5-Shot's Plywood , Tire, and Steel tests.....but also one of the reasons I've had good success on solid bone (spine)hits with them: They went thru the hide and hair FIRST.
I will add also that the effect is exxagerated further as you increase cutting diameter.....One of the reasons (other than the tip) why the Rocket "Steelheads" perform Ok in these tests. They have a very small cutting diameter and a power style point.

If you want to see if they are truly performing as intended, hang a fleixible barrier in front of your foam target.....a peice of raw deer hide would be ideal, but you can get creative.......if they don't open then? I'll eat one.

And Greg.......still a week to go til' the bowseason starts and you had to break out the &quot;Turkey Neck Story&quot; already!? <img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>

But Greg is correct.....if not redundant<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>.....if it will open fully on a Turkey neck that's saying something.



Edited by - Matt / PA on 09/28/2002 10:06:13