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Muzzy's have always done me well but i'm thinking about switching this year. Do you guys have any preference between the regular magnus stingers or the stinger buzzcut? and also 2 or 4 blade? Thanks

Zach

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Stay with muzzy, magnus is a great head but it's not a muzzy.

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I have to disagree with Lou. Muzzy's are indeed a good head, but the stingers don't give up anything. I shoot 100gr. 4-blade stingers. The stingers are definitely sharper out of the pack as well.

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Magnus are way sharper than muzzy by far out of the bow, heck only steelforce is sharper than a magnus. As for penetration I think muzzy out performs them all. I shot the magnus in a field test it did excellant but didn't go farther than the muzzy did. Put it this way if I didn't shoot muzzy, Magnus buzzcut stingers would be there. Both have advantages over each other. Magnus needs little tuning while muzzy needs more than the average head. Either one you choose you can't go wrong, but for my buck it's a muzzy.

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I went from muzzys to stingers. Love both heads, but love stingers better. 2 blade, 100 grain, smooth edge.

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4 blade stingers are tough to beat for an all around head.

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Inoticed last night in a catalog that the buzzcut's listed at 1 1/4" while the stingers listed for 1 1/8". I wonder if it was a missprint?

Hard choice to make between the Muzzys and Stingers, as they are both great heads, but I'm prefering the 4 bladeStingers due to the cut on contact tip and sweet accuracy.

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I disagree. Muzzy's are verygood heads...yes. But I have actually had better results with Magnus original 2 blade 125's. They are awesome heads. I know guys that shoot the Stingers with alot of success and nothing but good to say about them as well.

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Both are great heads. You may also wantto try the new Muzzy Phantoms.

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Lou, plywood is not flesh. Of course the muzzy is gonna go farther, look at the chisled tip. Duh. The Stingers will always have better penetration in FLESH. Why do you think people like me with low poundage, short draw, etc.. bows use cut on contact heads? More penetration than a head with a tip like a muzzy.

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Hey, if 5shot said this, then that's all that needs to be said!! ;)

Magnus Stingers are an unbelievable broadhead....

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I just got some of the Magnus Buzzcut 100 4 blades heads and shot them this weekend. I will say this they are the sharpest heads out of the pack that I have ever used and they fly better then any other head I ever used including Slick Tricks. I would definitly recommend these heads. I cant wait to see what they do while hunting........

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I agree that a cut on contact head will cut through flesh better than the muzzy, but if the muzzy did that to the plywood what would it do a deer if the shot is not perfect. Any broadhead will kill if place in the right spot. Will a magnus cut thru bone or shatter it like a muzzy? If I remember bone is much harder than flesh. Not every shot you make will be perfect. Sure the magnus will make a bigger hole and better bloodtrail, but what if you pull the shot and hit the shoulder what happends then. The magnus has so much cutting surface it will cause friction like it did with the wood in my test. Not saying magnus wouldn't do the job, all I 'm saying is that I want a little insurance if I screw up. I practice every day and am very confident with my shot but one never knows what will happen. If your shooting a heavy arrow at high poundage any broadhead will do. Bottom line the muzzy will go thru flesh like butter, it will also go thru ribs, shoulders and anything else it touches, can your magnus do that? Wheither it's a chisel head or a flat blade like magnus both will go thru flesh, but what about the mistakes we make? I what something that will do the job no matter where I hit him.

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Well, I shot a doe with a 4 blade 100 gr Muzzy last season, and it was a pass through. Not much more penetration to be had there. I am quite certain the Stinger I put on my arrows this year will do the same, but I must say I like the flight characteristics of the Stinger over the Muzzy. I HATE to vote down a Muzzy, but those Stingers are just awesome.

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That says it all right there. I'm not a big Muzzy fan since I had some 4 blade 90 grain heads of theirs that I could not eliminate flyers with and then one bent after hitting a small tree root. In all fairness they sent me a pack of 3 blade 100 grain heads for free when I wrote them expressing my displeasure and they flew a lot better.......I just couldn't get myself to trust them anymore so I got some Stingers.

Fly like darts, spooky sharp, and made 2 big holes in the deer I shot last year.......left a lot of blood and he went 40-50 yards. Can't wait to get my Buzzcuts in this year.

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I shot 100 grain 2 blade Stingers last year for the first time and couldn't have been happier with them. They flew great - 2 shots, 2 complete pass throughs with arrows stuck in the ground halfway up the shaft.

I've got a bunch of replacement blades already so I'm not sure if I'm going to pick up the new Buzzcuts or not. I know back in the day serrated blades were illegal in Illinois. Anyone know if this is still the law??

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i am totaly against serrated edges on broadheads just my opinion though so no one take offence. example say u cut urself with a hand saw just knick ur finger it doesnt bleed much at all if any. now say ur shaving and knick ur face with a razor it deffinately bleeds more. my point is a razor straight edge will pass through causing less friction and give the wound less of a chance of clotting up than a serrated egde will. i'd imagine the bloodtrail would be sparce from a serrated edge also?

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Everyone is avoiding the question, will a magnus break thru bone and ribs, I'm not saying muzzy's are sharper because they are not, do they fly better, for most people no, I prefer the 3 blade 100gr head. sure the blades bent when I shot a 200lb doe, but it went thru both shoulders and then stuck in a tree after it went thru,cannot expect any head to hold up after that, not even a magnus. They make a bigger hole that a given on flesh, has anyone shot a deer by mistake in the shoulder or high in the ribs with a magnus, if so what happened to the head. I guess the bottom line is most people can't get a muzzy to fly right, which in turn makes them look elsewhere, I'm not saying that magnus isn't a great head, but will it hold up to a questionable hit on a deer. Like I said before if muzzy didn't fly right I'd have a magnus head on. Kind of makes me wonder if people could get a muzzy to fly right, would they still shot what they are shooting?

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I don't know if anyone mentioend it (I didn't read all of the posts) but if you'd like to stick with the Muzzy name, take a look at their Phantom broadheads. Same concept as the Magnus Stingers, but made by Muzzy. I'll be trying them out this fall.

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If you give me a minute, I will have pictures of what a Stinger does when it hits a shoulder blade on a hog.

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From AT by a guy named Jerry/NJ. This is what he had to say about the pictures and everything..

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Wow.... That is an excellent image, DK! Talk about solid proof of a 4 blade Stinger punching through bone! I can't wait for this season to start! :D

Butch A

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I have shot alot of deer with Magnus heads. To answer your question....YES they will go through the bone, and honestly without much effort. Now I shoot 2 blade 125's (regular heads), so I can't comment on the Stingers from personal experience. But what I hear is they are as good, or better.
I USED to shoot Muzzy, now I shoot Magnus...and primarily because of the penetration on bad shots issue. Personally the Magnus have out performed the Muzzy's in my experiences. I know several other folks here have also shot Magnus for years as well. Hopefully they will respond. I am not putting down Muzzy's...they are excellent heads. I just think my odds are a tad better on the not so great shot with a Magnus, which is why I will continue to use them.

(Also, out of a well tuned bow...my Magnus heads fly exactly like my field points...as did the Muzzy's. IMO that is a tuning issue, not a broadhead issue.)

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That is incorrect.

The amount a wound bleeds has to do with the trauma to that tissue. A smashing, crushing or blunt tearing of tissue will cause a lot of trauma and a reflex spasm and constriction of all the damaged tissue. A razor sharp cut does little trauma......it simply slices clean open. This causes less constriction of tissue and or vessels and more bleeding. Sharpness of your heads is what will get you more blood........all other things being equal.

I have butchered and tracked deer shot with serrated SteelForce heads the last couple years. They do unreal damage and leave tons of blood. If I didn't like my Stingers so much I would use that head next.

Sharpness is the key.

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WOW! Great pictures, I cannot argue with that, I am not familiar with a hogs shoulder than a deers, is there much of a difference? Is one thicker than the other? What did the head look like? That stinger did a number on that hog!! Point taken.

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That is some nice damage.. I don't think it matters what the head looks like when it comes to Stingers or any Magnus head. They have a lifetime Guarenteethat I remember reading somewhere that includes replacing damaged broadheads...Can't find the information on their website except the quote of the only broadhead with a liftetime guarentee, doesn't say what is covers...

That damage makes me think of buying some.

.. I believe they (serrated)are legal in Illinois now Justin... Not positive on that, saw no mention of it in the regulations the last time I saw them (But wasn't looking specifically for that information)'

Edited to remove some information that I am not remembering totally.

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Anthony, you could shoot the head into a vault door. Send them in, and tell them exactly what you did and you will get a new head back. If you take an animal with them, send a picture and a testimony, and they will send you a free hat and t-shirt.

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WOW! Just whenI was all set to use my Spitfires exclusively this year, I had to go and open this thread.

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Well, I knew I had read that they had a killer warrenty, just couldn't remember how killer. That is pretty nice.. Actually, that is real nice. I'm thinking of putting them on my arrows that I am using out of one of the Oneidas. The tricks flew so nice right out of the box for my wheelie bow and that bow is nicely dialed in so I really don't like messing with it anymore.. The other two bows, well, always room for tinkering and the Stingers have interested me for a while... So have the snuffers for that matter.


Now, just need to figure which bow goes out in the woods first this year.

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Yes they will break through bone. I had a doe quartering away one time, it went through the hind raight leg bone, through the heart, and out through the shoulder bone. Broadhead was still fine. Im gettin ready to send my old ones in to have them send me new ones.

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I just recieved my stingers 4 blade 125 grain in the mail, i can not wait to sight them in!! Just waiting for my Morrels Yellowjacket broadhead target now. Those pics were enough proof for me, I think that a hog has a thicker shoulder blade than a deer has, I know they have a extended shoulder blade that will sometimes protect the vitals, but with the pics it looks like stingers have no problems with bones! 23 days till opening day!!!!!