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Old 07-16-2005 | 05:44 PM
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Bowfanatic my field points are impacting with broadheads. Yes slick tricks do have very good flight characteristics, advertised to be same as feild points. How would you tune it to get it better. Should I shoot a broadhead with poor flight characteristics, just so they do impact different. I know alot of people say paper tuning is not the best, group tuning is better. I have got the groups so where do I go from here. I am just picking your brain and seeing what others would do. Thanks everyone for your thoughts. keep posting more.
If your arrows are impacting nice and straight in the target ,from 5yds out to 40yds then I would'nt give it a second thought.
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Old 07-16-2005 | 05:46 PM
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leave it alone,if it isn't broke don't fix it.you've reached the ideal shooting
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Old 07-16-2005 | 06:35 PM
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the idea of if they both hind the same spot, then it is fine don't fix it! really gets me hot! your arrows MUST inter the target staight at every distance that is what is important! not if they group at 20 yards! i have had a bad shot on a deer becuase i thought they shoot right with my feild tips so i am good to go! wow was i WRONG![:@]
i am only giveing my opinon becuase i have seen it and it does matter! so good luck!
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Old 07-16-2005 | 06:58 PM
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Manboy, I appreciate your opinion. How would you start the tuning process? Are you against group tuning. How do you adjust for the way the arrow sticks out of the target(not straight).
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Old 07-16-2005 | 07:28 PM
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If you are going to tune it, mark where the site, rest, and string loopis. If you cannot get the bow tuned any better, then you can just put the site, rest, and string loop back where they were.
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Old 07-17-2005 | 04:31 AM
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I have another question regarding the arows going in "straight". For the arrows to go in perfectlystraight wouldn't your target have to be level or the same height as your bow at full draw. If it is not, lets say the target is lower, your arrows would go in at an angle, tip down. In the same since if your are not standing perfectly sguare to the target your arrow may enter at an angle, left or right. I understand if your bow is way out of tune you could see it, but if it is close I am not sure you can tell. If I am not understanding this please set me "straight". Thanks
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Old 07-17-2005 | 06:09 AM
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Sent you a pm.
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Old 07-17-2005 | 10:59 AM
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You are never going to know if your arrows go into the taret straight because they will move when they hit it. It might work on a 3-d target, but not a bag target. If you have fletchings on the arrows they are straight by the time they hit the target. That is what they do.

I think you are going to over think this and be a mess before deer season starts.

Manboy does sort of have a point though. Just because your arrows broad heads are impacting with your field points does not mean you have the best possible tune. Although this is what most hunters strive for because it makes it easier to practice with field tips and then switch right to fixed blades and have it be on.

If you had the absolute best flight you could acheive that does not always mean your fixed blades would impact dead on with your field points at every distance. The determining factor would be how well they group at each distance.

However I don't feel they will be so out of whack you will lose a deer because of it. If that were the case they would not group for crap and you would see them fish tailing thru the air on the way to the target. Sometime things happen when your hunting, like making a bad hit or losing an animal. You can't always blame your tune or something like that, but ou are shooting at live game, things will not always go as planned. I have seen perfectly set up bows that lacked penitration at one point. It does happen. I have also seen badly tuned bows have no problem zipping right thru a deer year after year.

And the truth is your arrow does not fly striaght any way. It flexes most of the way to the traget, you just can't see it. And then when it hits the target it goes crazy as well. I have seen high speed footage of both and it's pretty wild. If you want less flex get really stiff arrows.

These are just my opinions as well. If it were me though I would worry more about how well you shoot, not how finely tuned your bow is. That is usually the determining factor. You can make a well tuned bow shoot like crap if you do something wrong before or during the shot.

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Old 07-17-2005 | 05:26 PM
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Why would you tune something where the end result is already what you are obtaining. The goal is to have BH and FO impact the same. You've reached that, there is nothing more to do.
I would tend to agree. I guess the "real test" though would be to take a broadhead with alot of exposed blade area...and shoot it to see if it groups with your field points. If they do impact the same then I guess you could say the bow is tuned....

...unless you found a broadhead with even more surface area and then attempted to see if that broadhead grouped with your fieldpoints.

In my opinion that is redundant. Your broadheads hit with your fieldpionts. Destination reached.
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Old 07-17-2005 | 05:36 PM
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In my opinion that is redundant. Your broadheads hit with your fieldpionts. Destination reached.
This was exactly my case. My old PSE bow is tuned for XX75 2315's and I just leave it be. I use 125gr field tips and they group beautifully at both 20 yards and even out to 30 yards. My broadheads were 125gr Thunderheads which always shot a fraction of an inch low for some reason or another. They still flew beautifully but not dead-onlike my field tips. I tried some 100gr Magnus Stingers out of curiosity and can't believe how well they fly! For some reason the 100gr Stingers hit the exact point as my 125gr field tips. I don't know why nor do I want totry to understand why. They just work. They are extremely accurate as field tips and are dangerously sharp!

Long story short: I'm set for the season!
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