slick trick vs. after shock.
#1
Well after much discussion on another thread about the merits of fixed blade broadheads, like the slick trick, vs. new "space age" designs, like the hypershock I have decided to shoot both slick tricks and hypershocks side by side through the exact same materials to see which one (style)is better.
I want to simulate a large game animal as best I can by useing different materials for different parts of the body (hide, muscle, bone, lungs).
If any of you have any suggestions on which materials you think would best simulate an animal feel free to post them.Keep in mind that i don't want to spend a huge ammount of money.
I was thinking leather (skin)over some kind of wet dense foam (muscle)over 1/4 inch plywood (bone)in front of a large block of wet open cell foam (lungs).
I want to simulate a large game animal as best I can by useing different materials for different parts of the body (hide, muscle, bone, lungs).
If any of you have any suggestions on which materials you think would best simulate an animal feel free to post them.Keep in mind that i don't want to spend a huge ammount of money.

I was thinking leather (skin)over some kind of wet dense foam (muscle)over 1/4 inch plywood (bone)in front of a large block of wet open cell foam (lungs).
#4
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From: Maine
I like the plywood idea for bone.
How about a watermelon for lungs maybe??
I also like the idea of a wet phone book, maybe soak it in a bucket of water. That would be like muscle.
Just thinking out loud,
Kev
How about a watermelon for lungs maybe??
I also like the idea of a wet phone book, maybe soak it in a bucket of water. That would be like muscle.
Just thinking out loud,
Kev
#6
Yes, unfortunately she actually loves her mother. Even though none of us, including my wife, can stand to be around her. Heck of an idea though.
Man, if I could get away with it............................ hmmmmmmmmm?


Man, if I could get away with it............................ hmmmmmmmmm?



#8
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How about a ½ inch thick plate steel with a ½ inch hole?
The HyperShocks trip livers will hit the steel and cycle under resistance, which would cut skin but not steel. The blades would deploy on the backside of the plate. Opening the blades with a cut DIA 1 3/8 up to 2 ¾. The Slick Trick would loose all of the blades or stop dead. I know we can shoot for this hole at 40 yards with the x-ring machine that will test accuracy. We can also put some of that ballistic gel on the backside of the steel to measure the volume of area that has tissue damage. Lets do it!
I will help you Big Bull PM me and we can try to set it up.
The HyperShocks trip livers will hit the steel and cycle under resistance, which would cut skin but not steel. The blades would deploy on the backside of the plate. Opening the blades with a cut DIA 1 3/8 up to 2 ¾. The Slick Trick would loose all of the blades or stop dead. I know we can shoot for this hole at 40 yards with the x-ring machine that will test accuracy. We can also put some of that ballistic gel on the backside of the steel to measure the volume of area that has tissue damage. Lets do it!
I will help you Big Bull PM me and we can try to set it up.
#9
Animals don't have pre drilled holes in them and they are not made of 1/2 inch steel plate.
Besides I will be trying to simulate real animals the best I can. IE... hair, hide, muscle, bone, and finally lungs. I don't think 1/2 inch thick steelis realeventhere.
Of course if you want to test out how tough that anondizing process on a longaluminum furrel compared to a short steel furrel feel free to shoot all the steel you want.
Ballistics gel is way too expensive and it must be refrigerated up until the actual time you are going to use it. It can not be left outside in the Southern heat for any length of time before it starts to break down and melt.
You are more than welcome to bring down the shooting machine to my house and we can shoot for accuracy any time.
And yes I will measure the total cut for each head.
Besides I will be trying to simulate real animals the best I can. IE... hair, hide, muscle, bone, and finally lungs. I don't think 1/2 inch thick steelis realeventhere.
Of course if you want to test out how tough that anondizing process on a longaluminum furrel compared to a short steel furrel feel free to shoot all the steel you want.
Ballistics gel is way too expensive and it must be refrigerated up until the actual time you are going to use it. It can not be left outside in the Southern heat for any length of time before it starts to break down and melt.
You are more than welcome to bring down the shooting machine to my house and we can shoot for accuracy any time.
And yes I will measure the total cut for each head.
#10
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Big Bull:
I saw tests in the past that use this:
1. Paper target
2. 1/2 inch thick piece of 4# closed cell foam
3. Piece of paper
4. 1/4 inch thick piece of plywood
5. Piece of paper
6. 1/2 inch thick 9# foam
7. Piece of paper
8. 1/2 thick 4# foam
9. Piece of paper
10 1/2 inches thick 4# foam
Machining the rotation 20 inches thick.
The hard partis holding it together.
After the shot you can get each piece of paper and measure the cut?
This is just what I saw.
It is very hard to replicate an animal tissue and bone and mussel mass.
Animals like us have allot of water mass.
Hope this can help.
I saw tests in the past that use this:
1. Paper target
2. 1/2 inch thick piece of 4# closed cell foam
3. Piece of paper
4. 1/4 inch thick piece of plywood
5. Piece of paper
6. 1/2 inch thick 9# foam
7. Piece of paper
8. 1/2 thick 4# foam
9. Piece of paper
10 1/2 inches thick 4# foam
Machining the rotation 20 inches thick.
The hard partis holding it together.
After the shot you can get each piece of paper and measure the cut?
This is just what I saw.
It is very hard to replicate an animal tissue and bone and mussel mass.
Animals like us have allot of water mass.
Hope this can help.



