RE: Tried out some bows, too damn expensive
 

Caveat emptor.

Sure, there are deals to be had, but there are times when you think a great deal turns out to not be so. I made a stupid mistake by buying a bow on Ebay, and regretted it. I then bought a new Allegiance and I don't regret spending the extra cash for the peace-of-mind that comes from knowing that I'm the only one, save for the factory and the tech that set it up, to have ever shot that bow. I also know that everything is going to be put together right, and you won't have any unpleasant surprises due to carefully concealed problems, and if there is something screwed up with my new bow, Bowtech will take care of me for as long as I own it, with the exception of normal wear items, of course.

Mike

RE: Tried out some bows, too damn expensive
 

But it's really not that much more, unless you have a taste for very cheap unscoped rifles. You can pick up a very decent Parker Hunter Mag, with basic accessories ready to shoot, for less than $500, which is about what you'd spend on a Savage 10 and a bargain scope. On the other end, you could go with a new top-of-the-line Mathews or Bowtech which, with good accessories, will run you a touch under $1000, give or take $100 or so. This is about the cost of a Browning A-bolt or Remington M700 BDL with midrange glass.

What I look at are the definate benefits ofbowhunting that more than makeup for any slight additional cost of gear. InIowa,and most other states, the archery season is very long compared to the gun seasons.Our archery season starts on Oct. 1st and runs until the middle of Jan., with a roughly 3 week gap inDec for the two shotgun seasons. Archery seasonalso runsright throughthe peak of the rutand provides the lowest pressure levels onthe deer. $1000 to allow me to hunt almost three months out of the year is worth it to me.

Mike

RE: Tried out some bows, too damn expensive
 

Driftrider, good post and I see your point. I'm one of those people that will spend the money if it feels right, and 1000.00 just doesn't feel right. There was a definate difference between the top of the line and the cheaper models, but I don't think the difference is warranted in twice the cost. Secondly, if I buy a gun I will have it for the rest of my life, and it's value may even increase, compared to a bow whose value drops quickly, and won't last a lifetime. I still cannot see the justification for spending twice on a top model, I got a lifetime warranty with my PSE, and frankly, I thought the Typhoon shot better then the Primos. Honestly, I had to shoot several arrows and really concentrate to tell the difference, and I admit there was some. I'm starting to think that Mathews, Bow Tech and some of the others are selling 400.00 bows for 750.00. 400.00 for the bow, 350.00 to say you shoot a Mathews. I hear alot of people saying the bow is worth the money, but not many saying why it's worth twice the cost of other bows.

RE: Tried out some bows, too damn expensive
 

muley, congrats on the bow, and I understand where you are comming from because you followed your feelings. I try to shoot a lot of different bows each year to help my archery ed students decide on choosing a bow for themself given their price range. I too followed my feelings with selecting a new bow. For the last several years I have wanted a Mathews because of the way they shoot, not because I could say "I shoot a Mathews". Now my wife did put the bow on layaway for my christmas present. But after shooting it I had no problems wanting it and setting it all up the way I like. As per your question whyits worth twice the cost of other bows. Well please don't take this the wrong way,so here goes. I wouldn't say my Switchback is twice as good as your new bow, but in several area's its definately better. (OH boy here goes the flame war now). Same goes for other top of the line bows. If Icouldn't buy the Switchback, I would buy the Bowtech Allegiance. I admit both of these bows are almost equal in my book. They have zero hand shock, smooth shooters, both are deadly quiet, both are very shooter friendly and both have good speeds. Both are also $700 plus bows in my neck of the woods. Now I am also not saying your new Typhoon does not have any of these qualities as well. But the top of the line bows just do it better, and therefor demand a higher penny.Not saying they are worth twice as much,butas long as us hunters are willing to buy thesebows at twice the price they will keep selling them as such. I am sure worried I have offended you,and if I have I sure do apologize. I am not trying to say your new bow is a bad choice or a bad bow I am just tying to answer your question. I am not sure I have made much sense so I'll shut up now before my leg follows my foot into my mouth. [&:]

RE: Tried out some bows, too damn expensive
 

do this

go to EBAY

advanced search on current auctions, Buy It Now only, and sort them newest to oldest.

Save that search.

Click on it often, every few minutes. Learn what bows are selling for what prices, and when that gem of a deal comes along, you'll be ready to Buy it Now

Example

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=20838&item =7164853299&rd=1

$585 for a new Switchback

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=20838&item =7163029479&rd=1

decked out Cybertech for $475

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=20838&item =7162636835&rd=1


Here's what you're looking for $425 - decked out LX like new. Fantastic bow, great deal - someone bought it 7 hours after it was listed for that price !

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=20838&item =7164315045&rd=1

Ultrad II that lasts 7 hours, BUT it has an extra set of limbs. Sell those for $50/60 back on EBAY, and you got $275 or less invested in a hell of a bow,and notice it says Buy It Now gets free shipping ?





Deals ARE out there ......... you just gotta go find them !

RE: Tried out some bows, too damn expensive
 

I would advise against getting a bow on Ebay unless you know a lot about bows and can do set up and maintenance yourself. And How would you know the bow would fit you or not? It sounds like you have a little experience though;).

I think you should look at a Hoyt Ultrasport if you haven't already. That is the one I looked at last summer. I could not a tell a big difference between it and some of the bows for twice the money or more. It should be under 400 bucks. The next step up would be an Ultramag, maybe 50 to 70 dollars more.

There really isn't a big difference between the hoyts and relflex. The biggest difference is that the technology is about a year behind the hoyts and they can sell them mail order where you can't hoyt. Other then that they are pretty much the same. The risers might be slightly different as well.

Unfortunately I think bows cost more than a rifle. I would not spend any were near what I spent on my bow on a rifle. I could get a decent rifle and scope for half what my bow cost. Archery is expensive. And the little things add up quick. Rest, sight, arrows, target, release, stabilizer.

Good luck with what ever you decide.

Paul

RE: Tried out some bows, too damn expensive
 

I would also agree with no ebay. You never know what someone has done to the bow. You could get it and have to put an extra 200 in it to set it up properly. I think you should go to talk to bowshops and itll all work itself out.

RE: Tried out some bows, too damn expensive
 

Blahhhhhhh all you guys thinking a compound has to be "fit" to you.

if you're a total novice that might be true, but if you know your draw length and how to crimp on a nock and fiddle with a rest you're ready to buy an EBAY bow, or Cabela's bow etc etc.

Hell, even draw length isn't as critical anymore. Get a bow with adjustable modules and use an Allen wrench and tweak it a bit. Compound bows are MADE to be easy to shoot - and they are.

RE: Tried out some bows, too damn expensive
 

I would say that was true back in the day when you had 50-60 percent let off and large valleys. However with the newer bows I feel how it fits you is pretty important. And yes many bows are adjustable. However if you go thru a dealer they will have the modules for it or now how to set it correctly. Some bows like a bowtech you have to be carefull how you set it or you could damage the harness. And then there is mathews, if you get one of those and it doesn't fit you have to get another cam. And they are not too cheap, nor a simple swap.

And that is providing the bow is actually the draw length it says it is, many are not. So what you think your draw length may be, and what the actual bow will be may be too different things. And every set up will be different depending on bow design and the type of release you use.

Sure you could shoot it if it was wrong. And you might be able to shoot it pretty well. My first bow was about an inch too long when I got it. I did pretty good with it. I can tell you this though, I like having the correct draw length much better. It's much easier to shoot, holds more steady and is more forgiving.

I think the #1 thing is that your bow fits you properly and is comfortable to shoot. There is no way to know that without shooting it first.

This is often times the difference between someone enjoying the sport and giving it up and fishing instead;) I'm sure since he has been shooting for a while he knows this. But I would hate to see some new guy or a youngster come on here and see that and think they can just get any old bow cheap off Ebay and slap a rest and nockset on it and be ready to go. I know you said it would not be for a novice, but many over estimate thier knowledge or skill. I know guys that have been shooting for 20 plus years and don't have a clue about proper form or how thier bow should fit them. Sure they shoot ok, but I bet they could shoot better.

I just couldn't bring myself to spend that much money on something with out actually holding it in my hands first. It would depend on the person though to an extent. I would buy one off from PAhunter or something if I knew what I was getting.

Paul

RE: Tried out some bows, too damn expensive
 

The reason those bows are so expensive is because people will pay it. The manufacturers are only charging what the market will bear.

PS: I will never buy bows or electronics on Ebay. You just don't know what you're getting. It's real easy to mess up a bow and sell it on ebay or unload one that has never been "right". You don't think the Pro Shops sell all the bows that were dry fired at the shop to there customers do you? They don't want to service it later. Unload it on Ebay. Not saying you can't get a good one there, just too big chance your getting somebody elses headache.