Hoyt VS. Reflex
 

I know they are the same company but is there a difference.As some of you might know I am a Hoyt fan and have been shopping for a new bow for a while now. There are soo many choices to choose from that I can't make up my mind.I was just looking at the Reflex bows in the Cabelas catalog. They look identical to the V tec. It is alot cheaper and they have it set up with the S Coil,Whisker Bisquit,copper john sight and Bohning quiver. I might go with that. Is there a difference in Hoyt and Reflex. Is the Super Slam the same bow as the V tec??

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I shoot a Reflex and love it. And they are quite a bit cheaper than Hoyt. It is my understanding that Hoyt manufactured Reflex specifically for the hunting industry, while Hoyt was for competition. I think they realized the market for bows in the hunting industry was tremendous so they brought Hoyt bows over as well. Both good bows though.

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Reflex are great bows--that BUCKSKIN looks very tempting to me!

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I bought the Buckskin back in February. It's a nice little bow. The ATA is short, without being too short, the brace height is forgiving, and it weighs less than 4 pounds without anything on it. Only "drawback" is it doesn't have the space age looks of the other Reflex and Hoyt bows. I suppose the deer won't mind though.

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I believe Reflex produces the older products of Hoyt with a different name, once hoyt quits making them. Or at least I think so.

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The Buckskin is what I also shoot. I love it, it has a great feel to it!!!!

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If I were buying a new bow today, it would probably be the reflex..... It's the same bow!! Just fewer bells and whistles......

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I just bought a Vtec 2 days ago. I have to say that it was expensive but I won't buy another bow for a long time. It shoots oh so sweet. I installed a trophy taker rest, and fuse quiver, with gold tip pro hunter arrows, also the new limb saver stabilizer.

RE: Hoyt VS. Reflex
 

They are not just old hoyts, they use the same TEC and cam 1/2 technology but get the less expensive limbs and risers.

They are both good bows, I would not hesitate to shoot a reflex.

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Hoyt has laminated limbs, Reflex doesn't.

High end reflex has magnesium risers. Lower ends reflex doesn't.

I wouldn't hesitate to get a Reflex, Hoyts are WAY too high for me.

It's 20 % good average bow, 80% Hunter (practice and perserverance).

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Yes. That is correct. Well, some of the models anyway. Some of the models are Reflex originals, but still manufactured by Hoyt. Kinda like Chevy and GMC.

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Creole nailed it—on both accounts.

All things equal besides the riser and the laminated limbs.

But, the second part of his post is probably one of the smartest things I've read on a message board in a long time.

It's the shooter that makes the bow—not the other way around.

I was considering a Reflex myself—but have decided on a Pearson Pride. It's likely more bow that I'd ever need—same is likely true of any bow on the market today.

Time and practice!!

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Since you only have 3 post here that's not saying much.

Couldn't resist.:D
Have to disagree here. The shooter the bow and the arrow all play an important and equal part. A good shooter can't shoot a bow that doesn't shoot were it's aimed.

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nodog, if jamac220 was like me and visited the site to read post to get tips etc for along time before sighning up then what he said does say alot, or for all you no he has changed his screen name and maybe he had more post than you. There is no need to insult people. As for what was said about its the shooter that makes the bow not the other way around, I would have to disagree with you IMO its more true than it is false I think that the best shooters out there could take a lower end bow and as long as he had it tuned he could shoot just as good as someone with his same skill shooting a top end bow.

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Hands down Diamond makes the best bows.

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It was just a joke. Kind of a way of getting to know each other. Meant no offense. The smiley face wasn't a sneer. Sorry man.

A lower end bow will not stay tuned long, does not consider comfort as the higher ones do and is not engineered the same, but If the bow is tuned then it's part of the equation is complete and if the shooter is good then that part is taken care of as well. Nothing left but the arrow. A lower end bow will fatigue anybody more quickly. Just holding one for a length of time is tiring. I know I have some and one high end bow. Put a good set up in the hands of someone who thinks he shoots poorly and they will most likely shoot better and become a good shooter. Most don't have equipment that is set right and blame their poor shooting on themselves. I'm a lower end kind of guy and proud of it, but it does get tiring.

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I appoligize nodog, I took your comment to jamac220 as an insult, I was wrong no hard feelings OK;):D

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Sure.:D

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I love my used Hoyt xtec. I'm sure a reflex would be just as good. I just can't spend money on a bow with those corny game tracks cast in. It' like I'm paying for something I don't need. It had to cost a little to make those molds without sacrificing strength. Maybe not. I am sure they are an excellent bow either way, just not for me.

RE: Hoyt VS. Reflex
 

The reflex line used to be older discontinued Hoyts but they are moving away from that into their own line,or atleast current Hoyt risers.



They still use the older style limb pockets that do not have the side lock screws.


The limbs are the cheaper glass limbs that Hoyt has on their lower end bows.zr200,or atleast a knockoff of that limb.Except for the Caribou and it has the xt4000 limbs from Hoyt and they are expensive laminated limbs(this bow is designed for finger shooters).


The biggest difference is the Slam 1/2 cam system,it only offers draw length adjustment in 1" adjustments,where the cam 1/2 on Hoyts give you 1/2" increment adjustments.This isn't a big deal if you fall in the even draw length category but if you are in the half inch category it is a big deal.

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nodog,

sorry my post count isn't as "heavy" as you'd prefer. I guess that automatically signifies I must not know what I'm talking about!;)

Anyway, everything you said about "higher end" bows may very well be true. They're more comfortable, more forgiving, etc. BUT, are you saying that the bow is more important than the skill of the shooter? Because I was simply implying that the shooter's form and consistency is the more important of the two factors.

I'll put it to you like this, I spent a lot of time growing up tagging along with my ole man at archery events. He started shooting compound bows from the time they were first introduced. I've seen enough from "years ago" to know that all of today's advancements in technology had nothing to do with the competency of archers 15, 20 even 25 years ago. They didn't "need" all the bells and whistles then—but somehow those "new features" are so important to archers today?

I for one don't buy it. I myself have shot next to guys at several pro shops who shot the "high end" bows—and could outshoot many of them while holding a bow that cost an easy $200 less. Must have been a fluke?

The point is, yes, high end bows have their advantages—and if nothing else—make the transition easier. But, does that mean they actually make the shooter better? If a kid starts out with the most forgiving bow on the market, and then switches to a lower end bow—is he still going to be as consistent? Not likely. Why? Because some of those features of a more forgiving bow "covered up" some of his own flaws in his form and shot sequence.

That was my point. Look at it like this, a lousy driver in a Mercedes is still a lousy driver. I'd rather see a newbie fine-tune his form on a lower end bow—and become proficient as a shooter—rather than see someone develop a false sense of confidence in his abilities just because he's shooting a bow that covers up for his own flaws.

It's personal preference, but I've been shooting long enough to know that even if a more expensive bow might make my life easier—it's not necessary, and I don't "need" to spend an extra $200+ to be "confident" in my abilities to shoot a bow.