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TerryM 02-21-2005 03:01 PM

Whisker Bisquit question?
 
I have a wisker bisquit QS drop tine with the older ( all black) wiskers. I bought it used and am starting to think its the aluminum model type.

Question 1: Is it worth buying the new 2 colored type, is there a noticable difference in noise?

Question 2: I was in a sporting goods store today and the clerk told me that lots of people are actually buying the larger aluminum style to shoot carbons because it is quieter. This was not a true archery shop so I am not sure how experienced this guy was.

Question 3: If using the larger aluminum style with a carbon would the extra play on sides and top have much of an efect on arrow flight/consistency?

I don't mind buying the new insert, I just want to buy the best option for carbon arrows. Thanks.

Dairy King 02-21-2005 03:43 PM

RE: Whisker Bisquit question?
 
Forget the noise with the new 2 colored one. Its not about noise, the new one isnt so hard on your vanes or feathers. That answers your number 1 question. For the other two. I dont know.

bigbulls 02-21-2005 05:47 PM

RE: Whisker Bisquit question?
 

Question 1: Is it worth buying the new 2 colored type, is there a noticable difference in noise?
Like DK said, the new ones are softer and wear the fletchings less than the older one did.


Question 2: I was in a sporting goods store today and the clerk told me that lots of people are actually buying the larger aluminum style to shoot carbons because it is quieter. This was not a true archery shop so I am not sure how experienced this guy was.
They use the same bristles in all of the bisquits. So I can't really see any differance in noise with an aluminum bisquit with carbon arrows. The finish on the shaft itself can have a signifigant effect on noise though.


Question 3: If using the larger aluminum style with a carbon would the extra play on sides and top have much of an efect on arrow flight/consistency?
Yes it can have a signifigant effect on consistancy or your arrow flight. Assuming it would be possible with out blowing something up think about shooting a 30 caliber bullet down a .375 bore. The arrow, just like the bullet, would rattle all the way through the bisquit until it left the bow. You need a relatively tight fit on the arrow shaft to get the best performance from the bisquit.

TerryM 02-21-2005 07:00 PM

RE: Whisker Bisquit question?
 

quote:

Question 2: I was in a sporting goods store today and the clerk told me that lots of people are actually buying the larger aluminum style to shoot carbons because it is quieter. This was not a true archery shop so I am not sure how experienced this guy was.

They use the same bristles in all of the bisquits. So I can't really see any differance in noise with an aluminum bisquit with carbon arrows. The finish on the shaft itself can have a signifigant effect on noise though.

What I meant by this is that the clerk was saying that by being a larger hole than the carbon one that it would be quieter when shooting a carbon through it. The company website also states that there should be some play even onthe sides????

bigbulls 02-21-2005 07:30 PM

RE: Whisker Bisquit question?
 
Yes their should be some play but not nearly that much. A very small ammount. I didn't mean to sound like it should actually be a tight fit but very close. Enough so the shaft doesn't just flop around inside the WB.

You will be sacraficing consistancy and accuracy for maybe a slightly quieter bow.

These guys spend millions in R&D. I think if it were better to shoot a carbon through an aluminum WB they would be selling them that way cause it would only help their sales.

TerryM 02-21-2005 07:35 PM

RE: Whisker Bisquit question?
 

I think if it were better to shoot a carbon through an aluminum WB they would be selling them that way cause it would only help their sales.
AHHH, I think I am going to pick up a new insert with the 2 colors anyway. They must have some improvement over the old type. I will buy the carbon specific one and it will give me both should I ever decide to shoot aluminum.

bigbulls 02-21-2005 07:49 PM

RE: Whisker Bisquit question?
 
The new two color WB's are definetly an improvement but it's for less wear on the fletchings and not for noise or anything like that.

Blackeye Archer 02-21-2005 09:12 PM

RE: Whisker Bisquit question?
 
I shoot Carbon arrows through the Aluminum bisket insert(two color).
I switched over from the carbon insert because it was to tight on my Carbon express Maxima 350.
Thank God I did!!!.....What a difference..... MUCh better...faster, less speed loss and more accurate ...... try Blazer vanes ( when fletching put a dab of glue on the front and back of the vane ) ......they work awesome and no vane damage .......also minimal speed loss

nubo 02-23-2005 07:28 AM

RE: Whisker Bisquit question?
 
Terry !

Don told me that the rest you bought was definetly a carbon model,I don't know this as a fact since I'm not really a WB fan to start with . I'm sorry if I've steered you wrong with this rest I would never do this intentionally,but I was just taking his word for what this rest was .

nubo

TerryM 02-23-2005 07:39 AM

RE: Whisker Bisquit question?
 

Don told me that the rest you bought was definetly a carbon model,I don't know this as a fact since I'm not really a WB fan to start with . I'm sorry if I've steered you wrong with this rest I would never do this intentionally,but I was just taking his word for what this rest was .
Nubo,
No problem buddy,
I just think that there is such a range of shaft diameters out there that its a little confusing. I will buy the generation 2 insert as from what I read its some what easier on fletching. The price was right, I'm still happy with my purchase!

BGfisher 02-23-2005 08:48 AM

RE: Whisker Bisquit question?
 
Terry, if you are shooting standard sized carbons through a carbon bisquit then there is already some space around the shaft. They are not tight, unless you are shooting some of the bigger shafts, eg Vapor 23 Speeds. Believe me, you don't want the aluminum bisquit to shoot carbons.

TerryM 02-23-2005 09:23 AM

RE: Whisker Bisquit question?
 
I will buy the carbon generation 2 insert. Thanks.

pinesap 02-24-2005 06:38 PM

RE: Whisker Bisquit question?
 
TerryM
If you would let me know if there was a differance with your sights after you put the new WB on. My brother in law put one on and he had to move his sights. thanks.

Stone316_74 02-24-2005 10:06 PM

RE: Whisker Bisquit question?
 
Alot of people up here are using the larger hole (alluminum or carbons can be shot). If you wrap a piece of mole skin inside the hole and down the front and back of the rest you'll a perfectly quiet rest. Just a little tip.

Bluefeather 02-25-2005 06:44 PM

RE: Whisker Bisquit question?
 

ORIGINAL: Stone316_74

Alot of people up here are using the larger hole (alluminum or carbons can be shot). If you wrap a piece of mole skin inside the hole and down the front and back of the rest you'll a perfectly quiet rest. Just a little tip.
Now if you do this mole skin wrap, how is the fletching going to go through the whisker biscuit? Is everybody shooting bare shafts? My rest is perfectly quiet without modification. Some arrows are quieter than others on the draw. And, you'll have to explain this mole skin consept to me because, either something is lost in the translation on this one or your just way out there in left field.

TerryM 02-25-2005 07:09 PM

RE: Whisker Bisquit question?
 

And, you'll have to explain this mole skin consept to me because, either something is lost in the translation on this one or your just way out there in left field.
I am also confused. Wouldn't the moleskin block the fletching from passing through the wiskers?

pinesap 02-27-2005 07:22 PM

RE: Whisker Bisquit question?
 

mole skin
I think you put the mole skin where the dark color is. Is not that big of an area. I have not done this but i think thats where it goes.

TerryM 02-27-2005 08:38 PM

RE: Whisker Bisquit question?
 

I think you put the mole skin where the dark color is
OK I get it now. I will try it but it must be hard to keep the moleskin on.


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