Ok, how about ASAT camo?
#41
RE: Ok, how about ASAT camo?
Rangeball
I just hung mine outside for a few minutes and it was dry.
But then again the weather down here is still hot.
The first time I washed mine I let it soak for about 1/2 hour in hot water and then washed it with my camo jeans.
I dont really think that you have to dry them after each cycle.
Mine have been washed 6 times now and they are in the sent safe bag waiting for opening day.
I just hung mine outside for a few minutes and it was dry.
But then again the weather down here is still hot.
The first time I washed mine I let it soak for about 1/2 hour in hot water and then washed it with my camo jeans.
I dont really think that you have to dry them after each cycle.
Mine have been washed 6 times now and they are in the sent safe bag waiting for opening day.
#42
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Ok, how about ASAT camo?
Please tell me it is now much quieter than when you first got it. I just pulled the jacket out of the package, put it on, and it's pretty noisey. Did washing take care of this for you?
#43
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Shamokin PA USA
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RE: Ok, how about ASAT camo?
Hey Guys, Thanks for all the good words. I have run a few suits through the proverbial ringer. I started out with the warm water wash/cold rinse and then air dry and they looked just fine. We talked about it and I decided to try to virtually destroy one of the new suits. Death by washing! Well anyway, I ran it through about 4-5 hot wash/warm rinse cycles, with sneakers and jeans, and between each wash I threw it in the dryer on high heat. After all the wash tests and the final dry, I inspected each part of the suit for any kind of flaw or fading that might have occurred and there were none.
I think this did accelerate the breaking of the fibers of the material and with the excessive searing from the high air pressure leaf cutter. When they produce the fabric they lay the polyester leaf material on top of the mesh, before the leaves are cut. They then sew seams at 3-inch intervals and parallel to each other down the length of the sheet. They then place the doubled sheets of material on an air table that sucks the mesh to the table and blows air through the mesh, parachuting the polyester and making it look like a sheet of corrugated roofing. This separates the polyester from the mesh. The high-pressure air cutter is then used to cut the leaves on a plotter, all computer controlled to cut the leaves. Well, somehow the tube that the high pressure air is blown through, make of glass, got broken and when replaced they put in a larger tube, .070” rather than the original .024” tube. With the larger tube, they had to crank up the pressure, causing the cut to be wider than normal, and the edges of the leaves to be seared more. Using the polyester fabric, the edges need to be seared, just like cutting a nylon rope, you need to burn the edge with a lighter to keep it from fraying.
My best suggestion would be to soak it in hot water with some SportWash to basically pre-soften the fabric before you beat it up in the washer. Wash it for the first time or 2 in hot water wash/warm rinse. Now if you want to dry it after every washing that wouldn’t be a bad idea, but I found it works as well to wash it 6 or so times and then dry it on air fluff/no heat. After these initial 6 or so washings, I’d use cold water and hang dry to keep it clean.
Just like any clothing, washing and drying does reduce the materials life. My personal suit is a hand-me-down that’s 12 years old and it is still in great shape. Again, just like any clothing, the more you wash it, the more supple it gets and the better the leaf action will be. If you’re going to through in sneakers, take out the laces or they will wrap up in the cloth and you’ll have to cut them off. I know!
As with any of our clothing, if you are not 100% satisfied, we will make it right.
Thanks again,
Chuck Pensyl
Smart Hunters Wear
ASAT Camouflage
[email protected]
I think this did accelerate the breaking of the fibers of the material and with the excessive searing from the high air pressure leaf cutter. When they produce the fabric they lay the polyester leaf material on top of the mesh, before the leaves are cut. They then sew seams at 3-inch intervals and parallel to each other down the length of the sheet. They then place the doubled sheets of material on an air table that sucks the mesh to the table and blows air through the mesh, parachuting the polyester and making it look like a sheet of corrugated roofing. This separates the polyester from the mesh. The high-pressure air cutter is then used to cut the leaves on a plotter, all computer controlled to cut the leaves. Well, somehow the tube that the high pressure air is blown through, make of glass, got broken and when replaced they put in a larger tube, .070” rather than the original .024” tube. With the larger tube, they had to crank up the pressure, causing the cut to be wider than normal, and the edges of the leaves to be seared more. Using the polyester fabric, the edges need to be seared, just like cutting a nylon rope, you need to burn the edge with a lighter to keep it from fraying.
My best suggestion would be to soak it in hot water with some SportWash to basically pre-soften the fabric before you beat it up in the washer. Wash it for the first time or 2 in hot water wash/warm rinse. Now if you want to dry it after every washing that wouldn’t be a bad idea, but I found it works as well to wash it 6 or so times and then dry it on air fluff/no heat. After these initial 6 or so washings, I’d use cold water and hang dry to keep it clean.
Just like any clothing, washing and drying does reduce the materials life. My personal suit is a hand-me-down that’s 12 years old and it is still in great shape. Again, just like any clothing, the more you wash it, the more supple it gets and the better the leaf action will be. If you’re going to through in sneakers, take out the laces or they will wrap up in the cloth and you’ll have to cut them off. I know!
As with any of our clothing, if you are not 100% satisfied, we will make it right.
Thanks again,
Chuck Pensyl
Smart Hunters Wear
ASAT Camouflage
[email protected]
#44
RE: Ok, how about ASAT camo?
Rangeball
when I first put it on it was noisey as all heck if I had of drawn on a deer I would have been shooting at nothing but air and dirt.
When I tested it yesterday after the washing it was whisper quite.
when I first put it on it was noisey as all heck if I had of drawn on a deer I would have been shooting at nothing but air and dirt.
When I tested it yesterday after the washing it was whisper quite.
#45
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Ok, how about ASAT camo?
Thanks, Ausie.
Hey Chuck, I assume you are in cahoots ( ) with Tim Lenartz. Any idea when you guys will have your web page done? I'm itching to read the tips articles you have links posted to, the ones on tree stand hunting and so forth.
Hey Chuck, I assume you are in cahoots ( ) with Tim Lenartz. Any idea when you guys will have your web page done? I'm itching to read the tips articles you have links posted to, the ones on tree stand hunting and so forth.
#46
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Shamokin PA USA
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RE: Ok, how about ASAT camo?
Tim is sitting here right now, so I guess we are cahooting, LOL. Yes, Tim, me, Jim and Gary Barnhart and Guy Bowersox are the ASAT team. Tim's up in Michigan but here doing a show last weekend. We're getting a call from the website guy tonight and will hopefully have it running sometime this week. We plan on having some stories from guys like yourself that we can share, telling what ASAT has done for their hunting, along with some articles from writers who've been using it for years. Keep an eye out for it this week and as always, we are open to any suggestions or ideas that will help us to better serve the serious hunter, and that goes for product changes and new ideas.
Chuck Pensyl
Smart Hunters Wear
ASAT Camouflage
[email protected]
Chuck Pensyl
Smart Hunters Wear
ASAT Camouflage
[email protected]
#47
RE: Ok, how about ASAT camo?
Chuck
You can start off by sending me the coveralls free of charge of course<img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>
But seriously I am very impressed with the 3-d suit and my wife is impressed with the archers jacket man I had to hide it from her<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
Hopefuly I will have a good story with some pics to put up on the web site.
You can start off by sending me the coveralls free of charge of course<img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>
But seriously I am very impressed with the 3-d suit and my wife is impressed with the archers jacket man I had to hide it from her<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
Hopefuly I will have a good story with some pics to put up on the web site.
#48
RE: Ok, how about ASAT camo?
All great guys at Team ASAT. I had the pleasure of sitting down to dinner with Chuck, Tim, Gary and Jim and also had the pleasure to hunt turkeys with Tim, Chuck, Guy Bowersox and his daughter. These are great people to come to know and a great camoflauge. Thanks Chuck.
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#49
Fork Horn
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Goodyear AZ US
Posts: 215
RE: Ok, how about ASAT camo?
Got my 3D discount suit a couple days ago. They sure do look sharp. Make my dog wet himself when I put it on with the headgear and jumped out of the garage at him. He's still looking at me sideways. I washed it 6 straight times with a couple pairs of jeans. Never took it out of the washer until the last time. Now it's just fine. I did notice a little fadeing around where the elastic bunches up the fabric near the wrist but it was pretty minor. Cant wait to try this thing out on something other than the dog.
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