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Arrow preference
I don't know squat about arrows and I'm looking for some advice on picking out some good ones for hunting. I've heard good things about Easton ST Axis and Gold Tip Pro Hunters. Are they of similar quality/performance? What are the top lines from other manufacturers? Thanks
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The Easton Axis arrows aren't as popular now. The Gold Tip arrows are great, and so are the Carbon Express arrows.
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I have the axis and GT pro as well as the cx select. All have been working fine for me. Of the 3 I will be using the GT pro's this fall for hunting. Just seem to group a little better over all.
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Thank you for the help, guys.
Anyone else have an opinion/advice on the best carbon hunting arrow? |
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i think the gold tip xts are great for a hunting shaft and for the money difference between them and the gold tip pros you cant go wrong.the xts are a .003 and the pros are a .001. its not worth the 30.00 extra to me.if i can robin hood the xts at 30 yrds i dont need to spend the extra 30.00 on the pros.just trying to save you some money. i just shoot the black carbon shafts because if i have to remove my fletching i dont have to worry about scraping off the camo coating. but thats just my personal opinion.i have been shooting the same shafts for 2yrs and they are perfoming very well.
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I've been shooting the axis for the last couple months, and am completely satisfied with them. Seem to get better penetration with them as well, as compared to the gt's I was shooting.
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For a premium carbon I'd go with either Easton ACCs or Gold Tip Pro Hunters.
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Again, thank you for the help, guys.
gspgunnar, what Gold Tips were you using? The shop I like to buy from only sells Easton and Beman. I'm not opposed to getting shafts from the mail or going to other shops, but I'd like to give them as much business as possible. The Bemans look nice, but I can't seem to get any info on them regarding straightness tolerance, either in their pamphlet or on their website. Anyone have any info on this? Or should I not bother with Beman anyway? |
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I shoot Beman ICS Hunter arrows at the moment. I've been very happy with them so far. No real reason to switch but I do plan on picking up a few Easton and Gold Tip arrows to compare since both seem to be highly recommended.
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cj...I was shooting the GT Hunter 55/75. They're a pretty decent arrow, just prefer the Axis.
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I love carbon express! Gold tips are nice too. I got the terminator selects. Great arrow.
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you didn't state that they had to be carbons in the post so i'll say, stay with the aluminums. xx75's or xx78 super slams. they have been around a long time and are excellent. i don't use carbons anymore due to last year i shot a doe and when she ran off i found my arrow in two pieces and splinters everywhere. had to trash alot of the meat because of carbon splinters. nothing but aluminums for me. shoulder bones are no match for them
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Personally I stick with arrows that are .003" straightness. It seems to give a good balance between acceptable straightness and cost.
Most of Bemans and Eastons carbon arrows are +-.005 inches. Which is not very straight. Everyone makes a carbon shaft that is +- .005 or .006 but Easton and Beman do not offer anything striaghter unless you get a carbon/ aluminum arrow. Beman even has some as far out as .011 inches. That could be as much as 22 thousandths of an inch.[:o][:o][:o] That's 1/45th of an inch!!!!!!! Wooden shafts are striaghter. I do not like Beman and Easton carbon arrows at all. I have shot the Bemans two different times and did not like them either time I tried them. I won't buy them any more. They cost too much for the tolerances that they have. Carbon Express makes some of the best carbons on the market today and that is what I shoot currently, CX300. I do want to try their Terminator selects to get a heavier arrow. I also really like the PSE carbon extremes, which I believe are made by the same company that makes CE???????? Gold tips come in second for me and I would stay away from the hunter line. They are very inconsistent. Go to this link and they give you some good info (chart) on the arrows that they sell. http://www.huntersfriend.com/arrowhe...election-6.htm |
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T-Miller,you must of been using arrows that were very old,like some of the first carbons that came out!.I have shot 4 through the sholder and no probelms.at all.I have shot through 2-3" saplings,and hit many rocks.Never had the damage you discribe,with ANY carbon arrows.Some broke yea, BUT NO SPLINTERING!!!.If you want to shoot ALM.,go for it,just dont put down good quality arrows that we all know,dont splinter.They unwine.pan.
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The Bemans look nice, but I can't seem to get any info on them regarding straightness tolerance, either in their pamphlet or on their website. If your local shop doesn't carry the product you want, ask them if they will order it for you, but be prepared to pay up front for what you want since most shop owners already have a collection of things they have ordered for folks that were never picked up. |
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Most of Bemans and Eastons carbon arrows are +-.005 inches. Which is not very straight. Everyone makes a carbon shaft that is +- .005 or .006 but Easton and Beman do not offer anything striaghter unless you get a carbon/ aluminum arrow. Beman even has some as far out as .011 inches. Beman ICSCamo Hunter, Carbon, +/-.002" Beman ICS Trebark, carbon,+/-.002" Beman ICS Hunter, Carbon,+/- .002" Beman Carbon fiber bonded to aluminum 7075 core tube, +/-.003" PSE Carbon force extreme, carbon, +/- .003" You are correct about the eastons carbon, but the bemans aren't all that bad if you pick and choose, they do have some that are terrible. |
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ORIGINAL: Coastie [Beman ICS Classic, all carbon straightness +/-.002" Beman ICSCamo Hunter, Carbon, +/-.002" Beman ICS Trebark, carbon,+/-.002" Beman ICS Hunter, Carbon,+/- .002" Beman Carbon fiber bonded to aluminum 7075 core tube, +/-.003" You are correct about the eastons carbon, but the bemans aren't all that bad if you pick and choose, they do have some that are terrible. Here is a quote from a Fax I recieved back from Beman last year Jeff, 1) The matrix shaft is +/- .003 in straightness on a 28" span. This is not per inch, but at 28" span. 2) The weight is +/- 3.0 grains per dozen. Beman does not advertise their weight and straightness tolerances. It really depends on what model you get that will determine the weight and straightness tolerances. In Beman the weight tolerances can range anywhere from +/- 5.0 to +/- 1.5 grains per dozen. The straightness can range from +/-.003 to +/- .014. Usually the lower costing shafts will have lower tolerances, but tend to be more consistent weight wise. In Easton the straightness tolerances range from +/- .004 to +/- .005, pretty good. The weights on the all carbon from Easton range from +/-1.0 grains to +/- 5.00 grains. When you are looking at the A/C products the tolerances are even better from +/- .002 to +/- .003 and in weight from +/- .5 to +/-2.0 grains. 3) Getting a straightness tolerance in an all carbon shaft to be better than +/- .004 is a little impossible. I know our competitors put that they have +/-.001 in straightness, but you may only be getting one of those if any at all. We don't play the game where we compete with posted numbers. We just tell it like it is and that's what they usually are if not better. The numbers we post are the worst case scenario, so we give ourselves some cussion. 4) As of right now I don't know if they are going to be using a uni-bushing for the ICS product. If there is one on the way, I haven't heard anything about it. I hope that has answered your questions. Good shooting >>----------> Marty Galvan Account Services Representative/ Tech. Support As tight as Beman/Easton spine and weight is, they still have a ways to go..IME, the competition has caught up and surpassed them in the realm of all-carbon and carbon-composite fiber technology. They do shoot extremely well if you get a straight dozen..at least for awhile. EDIT: I should also note that in my FAX I made it quite clear that I have tested a pile of arrows in my life, and I wasn't looking for typical markting BS numbers, and that I was interested to see what Beman says the specs are, and compare them to what they actually are. |
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The Easton Axis arrows are NEW they just came out last season and this is the first season they are available to the average bowhunter , but i really like what i have seen about them , in fact that is what i am gonna shoot this year ( Axis ST 340 ) i have been shooting them now a couple of months and they fly great , got some real good punch give'em a try .
the A/C/C by easton is the straighest but you better have your check book with ya . I added the quote because zak123 stated that the Easton Axis aren't as popular now ! I don't know what he meant by that statement , due to the fact that this is the first year they will be out there for us to hunt with . ORIGINAL: zak123 The Easton Axis arrows aren't as popular now. The Gold Tip arrows are great, and so are the Carbon Express arrows. The Easton Axis arrows aren't as popular now |
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I like the GT 5575XT's been shooting them for a couple years now and havent had any problems with .
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I have been shooting Axis since March and have had mixed results with them !
Just ordered a dozen GT Pro Hunters........so I'll have to get back to you after they get here and I fletch them up ....and start shooting !! |
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Beman Ics for me.
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I have been using the Carbon Express CX Hunters for 2 years now and am very happy with them. I use the CX200 shafts with my bow set at 65#. The chart says that this spine is too weak but it is what works the best from my setup. I harvested a very nice 8 point last year with one. Shot him at 23 yards with a clean pass through that slammed into the shale ground behind him. All I did was wash off the arrow, inspect it and replace the blades in the tip before taking a doe with the same arrow 2 weeks later.
I have tried Bemans, Eastons and Gold Tips. All of these are nice arrows but I get the best consistency with the Carbon Express shafts. I guess my point is this, no one can tell you what shaft will be the best from your particular setup. You will have to experiment with several different brands and sizes. The charts aren't always correct as in my case. If you can get arrows in 1/2 dozen quantities from you local shop, it will be cheaper to find the ones that you like. Then you can always sell the ones you don't want to friends or on eBay to recoup some of your cost. Make sure that your fletching doesn't contact your bow or rest during launch or you will not be able to accurately judge what is shooting well. Just my 3 cents! Peace, Steve Buckmaster G2 QuickTune Drop-Away 4000 Trophy Ridge Matrix Carbon Express CX Hunter NAP Scorpion XP100 |
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I still think ACCs are the best. I have some that are almost 2 years old and they continue to spin and shoot well. I tried the Axis, and like many others, was very impressed at first. If you shoot them enough though, they do seem to lose straightness and start grouping poorly. I should be gettin a dozen Gold Tip Pros this week. I just hope they hold up better than the Axis did.;)
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ST axis's are okay personally I shoot redhead custom 350's with white and green crests topped with vanes.
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All this talk about Carbon Arrows... Without any comments on BLACKHAWK VAPORS? This is the second year I have been using them. My practice arrows take a lot of abuse. I have torn up fletchings and replaced many nocks (crack a few ends, too) in two years of shooting my six practice arrows. They seem to fly great. Anybody been shooting them have a differing opinion?
I was shooting Easton ACC's, but I got tired of bending them so easily. They're just too expensive for my taste. I'm always looking for something better though. Let me know what you think about my change to Blackhawk Vapors. |
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I have been useing the axes for all summer.NO probulms.One day i was at the pro shop and they were unpacking some equipment and a spinner was pulled up.I was just messing around and started spinning arrows.The axes were the strightest of ALL arrows tested.I showed this to my pro and he couldent believe it.He did the same thing and said that he is going to use the axes himself this year.I dont work for no arrow makers and i just hunt and target pratice like everyone else out there.I wouldnt say anything bad about any of the other arrows, so i wont say any names .pan.
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Gold tips are very valuable and XTs are priced very reasonably. I have put mine through major abuse and they still shoot like brand new.
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Carbon Express 300's
Im shooting CX300 arrows but i think they might be wrong for my setup. 29" draw and about 58# on the line. Should i be shooting 200's instead? How will this affect my shooting?
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