MattressMLB

I have been looking at the 2009 line up of bows and I am really kind curious to see what will come out for 2010. I think its been crazy how advanced bows have gottin in the last 5 to 10 years. it makes me wonder if there is really anything else that can be done? Do you guys think that the archery industrey has maybe topped out? or do you think we will see single cam bows shooting in the 375 to 400 range and maybe dual cam or cam and half bows hiting 450 to 500 fps in the next 5yrs?

live2Draw

physics says no. check it out.

live2Draw

allow me to ammend that. arrows gotta get lighter. like the hca's are already technically at 400fps with thier arrows, but not attainable within current industry standards

cartman308

not to mention HCA is in constant financial trumoil........... but that's a different thread.....

ou need lighter arrows and limb materials that are far more advanced than we currently have.

One indication that archery has come to a soft ceiling is how much all the newer bows look similar and have similar cam systems. Some are just executed better than others.

MattressMLB

not metion that some companys basiclly put out the same bow as last year with a differnt name or changed the grip a little or put a couple more cut outs in the riser.

killzonearchery

there is probly a way to make a bow shot 400 but that dont mean its smart. the new bows like the monster and others that are shoting in the 360 range are not really selling becuase they are just not real smooth and have alot of hand shock. Acording to my pro shop in town the new mathew rezenn and pse bow maddness are his top selling bows right now

live2Draw

and the reezen is hard to set up and finiky, and the pse is....well a pse. never gonna be the smoothest guys.
the HCA, the Bowtech Airborne, and the APA are the smoothest of the Speedbows IMHO.
and yeah, HCA is in constant state of crap, but they do build nice bows, and some innovative cams, and ideas (like the roller guard) And their bows are SMooth.
i am excited about the new Breed archery line, as its the same designer that gave us the nice HCA's and the good pearsons.

JOE PA

JMHO, but I think the speeds are scraping the ceiling already. Lighter arrows and bows tough enough to shoot them long term would be the main way to add speed. The fastest bows out there are already about as efficient as they can be and have very tough draw curves. Where can you add more energy? Unless a bow has some kind of ratcheting mechanism, where would the speed come from? It would be nice to see manufacturers concentrate on making fast bows very solid and reliable, but smooth and pleasant to shoot. Really, to survive in the market, a bow maker must find something each year to put out there, and make customers feel like they can't live without it.

That is the future as I see it.

JeffB

WHEN we will see a 400 FPS bow? not sure- but no doubt the current crop of extreme speed bows are very shootable considering. Monsters have been selling extremely well, and no complaints about shootability. Most of these guys are not topping them out, but using a hunting setup shooting in the 320s-330s.

Draw cycles are the real issue now-cams like the AVS, Omen cams and some others appeal to a very, very small minority of consumers (and always do). Those cams are for the hardcore of the hardcore. Most guys who walk into a shop could care less- and if they did care, as soon as they draw one, they don't The vast majority are just looking for a solid, accurate, easy drawing and shooting bow that will kill deer @ 20-30 yards. You don't need 330 FPS or extreme cams to do that.Speed is a added side benefit if they get it.

IMO- the industry will repeat itself like it does every 10 years or so- this current speed bow craze will taper off in the next year or two, and we will start to see some softer cams, and higher brace heights while still getting good speeds. In the mid 1990s, the cams were not really all that bad on most of the extreme speed bows- The Martin Fury Cams, HCA Hatchets, and PSE Maxis cams are much nicer drawing than todays counterparts- the real issue then was the super short brace heights coupled with relatively short risers, long limbs 45 degree limb angles and no string suppression devices to curb string oscillation- all that made for a REALLY tough shooting bow. They were the muscle cars of the day- great power, poor handling. we have come a LONG way since that time. These days a 6" brace height Katera,Martin Warthog, or 82nd AB shoots circles around those old bows, not just with the ease of shooting, but they do it with scads less noise, vibration,and recoil.

3tail

I agree I think that bows have gone as far as they can but who knows there may be more to come sure will be interesting .