PSE X-Force
 

I've been putting money away to buy a new bow after this season and have always been a PSE guy. I've heard nothing but great things about the PSE X-Force. So, if anyone uses this bow, could you please tell me a little about it, how it shoots and everything? And if its worth the money. I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

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A pro guy i shoot with shoots an xforce and an x7 and he loves them both. he shoots good with them and likes them both alot. they are FAST!!! too. he was shooting like 305ish at 52#

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I bought an X Force and liked it enough to buy another one.
Fast, quiet, minimal handshock.
I've owned about 18 different bows, the X Force ismy favorite.

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I have the X-Force Dream Season that has 7"brace height and i love it , no hand shock at all and smooth as silk .

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Man, I'm glad someone asked this question, so I could extol the virtues of the XForce. I really like this bow. It's super fast. I have the XForce TS (28" axle to axle). It's not quite as fast as the Dream Season, which I think is rated at 348 IBO (this one is rated at 330), but I don't think anyone ever gets advertised IBO speed with actual hunting arrows. I'm getting (average) 308.2 fps, with a Trophy Ridge 400 Blast arrow (Predator vanes) and 100gr. field point. Bow is set at 67 pounds. Thing is, it's very smooth, damn near silent (the guy at the bow shop couldn't get over how quiet it was...he kept saying the arrow striking the target was deafening in comparison to the shot), and just plain fun to shoot. I'm NOT a PSE guy...frankly, I don' t have any real brand loyalty. I just like stuff that works. This bow looks cool, shoots great, and has probably earned a bit of brand loyalty from me. I like the fact that the back wall is impenetrable. It's not an easy bow to shoot well, due to the short axle length, but when it breaks over, it just stops. No give, no mushiness, just solid anchoring, which makes up a bit for the short axle. Additionally, it balances in the hand better than any bow I've ever shot (and I'm admittedly not an expert...I've owned 3 bows; a Pearson Spoiler, a Parker Wildfire XP, and this one, although I tried out a ton of bows before buying this one). I don't know about the customer service from PSE, since I haven't needed it. The bow shop I bought it from isn't anything to write home about.

I'll reiterate what was said before...no hand shock or vibration at all. I'm pretty much using a stock bow, though, although mine did come with some brand of stabilizer (not sure what kind, but probably Vibracheck) and string leeches. It shoots harder than any other bow I've encountered, as well. My friend shoots a Mathews Switchback at the same poundage, and mine consistently out-penetrates his in 3D targets. Quieter, too (but his is an '06 Switchback and mine is an '08 XForce).


You'll love this bow if you shoot it. Thank God for Pete Shepley's return.

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I've been thinking about getting one of these bows just to play around withfor 3-d, my concern is withthe yoke system coupled with the twin cams, have any of you noticed that this bow goes out of tune easilyuntil the bow string is completely settled in?

I've heard so many good things about this bow which is strange to hear about a PSE product, it's been a long time coming.

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Strange to hear about a PSE product??? Almost every bow I've shot has been a PSE and EVERY one has been a great product...a very great product.

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PSE is garbage, shoot a Mathews. :)

RE: PSE X-Force
 

What is this based off of. Did you used to shoot PSE and if so which ones?

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If you are going to get an X-Force, wait for the '09. I shot the new X-Force SS bow today (only one the shop had) and I was very impressed with the feel of the bow. I can't say it was an apples to apples comparison (because it was the SS and not the Dream Season which I want to try), but the shop owners told me the feel is pretty much the same on all of them because they all have the same cams. Anyway, my complaints on the old X-Force was the lack of valley and the letoff (in defense of the bow, I only had it for about a week and the draw length was probably too long). The new X-Forces now have a valley, better letoff, and what appears to be a more accurate draw length. The bow feels so much more comfortable to hold.

I also shot the new Bowtechs as well. They are an improvement over the previous center pivots IMO with a better back wall and letoff. I didn't feel any vibration, but to me the Guardian I had still seemed more quiet. They will definitely be solid bows this year. That being said, they didn't overwhelm me enough to make me want to switch from my current setups (see signature). However, I think the new PSE's could. The SS I shot didn't have any vibration, and noise level felt pretty close to the Bowtechs IMO. With the new feel of the PSE's and added bonus of speed, it would be hard to pass on the new X-Force. I know I'm saving up for one right now.

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Kdberman,

I don't have much experience with PSE so I was not insulting the bow, I just hear time and time again from people (not me) that the bows went into the toilet after Pete Sheppley left the companyand the bows didn't return to glory until his return a couple of years back.

Some guys have way too much product loyalty and get all upset when you say their bow is bad. It's like bashing ford or chevy and getting mad about it, whytake it personal? P.S. I drive Chevy pick up truckso tell me they arejunk and we'll call it even ;-)

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Put it this way, I have always been a die hard Mathews fan, until the X-force 7 came out. Bottom line PSE put out a better product this year. Mathews had nothing that even came close to this bow. I'm not a wagon jumper by any means, but when it came to performance the PSE won. If Mathews had something even in the ballpark I would have bought it. This bow is the most amazing piece of archery equiptment I have ever owned. Buy one you will be happy you did.

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I walked into my local shop and the tech said he had been waiting on me to come in. he had a bow for me to try. It was the x-force 80lb. model already set at my 31 inch draw. I shot it about 50 times and fell in love with it. it is extremely fast, smooth, quiet and very very accurate. Unfortunately i had bought a hoyt about a month before. Wife would not like another bow that soon. But my son has outgrouwn his mathews so i am going to get him one for christmas.

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Haha sounds good cuz Im an F-150 guy.

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The 2009 PSE'sshould be showing up at the shops soon. The Pro Series has the new GX cams and America's Best bowstrings plus other improvements from last year. The mainline has been expanded with the addition of3 Bow Madness bows. These are single cam bows based on the X-Force technology, they will come in 36", 32" and 28 1/2" axle to axle. The "Chaos" is another addition to the lineup, a bow for kids and short draw archers, it will have a full 10 inchs of DL adjustment from 17" to 27". Should be a great year.

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Not every one of the Pro-Series bows will have the ABB strings on. The X-Force TS won't for example. I talked to PSE and they said it was to keep costs down on their "lower end" bows. How in the heck a $700 bare bow is "lower end" is beyond me. lol I've been less than impressed with the customer service from PSE; it's pretty impersonal and not nearly what you would expect from a company selling thousand dollar bows. That said, I love the bow. I ordered my own set of ABB strings for my TS. I haven't gotten them yet, but the service I got from ABB was very friendly, and they shipped a day earlier than I was promised on the phone with Jerry. ABB seemed eager to please, and realized they were taking my money, and were trying to earn it.

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I shot the new GX X-Force today (unfortunately I didn't get to try the Dream Season). All I have to say is, I was going to get one of the new Bowtechs once I saw the release of the new pictures. Well, not anymore. They fixed everything I didn't like about last years X-Force. The draw length is more accurate, it has a valley now, and it has a nice 80% letoff. I can now comfortably sit and hold the bow without it wanting to rip my shoulder out of socket. The bow had no vibration and was pretty quiet as well. Pretty IMPRESSIVE for a speed bow. The only negative I would say about it is that it has kind of an abrupt drop into the valley. But I'd take it anyday just to have that valley now compared to last years model. Plus, I think your muscles will train themselves to the new draw. All I can say is if you are thinking of getting a new bow, try one of the new X-Forces before buying one of the others. I'm saving up right now for a Dream Season.

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I got my new PSEDream Season bow on Friday. I don't have a pro shop around meso I bought one from a dealer who mailed it to me and they sent me the wrong bow, a 70# instead of an80#. The bow is 31" and cranks downto 73LBS. I wasthinking about mailing it back and exchanging it but after shooting it a few times and seeing the speed it delivered made me realize that I didn'tneed an 80# bowso I decided to keep it (plus, I don't think I could stand to wait anymore).

I compared it to all of my other bows, 2 Mathews bows (aConquest3 and aMathewsClassic) anda Bowtech General.Shooting an xx78 arrow, 481 grainand a 404 grain ACC. I got 303 FPS with the xx78, that was 32 fps faster than thecloset competitor(which wasmy200776LB Mathews Classic). I got 324 FPSwith the ACC. I've never been able to get an XX78 to break the 300 fpsbarrier beforeeven with80LB bows.The bow has a smooth andeasy draw cycle for a speed bow, the valley is tight but it's nice and very managable.Withoutanything on the bow string, it was still more quiet than any of my other bows (the General was the closest). It had no hand shock, had great balance and has a comfortable7" brace height to boot. I never in my wildest dreamsthought I'd everbe saying this about a PSE bow and especially a split limb bow as I had nightmares with the Hoyt Trykon split lims when I owned onebutthis PSE Dream Season is the most impressive bow I've ever shot in my life.The last time I shot a PSE bow was a BabyG in the late 90's, what a difference a decade makes!

RE: PSE X-Force
 

Did you get the new '09 version or the old models? The old models are very nice as well, but I think the new ones are more comfortable to shoot, and even faster.

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I love my new X-Force Dream Season. It's quiet, fast, and smooth. I had heard complaints of the draw cycle, but that is definitely not the case with mine. I've taken several deer this season with it, and I look forward to shooting 3Ds with it in the Spring and maybe even Field rounds if it turns out to be easier to shoot accurately than my target bow, which is a possibility.

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I know exactly what you are saying about the muscle training on the rough draw (i shoota general:D) and you really can train your muscles to a rough draw. in fact, when i go to shoot other bows, they are hard for me to draw b/c they arent rough lol!

btw, i wouldnt hesitate to own an xforce now that ive seen them in action. at first i just thought it was some dumb gimmick when they came out a couple years ago, but until last year i would have never believed that pse would make a bow that good. Ive shot tons of bows, and imho it is one of the best bows on the market today.
Derek