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sixgunluvr 05-08-2008 07:36 PM

Epic Stealth or Roscoby Riser Cam
 
Have been wanting to film my own hunts for a long time, I think one of these two items are what I am looking for. Both of these items are new, have you guys heard of these? What do you think? Sorry I didn't provide a link, a google search should get you a look.

sixgunluvr 05-15-2008 06:27 PM

RE: Epic Stealth or Roscoby Riser Cam
 
Anyone?

bigbulls 05-15-2008 10:27 PM

RE: Epic Stealth or Roscoby Riser Cam
 
We are going to be carrying the stealth camera. They are due to ship sometime in June, give or take.
About half the price (about $170+-)and half the sizeof the Roscoby cam. It can also be mounted to the stabilizer instead of having to remove the stabilizer completely.

This is suppose to be a prototype video of the Stealth Epic.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=r4q5rBzS5_M

Another
http://youtube.com/watch?v=u0MYknFvAj0&feature=related

ExtraDeadFred 05-19-2008 08:29 PM

RE: Epic Stealth or Roscoby Riser Cam
 
Just my opinion but I don't think those videos are going to help sell the stealth cam.

bigbulls 05-20-2008 10:48 AM

RE: Epic Stealth or Roscoby Riser Cam
 
Really?

A digital video camera that is no bigger than a small bottle of asprin, that records up to 200 minutes of video to aSD card,that is able to ride down a hill on a mountain bike,still able to getvideo that looks like that, and will retail for about $170.

I'm curious, Exactly what would expect from a unit like this?

I think it is pretty dang good.

ExtraDeadFred 05-20-2008 06:56 PM

RE: Epic Stealth or Roscoby Riser Cam
 
It would have to be as good as the Roscoby. They have alot of videos, just about everything they have on their site was shot with their cam. I mean the Stealth Cam may be as good, but justbased onthose videos I would pay the $350 for the Roscoby. I know those are "prototype" videos and they were posted back last november so I think Stealth could come up with some better videos than that. Another thing that hurts the Stealth is that there is nothing on their website about the cam, I had to find everything from other sites. They should have videos on their website promoting their product. To me, without anythingabout it on their site, it makes me think they don't have much confidence in it.

However, the Stealth has size, weight and price on their side. If they can come up with some videos to convince me to buy it, I will. This is going to be a popular product, but I just need a little more convincing. ;)

bigbulls 05-20-2008 07:34 PM

RE: Epic Stealth or Roscoby Riser Cam
 
I don't know. Judging from the video of the doeRoscoby put on their web site and the ones I could find on youtube I think they are pretty equal.

You gotta remember that the Stealth camera is mounted to a mountain bike that is traveling at about 15 mph down a rocky mountain trail. Pretty tough for any camera to get high quality images. The videos of the Roscoby seemed to be equally grainy when the camera was moved around a lot.

Ido agree that Stealth neeeds to get it on their web site and post some hunting video for us to view.

ExtraDeadFred 05-21-2008 06:03 PM

RE: Epic Stealth or Roscoby Riser Cam
 
Like I said just from video alone I would buy the Roscoby right now... but as soon as Stealth shows some video I may change my mind :)

vendo 05-30-2008 02:46 PM

RE: Epic Stealth or Roscoby Riser Cam
 
Check out this web site for some good videos from a moving Epic Stealth Cam

www.epicstealthcam.com

These are also prototype videos, but they look pretty good.

Orion in IL 06-03-2008 09:57 PM

RE: Epic Stealth or Roscoby Riser Cam
 
Thanks for the EPIC link.

I have been going on the main stealth cam web page and actually called them a month ago to get this type of information.
I spoke with a Cabelas rep the other day and they said the new availability date was 6/15/08.

I really believe the hat mount for the EPIC will allow for much steadier video that the Roscoby, which seem the only mount option is as a stabilizer.

I also saw the Roscoby and have to say that the doe video was extremely shaky.

My only concern is recording in the woods in low light conditions.

If either can show a still video at dawn and dusk in the woods, under a canopy of leaves (early season) and the video quality is good - I will place my order immediately.





vendo 06-05-2008 01:19 PM

RE: Epic Stealth or Roscoby Riser Cam
 
I agree. I also think that with the hat clip I can watch the deer come in, and follow the deer after the shot. With the Roscoby you basically only get the shot.

For the price, it's worth a try.
I've got one on order at Cabela's, their customer service is the best, if you don't like it, just return it.

wis_bow_huntr 06-06-2008 05:13 AM

RE: Epic Stealth or Roscoby Riser Cam
 
WOW i may just have to get one!

bowhuntnsteve 06-14-2008 07:59 PM

RE: Epic Stealth or Roscoby Riser Cam
 
I have not seen the roscoby, but the Epic is waterproof. I can't wait to get mine this week!

Orion in IL 06-17-2008 09:06 PM

RE: Epic Stealth or Roscoby Riser Cam
 
Cabelas is now saying September 30.

Too late for me.

I need some time to test drive before the Oct. 1 opener.

Maybe I will get it next year.



sixgunluvr 06-18-2008 12:16 AM

RE: Epic Stealth or Roscoby Riser Cam
 

ORIGINAL: Orion in IL

Cabelas is now saying September 30.


Why don't you just order from somewhere else?
http://cgi.ebay.com/STEALTH-CAM-EPIC...QQcmdZViewItem

30PTBUCK 06-18-2008 11:44 AM

RE: Epic Stealth or Roscoby Riser Cam
 
I recently bought a camera by Oregon Scientific on ebay it costs with S&H around $90 I actually mounted it to my Benelli SBE and with 31/2 shells and got a pretty good video of a turkey hunt of course the image was blurred during the shot but no more so than the images I've seen on the Roscoby site using a bow.The camera comes with attachments for handle bars ,this is what I used for the shot gun, and for hats. The camera is much smaller than Roscoby and can be used underwater! see the Oregon Scienticfic website for footage only drawback is the controls can be difficult and there is only a 1 hour recording time

Orion in IL 06-18-2008 08:59 PM

RE: Epic Stealth or Roscoby Riser Cam
 
[blockquote]quote:

ORIGINAL: Orion in IL

Cabelas is now saying September 30.


[/blockquote]
Why don't you just order from somewhere else?
http://cgi.ebay.com/STEALTH-CAM-EPIC-DIGITAL-ACTION-HUNTING-SPORTS-CAMERA_W0QQitemZ330243720657QQihZ014QQcategoryZ525 05QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


USING CABELAS CLUB POINTS - UNFORTUNATELY

sixgunluvr 06-18-2008 10:45 PM

RE: Epic Stealth or Roscoby Riser Cam
 
Here's a sample of the Roscoby and Epic Stealth from U Tube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNZAf_7LZ_8&feature=related

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ldOMqbdcu...eature=related

silbowhunter 06-19-2008 08:01 AM

RE: Epic Stealth or Roscoby Riser Cam
 

ORIGINAL: 30PTBUCK

I recently bought a camera by Oregon Scientific on ebay it costs with S&H around $90 I actually mounted it to my Benelli SBE and with 31/2 shells and got a pretty good video of a turkey hunt of course the image was blurred during the shot but no more so than the images I've seen on the Roscoby site using a bow.The camera comes with attachments for handle bars ,this is what I used for the shot gun, and for hats. The camera is much smaller than Roscoby and can be used underwater! see the Oregon Scienticfic website for footage only drawback is the controls can be difficult and there is only a 1 hour recording time
Is this the cam your talking about ?

check out the last video clip. LOL

http://cgi.ebay.com/WIRELESS-HELMET-CAM-CAMERA-ATC2K-ATC-2000-AT18-ATC2000_W0QQitemZ320264373206QQihZ011QQcategoryZ48 514QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Orion in IL 07-01-2008 09:28 PM

RE: Epic Stealth or Roscoby Riser Cam
 
Finally caught it in stock at Cabelas last Thursday. I ordered it immediately. It was delivered yesterday. I tested it a little bit last night and this morning.

Initial review: 1. it will not work well in low light conditions (in the woods and dawn and dusk and in cloudy/dark weather) and
2. the audio is not very good
3. The packaging was incredibly wasteful and obnoxious - they must be betting on getting shelf space at brick and mortar retailers

Posted this test on YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtGJ6IDxPPA

I will continue to test under different conditions.

Orion in IL 07-27-2008 10:04 PM

RE: Epic Stealth or Roscoby Riser Cam
 
Finally had a little time to play with this again today.

I have found that it is going to be very difficult to position the camera on your hat, turn it on, and have it positioned correctly to catch the action.

Also, you will not be able to see your arrow hit the target.

I was using the lower resolution setting today.
I am going to try again with the max 640 x 480 in the next few weeks and then I will post again on YouTube.

This may only prove to be a toy instead of something of a great value to the hunting experience.



Orion in IL 07-31-2008 08:57 PM

RE: Epic Stealth or Roscoby Riser Cam
 
Well, here is the link to the new video.

It is high res (640 x 480).
20 yard shot
Using the hat clip.

I just don't know if this will be an effective method for a bow hunt.

You have to press the M button twice and then the S button once to get it started.

The hat mount is very sensitive, so even if you are lucky and position it right, once you press the buttons 3 times, you may have moved it too far to get a shot at what you want.

I needed to look at the target longer after the shot, bear with me.

I need to test the other mount option...maybe mounted to the actual bow somewhere (stabilizer?)
This is probably a huge benefit to the Roscoby.

However, I wanted the flexibility of the Epic to be able to video dove, teal hunts and fishing trips.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqDCXc8_Rcs



sixgunluvr 08-03-2008 01:30 AM

RE: Epic Stealth or Roscoby Riser Cam
 
Here's a new video cam I haven't seen, anyone know anything about it?
http://www.bowhunterssuperstore.com/...ra-p-8552.html

sixgunluvr 08-05-2008 04:16 PM

RE: Epic Stealth or Roscoby Riser Cam
 

ORIGINAL: sixgunluvr

Here's a new video cam I haven't seen, anyone know anything about it?
http://www.bowhunterssuperstore.com/gameplan-video-recorder-camera-p-8552.html
Anyone?




midsouth_hunter 08-09-2008 03:01 PM

RE: Epic Stealth or Roscoby Riser Cam
 
Just got the EPIC Stealth and so far not too impressed. It comes with a Hat clip. No Bow mount. How are you suppose to use it to film your shot. It comes with a tree screw in. Have not used it to check the video yet. Considering taking it back to Bass Pro. Just does not seem to be quality accesories/mounts. Let me know if anybody else is having the same thoughts..

Orion in IL 08-13-2008 09:14 PM

RE: Epic Stealth or Roscoby Riser Cam
 

ORIGINAL: midsouth_hunter

Just got the EPIC Stealth and so far not too impressed. It comes with a Hat clip. No Bow mount. How are you suppose to use it to film your shot. It comes with a tree screw in. Have not used it to check the video yet. Considering taking it back to Bass Pro. Just does not seem to be quality accesories/mounts. Let me know if anybody else is having the same thoughts..
Yes, I am having the same thoughts, however I want to try to strap it to my left arm while I shoot to see if I get better results than with the hat clip.

midsouth_hunter 08-14-2008 10:45 AM

RE: Epic Stealth or Roscoby Riser Cam
 
I have been playing with it and I still cannot get any decent video with it. In bright sunlight it seems to be the best but that is still not good. I beleive I am taking it back to Bass Pro. They will take it back within 30 days

prsegfd51 08-17-2008 07:36 PM

RE: Epic Stealth or Roscoby Riser Cam
 
bought epic about 1 month ago. attached to my mathews. video isnt good enough to see arrow placement at 20 yrds but you'll get a good video of the deer. [I was thinking of using luminoks]
does not record well in low light conditions, but that does'nt matter because you'll never find the buttons or know if it is recording in the dark. also shuts off after 5 min of no use [unit needs a led to know that it is recording] for a bow mount strap it right to your stabilizer. let me know if this helps

Curshman 10-14-2008 11:06 AM

RE: Epic Stealth or Roscoby Riser Cam
 
I tested the Roscoby in low light. It works decent. I tested it on Oct 8th from about 6:35 pm to 7:15 PM which was sunset in Western PA. From 6:35 P I had a decent picture and it did get increasingly grainy as it got darker but I had viewable video up untill about 10 minutes before dark. I have the video but I'm not sure how to post it so you all can see it. As far as the shakiness goes, it is all on the shooter as to how well he or she can remain a statue during the release. In the video of me practicing with it you can see I get better with each shot at holding it still. It is something that you have to practice with recording some shots and then look at the video to figure out what you need to do to get the shot. I also recorded a little 4 point in normal morning light in the shade before the sun actually broke out above the trees to provide bright sunlight. The camera is set up to see where your site is aiming so basically you have to keep your site on what you want to see. I'm posting a snapshot from the video of my 3 shot group at 6:45 PM. This is at 20 yds. The camera is pretty easy to use. the Pwr button has a three second delay but once the camera is on and in standby mode, pressing record starts the recording instantly. The indicator lights are bright and on the top so they could be an issue in low light as far as the deer seeing them goes but a little tape covering them some works out. It will stay on in standby mode just about all morning with the recommended batteries.







Curshman 10-14-2008 11:29 AM

RE: Epic Stealth or Roscoby Riser Cam
 
Here is a snapshot of the 4 point from the video I took at about 8:30 am Oct.10th at almost the same distance as the target I posted. The field of view is larger than the pics. I had to make them smaller to upload them.


[email protected] 10-18-2010 10:42 AM

Does anyone know why the website: www.roscoby.com does not work? Does anyone have a ph # for their customer service? I have put in new batteries and will not turn on. Thanks

sixgunluvr 11-06-2010 08:52 PM

website
 

Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 3704674)
Does anyone know why the website: www.roscoby.com does not work? Does anyone have a ph # for their customer service? I have put in new batteries and will not turn on. Thanks

This is an old thread and I'm not sure why their website doesn't work but.... I decided to buy a Panasonic SDR-S26 Camcorder that I mounted on a bowpix mount and couldn't be happier. It has a 70x zoom and is not much larger than a pack of cigarettes. I have a video of a kill shot in the bowhunting section. Got it for $225 on Ebay.


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