ultimate camo
 

Has anyone seen or purchased this camo yet?

http://www.ultimatecamo.com/store/shop/

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Only seen it in threads like this. It looks just great, but what if you aren't hunting next to a tree? Would it blend in as well in an aspen thicket? How about open prarie?

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For me, I would mostly be interested in themfor Spring Globbler. I live in central PA and most of my setups are against a hardwood tree. As for archery hunting out of a treestand, I'm not so surethey would work so well. I was wondering if they might havethat blob affect if a deer was approaching from the side and not coming straight at you. As for on the ground, I thought they might blend in rather well in the hardwoods that is. Just wonderingif anyonehas actually seenor purchased these.

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I agree that if you are in a tree stand on a large live oak tree it would be great, anywhere else it would be just so so.

Ofcourse hunting in south texas i have the problem of 1 camo company catering to our needs (Bushlan)
http://www.bushlancamo.com/

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I gotta believe it would be great in brush also.

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You may just look like adead tree that's been broke off around six foot if you were standing out in the open... :D

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Looks like an updated version of the old Treebark pattern. Probably great for turkey hunting.

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When I first saw this camo I was very intriqued. The more I see it the more I am very impressed. I went ahead and ordered some and it came promptly. I am still very impressed with it. I really look forward to using it this spring turkey season. It's very impressive in it's field shots with no staged photos. I honestly think a turkey or deer could pretty much stick their nose on you if you don't move and eliminate your scent. (Like the Geico Lizard, that's a complete dramatization of course but I think you get my point).:D

Very impressive and you'll be supporting one of HNI's own plus a sponsor here.

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I ordered a set and i love it. Really excited about spring gobbler season with it. Like others have said, i'm not sure how well it will work out in the open but i know you really disappear when against a variety of tree's.

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Rob, How was the quality and the sizingof the outfit? I am thinking about ordering some also but I didn't know whether to wait and see what other materials they are coming out with. They said on there website "in the future wewill be offering other fabric choices including new high tech fabric options". I would like to see it done in buckskin or wolfskin. I think I will contact them to see when the new fabric will be available.

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i think in the next year i will end up ordering some
it looks great!!!

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LOL with a big trunk.

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Quality is exceptional. I was actually surprisingly impressed, very impressed. The stitching is of high quality etc.

I wear a 32 inch waist, I ordered the medium pants. They fit perfect in my waist, they are a little long as I'm not that long legged at 5'10, probably a 34" inseam on the pants, not an issue of course.

I wear anything from a L to an XL shirt and in the button up shirt I actually returned the XL for a L and they had no problem doing that. The XL which fit my shoulders, was big in the waist line. Seems the clothing is for the big and tall and I'm more of a "fit" guy. The large fit perfectly. I like the face mask and gloves and in the Jacket I did get the XL and it's perfect. I also received a hat, good quality.

I'd be anxious to see other materials as well. Especially Wolfskin or an equivelant.

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Thanks for the info Rob and Fatsbucknut. I am glad to hear such good reviews. I was going to wait for the Eastern Outdoor Show in Harrisburg and check them out there but I think I'm going to order them now just in case I wouldn't make it there in Feb. I want to make sure I get to try them out this spring. I do very well in spring globbler season every yearbut that'snot to say I don't get busted. I think this camo will give me that one moreextra advantage. We'll find out.

I emailed UltimateCamo and they said they are going to be adding fleece to their line-up and alsoin the future will be offering other fabric choices including new high tech fabric options includinga breathable waterproofing treatment embedded in the material. Also cold weather gear.

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That in itself is exciting and I look forward to meeting Andy in Harrisburg for the first time.

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If you can, try and make it to the show as you will save on shipping and Im going to be offering HNI members and additional discounton top ofthe show specials. I really wish I could get the shipping costs down but its a pretty standard cost from UPS, FedX, USPS etc. That could save you some good money. I'll make a moreformal post about the HNI discount in another week or so. If you cant make the show I'll still hook you up with a HNI show discount but I will have to give you a discount code before you order.

Andy

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I have a real hard time jumping on this ultimate camo "band wagon". IMO ultimate is definetly the wrong name cause it sure as heck isn't going to work anywhere.I can only see it being effective in very limited situations.

Honestly, unless you are sitting tight against a very largeoak or pine and the animal comes in exactly so you are in line with the tree you will just stick out like a sore thumb.

What about Western hunting? Sure it will work if you only hunt in dark timber but what happens if you near an alpine meadow or aspen thicket orjuniper thicket?

What about treestand hunting where you will be sky lined? You are going to look like a big-ole dark human standing there.

What about spot and stalk out in the open or even in thick woods? You cartainly aren't going to blend in when you are trying to slip through the woods.

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Bigbulls, sorry you dont like the pattern or the company name, I respect your opinons and views as its impossible to make everyone happy. If you dont mind, I have2 question I would love for you to answer honestly.
1) What pattern in your opinion would work better in the pictures below,basically if you could just swap clothes on the hunter?
2) What camo do you sell at the Pro Shop you work at?

This patternwas designed for hunting hardwoods, not for spot and stalk out West. As for the front and side view debate, unfortunately, you cant have the best of both worlds from a straight on view and from a side view. Deer are unpredictable, but I think most people set up their stand hoping deer will approach from the front or at least pass by from the front, as its easier to see them coming, your dont have to move as much to look around behind the tree, gives your more timeto prepare fora better shot opportunity, and usually we face the wind. And even from the side it still woks just fine, it looks like a tree trunk, not like a bush atatched to the side of a tree trunk 25 feet up.From behind, it doesnt really matter as the deer cant see what your wearing.Doyou have anyfield pics of your best hardwoods tree stand camo from a frontal or straight on position just for comparison pictures, in a tree stand, with no foliage,as thats as real as it gets, no hiding or faking anything.Should be easy for you todo this time of year in case you dont have any.Unfortunately you havent had a chance to actually see it in the woods or in person to make any real analysis or review of the pattern, and neither did all the deer I shot this year ;). Ive had great success with deer encounters as have many others as you can see in the "Success Shots" on the web site. Thanks for youropinion thoughbigbulls.

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Like I said above. In those pics you are taking them from directly in line with the tree. That's the one place it will do well from what I can see.
We sell RT and MO but IMO those aren't any better either. I have been trying to get ASAT and/ or predator fall gray and brownin our store for three years now but the owner won't bite because they do not market their product like RT and MO does. IMO these two patterns are the two best on the market right now (yes I have seen allof the enigma pics)because they break up the outline better than any other I have seen with ASAT being the "ultimate" camo IMO.

I wish you wellwith this butthe tree bark pattern is a very limiting pattern IMO.

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Bigbull

I own all of the above camos you mention

ASAT
Predator
Engima 1 & 2
UltimateCamo

There is no one size fits all. I go by setup, and I am hunting big woods without a doubt I am taking UltimateCamo these days,

I have hunted in
Walnut
Maple
Red Oak

If I have a big sold tree trunk behind I want to blend in as much as poosible. If I do not I want to be as open as possible.

You can never have too much camo:D
Good luck

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I too am excited about this Camo, and own a complete set.After talking to Andy via PM and Email,I can say to people like Bigbulls, that when Andy asks you a question, it's not an attempt to discredit you. He truly wants another hunters insight! It gets his wheels churning.

This pattern is his starting point. It sounds as though, as thing progress, he would like to address more terrain specific patterns. But he had to start with the product that would be used by the higher number of individuals. This product fits the way MOST of us hunt, in conditions and terrains that MOST of us see. This product will work in The Midwest, The North, The South and the East. Yes, the Western Hunter may have to be morechoosey on when he can wear Original UC.

Like Germ and probably many others. I own many sets of Camo from many companies (camo junky lol).From mainstream RT and MO in various patterns and colors to ASAT, Field and Stream, Gamehide, Leafy wear..evenlesser knowncompanies such as God's Country, just to name a few.

If you think about it will any of these do a better job in disguising you from the front, and in the case of being "caught" from the side (such as if you were out on the end of your stand). I believe the 3d aspect would be confusing enough to the depth perception of your quarry, that the pattern would allow you to blend into the back-ground trees.

As someone who hunts 75% of the time on public land, I've tried to wear the pattern that would best blend in with my intended spot. Many times I get there and someone else has ruined my plans. Then when I adjust on the fly, I find the pattern I choose that day does not "fit" the new situation. I believe that UC will allow me to be more flexible and blend in, in nearly every situation, planned or otherwise..kinda like... forget the pattern, "Just Hunt"

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Thnx Germ and GR8, and fair enough bigbulls.GR8 is correct, I meant no disrespect, I only asked what camo would work better so we could make some kind of visual analysis. Being as you dont like the 2 patterns you sell, the second question is irrelevant. Its all about how you set up your stand, use camo to your advantage, you wouldnt use a green pattern in a stand when no leaves are up, but you can use our pattern in any season, leaves onlyenhance our pattern.I will say Predator and ASAT make some cool stuff and worked well in some of the side view pictures especially. Ive spent the last 3 years in the field, taking over 5,000 pictures of my camo and of just about every camo pattern out there in every season for comparison pictures and to study, from far, close, shade, sunlight, side views, front views, ground, tree stands, ......probably more than just about anyone on the planet. I have a dedicatedHP ProliantDL385 server with four 36gb drives to store all the pictures on.Most of you would cringe athow"some" of the patterns actually look in tree stands from the frontal 120 deg view which is where "most" deer I shoot are.Here are some pics with more of a side view for you bigbulls.I have thousands, but have to go thru them all and find side view shots just for you : )My pictures dont lie, any deer walking by those hunters below would be going on the grill. C'mon bigbulls, get out there and take some front and side view pictures for us, its actually alot fun seeing hunters in different patternsfrom a deers perspective, the hard part is getting willing subjects to stand out there for hours, changing clothes, climbing back up etc...

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diesel77 do you plan on attending any shows in Ohio to displaythe Ultimate Camo line?

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Not this year, next year we will be at a few Ohio shows. However, Im not sure but GR8 may be attendingsome Ohioshows this yearand will be wearing some of the clothes around for us.

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Thanks--- I was referring to the Ohio deer and turkey show in Columbus on March 14 thru the 16 to get a good look at it and buy some at the booth if you all where coming.

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Wow Andy, great looking photos.

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Probably the wrong forum to say this, but put me on the ground with my back to the base of a tree, and there won't be a safe turkey out there. Great pics. I really like the one on the previous pagewhere the sun is shining on the subject and the tree.The camojust blends in so well. Ialways try to stay out of the sun when setting up on a turkey but sometimesyou just can't. Turkeys will bust you in a heartbeatwith so much better vision than deer.

Let me tell ya'll a story. I had questions about this gear. It took them a week to answer each of my emails. They will not answer their phone. Their message is less than professional. These people do not know how to run a business. I ordered the gear anyway and it is great stuff for the money. The fleece jacket is worth the money. I have a small problem about the shirt. It is a different run of material and is definitely more brown than the rest of the gear. I emailed them about it and have received no response for over 2 weeks. I offered my assistance in coordinating customer responses due to their lack of understanding, or unwillingness, to deal with customer relations. Maybe that was insulting but, having run my own retail operation, I know that "word of mouth" advertising is the best there is. Just because you have a website doesn't make you a business. I have yet to hear from them and I wonder, if I had a real problem with my order, would I just be stuck with it?
Bottom line, the gear is really good stuff but, with their lack of response, I would be leery to deal with them until they get their act together.