whisker vs drop away
 

i currently use a whisker bicuit but thought about changing toa drop away.(the one with the cord attatched to the cable)the reason is better speed.can any one tell me how much difference there is between the two and if its even worth it.any advise on this would be appreciated.




MAKING STEAM IN OHIO

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I am currently about to switch back to a drop away. The minor increase in speed is not much to write home about. I think the drop away adds an element of forgiveness to the setup, and there is also the wear issue with the WB. Those bristles gradually wear down and, as they do, your tune and point of impact changes a bit. I have also had an infrequent issue with small diameter arrows wanting to slip out of the hole down into the bristles. Going to test one of the new containment drop aways for the next few months. Can always go back to the WB - which has, so far, served me pretty well for hunting.

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Maybe 2 fps....this comes from otherpeople testing the speed dif,I beleave one guy just about lost 3 fps but the norm is 1-2.......
Ive used the WB since it came out on the market and havnt looked back.......They also did mud,sand.slush,water,Ice and snowit didnt effect it enough to make any big differance.Ive never used a dropaway but I think there are afew things that I wouldnt want in it when out hunting.........Kinda like hunting with a recurve it's pretty much maintanance free.....

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On the Mathews forum there is a thread that measures the speed drop when using a WB. If I remember the diameter of the shaft compared to the opening of the WB has something to do with the speed drop. Tighter the slower the arrow but the biggest difference was 5 fps slower using the WB.

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full contain drop aways are pretty cool. The Kaz away by vital bow gear is a really really impressive rest.
The Bowtech hostage is really growing on me, they just need to make shims for smaller arrows. All the joys of a whisker and no loss in speed.

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hard to beat the reliability of a rest with zero moving parts, nothing to "tune", nothing to break, etc... so you lose 1-2fps, BFD... for hunting, if you've already got a WB, hard to justify a 100 dollar drop away... setting up an all new bow, well, maybe a bit easier to justify, but only if you can accept the inherent fact that moving parts sometimes break and get stuck... I'd hate to have one shot at a 150" buck only to have my drop away fail, and we all know murphy is a rotten SOB, if its gonna fail, it'll fail at the worst possible time... I not knocking DA rests, i like 'em a lot... and if i had extra coin floatin around i'd get one (probably a QAD pro HD), but frankly there's a long list of other things I need before I'm gonna replace the biscuit...

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with the proper arrow and WB you should have a fingernail of light on the top then narrowing off to the 9 and 3 O clock position.
and yes you can have too much and too little this is on of the biggest tuning problems people have nxt to not having the vains set right witch should be 12-4-8 oclock ruffly....I shoot ICS 340's and never have had a problem........

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Once you get decent from and shot consistency, the WB is a really safe and dependable arrow rest......just make sure you papertune your bow....

Frank.

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Thanks for the input fellows.I was starting to second guess my choice but i have been shooting for about 5 months (when i got my new bow) and have had no problems with the biscuit.Just wondering about speed and 1 -3 fps isnt worth changing anything.




MAKING STEAM IN OHIO

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Oh...the speed factor...I know its tough. Stick with the Whisker Biscuit. I freak out at anyting other than a Whisker Biscuit. Ever since I owned a whisker biscuit I have never paid attention to my rest while drawing or worried about an arrow moving off the rest.

So yougain 6 feet per second. Unless you're in a contest with your buddies on a free 12 pack stay with the whisker biscuit. Even at 50 yards that deer will never know if your arrow is going285 or 292 fps. Think low maintenance....low maintenance....zero issues in the field....

this is only my opinion...

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Dropaway!!;)

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I had a WB when I did a lot of stalking. A few years ago, I switched to nothing but stand hunting. Tried a few drop-aways, found that the Trophy Ridge Drop Zone worked best for me. Love it to death.

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go with the dropaway...i LOVE mine... so does my dad and my uncles..... and all the guys at the bowshop we go to.

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I starte with a WB but I noticed that it kept warping my veins. I changed to a NAP Quicktune which I liked except it didn't fully contain the arrow so I recently switched to a Trophytaker Extreme FC which I reallly like.

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That's a good point, normal veins will start to warp. To avoid that issue you'll want to switch to blazer veins...

From a pure hunting standpoint, I don't believe there is a better rest...

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I got a Hostage rest for my Marquis and i like it, only thing is my blazers are rubbing on one side but i still need to tune my bow and i'll see if it will keep rubbing the side or not. I find it quieter than the WB. I personally prefer the Hostage over the WB.


Mat

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The WB was starting to warp my blazers too, Not as bad as the 4" but still did a bit.

Mat

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The Hostage rest has all the advantages without the disadvantage of the constant contact:D

Dan

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Zero contact with arrow and rest after the release. With a tuned bow you get perfect arrow flight..Drop Away. IMO.

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The scissor rest by NAP is the one I have had my eye on. To me it has the all the benefits of a WB and a DA. I have seen several guys shooting this rest at the pro shop (40 yard indoor range) and they have had not problems with it.
http://www.newarchery.com/#/product check it out. I know some do not like this company but I seem to like this product. This is pricy I think around 100-125.00

I like my Trophy taker DA but the arrow sometimes will fall out of the slot (not the rest) before I shoot and I don’t always notice. When this happens I have very erratic arrow flight and messed up fletching. So stalking deer wit it is a pain. Also when I let my drawn arrow down, it likes to fall away and I have to reposition. Not a big deal but if I had the money then I think I would buy this rest.

For those that don’t know, you arrow fits inside the clamps and when you shoot they fly open, but lets say your opportunity to shoot is no longer and you need to let you bow down. This will not fly open since there was not enough inertia to spring the rest.

They don’t seem to be to loud either. I may up grade in a year

If you want to stay economic and good performance go with the WB but they may have to be replaced. Great for stalking deer since you arrow will not fall out as easy.

If you want the highest possible speed and accuracy but risk mechanical break down go with a DA (some can add noise to your bow) not good for stalking deer.

If you want the best of both worlds try the scissor rest but it is pricy. IMO

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Ihave never shot a WB but I do shoot an Ultra drop away rest. I love it. It's more accurate and makes my bow shoot alot flatter. I was able to start using one pin for 20 and 30 yrd shots.

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There is no way to compare them to each other. They work completely different on the shot. The drop away there is no pivot point and the wb there is. If the bow riser moves on the shot before the arrow clears the rest it will effect the shot because the arrow still riding the rest and the farther your rest is away form the pivot point ( straight over your hand on the handle are the hole in the riser is on the pivot point ) more it will be off the target.

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I have shot both the WB and a Few Drop aways. The WB is great, easy to tune rest, but unless you are stalking 90% of the time I dont see why you couldent use something other than the WB to get back your 2fps. But the 2fps sould be the least of your concerns. The WB can and I have seen it cause dammage to veins and feather after a time, and the bristles to wear out on them. I switched to the Muzzy Zero Effect rest and have not looked back. This rest is hated by many, because it does take a lil patients and know how to get it right, but, once it is right it is going to stay there FOREVER! It is not fully containment, but if you are in a shooting position while drawing you bow the arrow WILL NOT fall off of this rest and it is also really forgiving. Thats just my 2 cents.

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I like the QAD Ultra-Rest, holds the arrow in place, words like bread and butter and I do not have to buy any replacement biscuits.
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Anyone have an old WB they want to get rid of? I've been think about getting one. I was told to check at some Pro Shops to see if they got any used ones to sell. Not sure of many shops in my area.

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drop away all the way dont like any thing thats going to touch or mess with my flechings

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I was watching a hunting show the other night, the guy had to slightly lean to the left as he drew his bow, arrow fell off of his rest (THAT's why they call them Drop Aways!) the 150 inch buck trotted away. I thought to myself "I bet he wishes he had a Biskit".
That's all that I need to know.

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Well, I got my QAD Ultra Rest in last night and mounted it on my 2005 Hoyt Protec. Before removing the Whisker Biscuit, I took careful measurements of the where the arrow lies relative to the bottom and side of the arrow shelf - because the bow was tuned perfectly with the WB. Pretty easy deal to set up. It was a little noisy until I attached the camo mole skin they provide. Went out this morning and shot about 50 arrows. Point of impact was right where it was with the WB - and, although this bow shot well with the WB, it shoots even better with the QAD. I was playing with deliberately torquing my grip, and am convinced that this rest is more forgiving than the WB. Right now, I don't see a downside to the switch. We'll see what time in the field reveals.

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Never shot a WB but I do like the concept. I use a Zero Effect. No contact, no noise, no possible chance of failure, no worries afield. I agree speed is not really a huge point either way. Most folks that shoot a MZE don't go back to anything else. Good luck.

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DROP AWAY... DROP AWAY... DROP AWAY!!!!

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For hunting I use the WB you dont have any worries about arrow fall offs,,if you use it on just a hunting bow that you practice with regularly the wear on feathers or vanes is minimal,if you use it on a target or 3D bow you will notice wear after time.IMO the WB is the best hunting rest out there,I have several other rest on other bows,but if I am not using one of my recurves hunting,I'll be hunting with my martin compound with that ugly WB,it's not pretty but its very effective.