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09mjl01 08-08-2007 12:37 PM

slick tricks vs. muzzy
 
Slick tricks vs. Muzzy
i am new to archery and need to decide on a broadhead to shoot this fall. i have heard great things about both of these. the slick trick 100s and the muzzy mx-3 and mx-4. they both seem very alike to me as far as design but was wondering if anyone has found any differences between them. also which you prefer.

Buffinator 08-08-2007 01:11 PM

RE: slick tricks vs. muzzy
 
I've only shot Muzzy MX-4's, and love them on the range. Have yet to see what they do to an animal though. Haven't heard anything about Slick Tricks yet though.

live2hunt009 08-08-2007 02:32 PM

RE: slick tricks vs. muzzy
 
i jus picked up the MX-3 im a three blade fan but i havent got my new broadhead target so i personally havent shot them yet.

09mjl01 08-08-2007 02:43 PM

RE: slick tricks vs. muzzy
 
if your a fan of the slick tricks do you use the standard or the magnum 100


Nick Hull 08-08-2007 04:16 PM

RE: slick tricks vs. muzzy
 
I shoot Muzzys as well as my brothers my little brother tried the slick tricks and we were not very impressed they fell apart from shooting them. so i would have to say go with the Muzzys

passthru79 08-08-2007 04:32 PM

RE: slick tricks vs. muzzy
 
My biggest complaint with muzzy was that the blades almost always were mangeled and lots of times the furrel bent just on going thru a bit of shoulder blade. The new ones seem to be a bit stronger but still not a fan. I shoot G5 Strikers that have a steel furrel and havent had a problem yet.

Greg / MO 08-08-2007 08:33 PM

RE: slick tricks vs. muzzy
 
I shot the Slick Trick Magnums last year. No complaints, but I'll be using the Muzzy MX-3's this year.

09mjl01 08-08-2007 09:02 PM

RE: slick tricks vs. muzzy
 
are there any technical differences in a 4 blade and a 3 blade. i know the 4 blade will catch more wind but will that guide it better or not. do you only shooof 3 blade and 4 blade.

yajsab 08-09-2007 09:55 AM

RE: slick tricks vs. muzzy
 
I used to shoot muzzy 3blades. I switched to slick trick and I'm happier. This is just my experience. Slick trick flies much more consistent. I still shoot the muzzy for deer and will be using the mx3 this year. Slick trick is strictly for elk. Magnum or standard? Well, I have both in the quiver. If the area around my stand is very open, I use the magnum. If not, I use the standard. They fly the same so just preference.

Chasebaker 08-09-2007 11:47 AM

RE: slick tricks vs. muzzy
 
MUZZY MAN!!!! BAD TO THE BONE....definatly tru! Ever seen Dan Fitzgerald's Swamp Bucks....back when he was shooting a Wing Bow.Hey shot straight thru the new Metal Barrel...it was empressive..the only thing wrong with his arrow is that a Fletching came off.I am going to try the Metal Barrel trick and get it on video!!!!!!!

09mjl01 08-09-2007 12:18 PM

RE: slick tricks vs. muzzy
 
looks like either way i go i should be pleased. i shoot 29" and around 60# if that makes any difference. the only shop close to me is bass pro but they dont sell slick trick so i guess i will try the muzzy first probably mx-3.

yajsab 08-09-2007 12:38 PM

RE: slick tricks vs. muzzy
 
Why don't you buy a pack of mx3 from BP and order a pack of slick trick from Gary himself. This way you have both. Unless you plan to carry just 3 heads in the quiver.

davepjr71 08-09-2007 01:13 PM

RE: slick tricks vs. muzzy
 
Don't overlook the Wac'em Exits. They're a 4 blade BH that did well during testing, are very sharp and very durable.

This is my first yr trying them out. However, after putting 1through a target and then almost the whole way through a pallet (back side of blades were even with wood)and then pulling it out with my BH puller I'm impressed with the strength of the head.

RTA47 08-09-2007 01:45 PM

RE: slick tricks vs. muzzy
 

ORIGINAL: 09mjl01

looks like either way i go i should be pleased. i shoot 29" and around 60# if that makes any difference. the only shop close to me is bass pro but they dont sell slick trick so i guess i will try the muzzy first probably mx-3.
Absolutly! you can`t go wrong with ether one of these heads No matter which one you choose? ether onewill get the job done.
There both great broadheads.

Oldhootowl 08-09-2007 02:55 PM

RE: slick tricks vs. muzzy
 
2007 100 and 125 grain Tricks have ferrules of steelway stronger than aluminum, stronger than 416 stainless, stronger than molded (MIM) heads, and stronger than Titanium. They come with 4Solingen Germany Lutz razor sharp .035 blades. With Alcatraz Bladelock they are supremely strong, and blow a great holewith 4 blades. Wood, steel drums, cinder blocks, any animal, they are good to go.

Flight, number of blades don't matter, Tricks began the super short revolution back in 2000 with the 100 Mag outflying the old best selling 3 blade heads due to their outstanding aerodynamics. Hope that helps.

rookiebowhuntr_PA 08-13-2007 03:13 PM

RE: slick tricks vs. muzzy
 
A couplepics of a groundhog Ishot in my back yard with the Slick Trick Magnum 100 Gr. Great flight! Can't wait to see what they do to a deer.

the one pick is blurry - sorry i had the camera on the wrong setting!

http://s104.photobucket.com/albums/m162/ksimms1207/?action=view&current=exit.jpg
http://s104.photobucket.com/albums/m162/ksimms1207/?action=view&current=entry.jpg

passthru79 08-13-2007 04:41 PM

RE: slick tricks vs. muzzy
 
Oldhootowl, I could be wrong here but I was under the impression that titanium was stronger than steel. Regardless if it is a slick trick or not.

smitdog 08-13-2007 05:52 PM

RE: slick tricks vs. muzzy
 
I always haved liked muzzy but last year I had a bad experiace with em so this year I went to the G5 Montec they fly good with my setup just waiting to see what they do on a deer

loverboy9_1_1 08-13-2007 06:02 PM

RE: slick tricks vs. muzzy
 
Both are good choices, but I like the Slick Trick Magnum 100gr. alot better. It did a heck of a job last year on my black bear and two whitetails.

Mike from Texas 08-13-2007 08:32 PM

RE: slick tricks vs. muzzy
 
Slick Trick Magnums any day over a Muzzy. Muzzy used to be an awesome head but anymore, not so much. Weak blades and aluminum ferrule.

matt1214 08-14-2007 10:51 AM

RE: slick tricks vs. muzzy
 
i would go with the muzzy

vte 08-14-2007 11:04 AM

RE: slick tricks vs. muzzy
 
I would have to agree with someone that mentioned buy both and trying each. From the opinions gathered, it does sound like you would be happy with either though. If your bow it tuned well and you are shooting a heavier poundage bow, I think you could be happy with just about anything on the market.

My husband has been a Muzzy fan for a very long time now. I love the Muzzy Phantom, but because I shoot a lower poundage having that large of a surfaced broadhead it is not the tip for me. My husband who shots 65# has shot the Muzzy Phantom, G5 Montec, Muzzy 100 grain 3 blade, and Magnus Stingers. They all performed well out of his step-up. For my lighter poundage, the Magnus Stingers performed better.

Oldhootowl 08-14-2007 11:12 AM

RE: slick tricks vs. muzzy
 
Passthru, you are under the wrong impression, Trickferrule steel isstronger than Titanium ferrules.

Titanium is used for its strength to weight ratio. Since it is expensive it is used in exotic applications where steel would be heavier. If youwanted strength and hadyour choice of Titanium or a choice grade of steel regardless of weight you would pick steel everytime. Since it is used in aerospace because of the need for light weight people consider it to be the strongest. Same as advertising "aerospace aluminum" as being really strong, it is still aluminum and won't touch good steel. Anytime you hear somebody say an aluminum head is the strongest on the market you can rest assured that isn't true.

Ifevery design wouldlet you use steel and make a head 100 grains then nobody would be making aluminum heads. Its only used because steel is too heavy.

You get stronger steel with 4 Lutz Solingen blades with the best bladelocking system there isfor a lot less than the cost of a Titanium 3 blade head.

You do the math.

passthru79 08-14-2007 04:54 PM

RE: slick tricks vs. muzzy
 
Interesting, I guess it really doesnt make much difference to me since I shoot G5 Strikers.

r33h 08-15-2007 10:28 AM

RE: slick tricks vs. muzzy
 
I have heard great things about both. I use the slick tricks and I have experienced great arrow flight with them and I haven't tried the Muzzy's out yet. If you do get the slick tricks, go with the magnums (bigger cutting diameter). There is a guy on archerytalk.com who is an authorized slick trick distributor that is selling them for $23. I just ordered some and got them in the other day. Very, very fast shipping.

YooperMike 08-15-2007 10:39 AM

RE: slick tricks vs. muzzy
 
Slicks hands down. Oldhootowl, two posts up, is the owner of the company (sorry to rat you out!) and the things he is saying are all true. also, their customer service is top notch. I called to order some blades, and he answered the phone!

Oldhootowl 08-15-2007 12:40 PM

RE: slick tricks vs. muzzy
 
No problem, pretty well known who I am, I just don't like to appear to pull rank on anybody. I post like anybody else, and I expect my posts to be evaluated like anybody else. But I can assure you Iwork hard to always shoot straight with what I say so it is found to be true.

09mjl01 08-15-2007 03:01 PM

RE: slick tricks vs. muzzy
 
hey hootowl will you ever have your product in basspro or only cabelas

WesternMdHardwoods 08-15-2007 03:29 PM

RE: slick tricks vs. muzzy
 
Ok two years ago I switched from my muzzy 90 grain to slick trick 100 they did shoot nice, BUT my first experience in the woods with them drove me far far away from them.
I missed [:@]a small 8pt(misjudged) anyhow I shot the ALUMINUM arrow into a DEAD stump! When I retrieved my perfectly straight arrow out of the stump I then had to pick the wood apart with my fingers easily to find my SLICK TRICK in about 4-6 pieces????????[:@]:eek:
I have heard that back then they were not made as strong, but my thing is if they were not made that strong WHY SELL THEM sounds like it didnt take them long to learn about there problem?
I have shot my muzzys into live trees and was able to retrieve them with next to no damage.
Everyone talks about how good of a head they are but I will never spend the money to try and find out again!
Just my opinion, dont let this talk you out of what u want! But I knwo what I would do!

Oldhootowl 08-15-2007 03:44 PM

RE: slick tricks vs. muzzy
 
Will see, want them available to guys wherever they are. But want local dealers to get their share of business, they are the lifeblood of the sport and provide great service, and I encourage guys to patronizethem. Actually the guys at Cabelas have been shootingTricks for the last couple years, just didn't have enough manufacturing capability to insure dealers had their supply and waited until this year to let C carry them. But I understand there are guys who don't have a dealer and need to get them somewhere, and will consider customer needs in the future.

Oldhootowl 08-15-2007 03:58 PM

RE: slick tricks vs. muzzy
 
Western, I had some heads get out a couple years ago with improper heat treat, it has happened to pretty much everybody in the business at one time or another. But I worked to replace them. And it hasn't happened since, and can't now.

After that I revamped heat treat and design and material to make sure it wouldn't happen again.

I have worked constantly to make the best head, and have made many changes the last 7 years. This year running out of anything to tweak,so just for good measure I upgraded the ferrules even moreso they are worlds stronger than aluminum and stronger than Titanium so they are tops.

As far as spending money to find out, no need to do that, if you wish send me your address and will send you a replacement pack no charge. I work hard to please, and thats why I upgraded ferrules this year when last years were fine, just to make the best. If these ferrules don't please no ferrules will.



WesternMdHardwoods 08-15-2007 04:08 PM

RE: slick tricks vs. muzzy
 
WOW!! I was just expressing my opinion. I may just take you up on that offer! I now have something good to say about slick tricks definantely good customer service!

Oldhootowl 08-15-2007 04:47 PM

RE: slick tricks vs. muzzy
 
Well, I'm inbusiness to make guys happy, all I need is an address.

WesternMdHardwoods 08-15-2007 05:02 PM

RE: slick tricks vs. muzzy
 
Just sent you a PM Hootowl!

09mjl01 08-16-2007 01:46 PM

RE: slick tricks vs. muzzy
 
heywestern, let me know how they shoot in this topic or in our team page.

bigbulls 08-16-2007 04:20 PM

RE: slick tricks vs. muzzy
 
Western, and any one else...... That's whyI onlyuseGarry's Slick Tricks.

He stands behind his product 100%, Is always a pleasure to deal with and makes an outstanding product that is truely the best on the market.

There are very few items I push in the shop but any time someone asks what broadhead I reccomend I always, with out hesitation, recomend Slick Tricks above all others.

WesternMdHardwoods 08-16-2007 09:24 PM

RE: slick tricks vs. muzzy
 
Bigbull ill tell ya garry is sending me some slick trick's and I am very impressed, he actually admitted they had a problem and is all about making it right! That is customer service at its best! Lots of companies wouldnt even admit to there being a problem! I will be using the slick tricks this year and as long as I have no experience like my last ones I will definantely be a lifetime slick tricker'.....If only all companies were as appreciative as Garry's!;)


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