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Oh, I understand all that, but multiple post within the same thread and youhave never owned one, and many more threads where you bash them.Goodness, I have owned several PSE, browning, bears,Jennings, Bowtech and the PSE's was the brand I havehad the most issues with. And they put out like 50 new bows a year and they hold no value. But I am sure not going to go out of my way, to keep going on and on about it. What does one expect from a low end bow? You get what you get. Just don't understand the logic here.

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Well read the name of the topic. What do you expect from someone who agrees with the orignal poster. Just because a bow isnt a Bowtech, doesnt make it a low end bow. I guess thats how it is in your book though.

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Not at all, many quality high end bows. PSE used to be one of them a decade ago. Point I am making is you made your statement that you don't like them, and don't own them and wont. But mutiple places, just seems very strange. The whole thread doesn't make sense. You noticed the poster hasn't been back don't ya?

I try to make a point never to comment on something I have not owned, whether its guns, bows, or cars. Internet posts are just that.

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Id love to try a Bowtech, especially the Guardian since that seems to be the most popular bow out. I hear of it being extremely quiet and shock free. But its just one of those things that keep me from it is what everyone else has told me. I dont know, maybe im getting the wrong info or something.

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bigcountry, kdsberman bashing is no good whatever the brand. It does the sport no good. No one bow line is going to take over the complete market place. Shoot what shoots and feels best to you. We are all in this sport together, not to bash one another but to share info, stories, etc. No one Loves their Bowtechs more than I do. I would say I have owned over 60 hunting bows of dang near every brand you have heard of. Some I kept for a while, some never made a trip to the woods;)I have shot Bowtech since 03 and they have been great performers for me. kdsberman don't run down something you have never tried, and don't believe everything you hear. Shoot all the bows you can and buy the one that feels and shoots the best to YOU!:)I wouldn't run something down I'd never tried just because I heard something;)By the way, the Guardian really is one Sweet bow:D

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sorry guys, i didnt want it to get out of hand. Im sure some of the stuff i heard is true and some isnt. With all due respect, i just think that brands do get bashed on a lot but people only care when its about bowtech for some reason. I dont mean anything bad by it, its just what i think.

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Dude you got stroked! Said to hear that it went down this way but I'd have the Better Business Burueo (sp?) over there in a heart beat!

There are lemon laws to prtect us. I agree with the others you never should have taken the bow home but bow lust can make a man blind!

I also won't be looking bowtechs way. Thanks for the warning.

I ordered blueberries for my dads B-day and one plant never made it. I emalied the company stating my problem. I never expected to get any where with an email. Three days later a replacement arrived! I paid the shipping. Fair enough.

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There are always 3 sides to every story your,theirs and the truth! Do you believe evrything you hear?

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I haven't had any problems with my Ally.

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Look at how many people bash mathews,and I'll bet 43% of em never even has shot a mathews tuned exactly for them!
Bottom line is don't feel lonely all of us get something to gripe about once in a while. By the way-I have never had a complaint with mathews bows,even tho I use other rests,quivers,sights,etc.

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Unless I've actually witnessed an issue with a particular brand I see no reason in bashing that brand. Every bow manufacturer has had some issues. But the stories sure do seem to outway the issues by a wide margin. When I picked out my bow i went strictly on what felt best to me. If that bow would ahve had issues after purchase that's what the warranty is for and I've learned the lesson for myself.

"this one time mycousin's brother's uncle heard from his brother's son'sbrother that brand X bow will fly apart when you look at it with one eye closed."

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Ididn't get an e-mail or PM from the original poster but I did do some digging and got a little info on the situation.I posted this same reply on a different forum so I guess I should also post it here...


International dealers go through a distributor and items aren't always received in a timely manner when going from dealer to distributor to BowTech. There are often times delays in customs, among other things to consider. The bows that were sent in from the Canadian Distributor were shipped back out 3 days after they were received at the factory.

Regards, Pat

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Pat,

Thank you for keeping us posted. You could have just let this die. however, you prove again that Bowtech does have great customer service by making the effort to find out the truth.

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Ok,
Lets be fair an objective about this topic and then close the chapter to move on with other evaluations, hopefully more positive..
What I don’t understand, is that some fellow archers on this forum get fired up with disbelief??? and start defending Bowtech ?? Unless you are on the Bowtech payroll , I don’t understand this reaction. All will agree that something about archers is that they are always passionate and willing to lend a friendly hand. So why would one decide to expose a false bad review….? I work in the food industry (I’m not a competitor) It was my 2nd Bowtech and oh man …I loved those bows ( my next one would have been the Guardian)..But that’s the way it happened wetter you like it or not… and nobody can contest that! Strictly facts, the way it happened.

FACTS AND FAULT:…


Not proceeding with final inspection before putting the bow in the box. It was a bran new bow. (At lunch time I went to the dealer and took the bow out of the box. Went back after work to get equipment installed) BOWTECH[/ol]


Dealer should have never let me out with that bow. DEALER[/ol]


Taking the bow out of the store (Dumb mistake, I agree) :YES ! ME , my fault, caught up with too much lust for the bow… [/ol]


Numerous calls to Bowtech telephone support line (john and others)asking for estimated time of delivery but no valid tracking answer: Nobody would take the time to investigate this bad service…They would answer : ask your dealer…but even he was getting no clear answers…BOWTECH[/ol]



Unacceptable waiting time: NORTH SILVA (BOWTECHS ASSIGNED/CHOSEN DISTRIBUTOR) and BOWTECH for doing nothing about it. They could sing any song they like on this forum but the truth is that they signed a business agreement with North Silva and they’ve agreed to the conditions and are fully aware that their chosen distribution center does not react quickly by accumulating pallets before shipping. (As per a Bowtech telephone support Jeff [/ol]


After 2 months, Finally getting an answer, being told by Bowtech, that they received the bow, saw and recognized the problem and will change everything besides riser … Asking Bowtech to please ship back A.S.A.P once fixed. (after all the bow is new and paid for …after 60 days…lets move and make sure our consumers get an enjoyable experience with us…ya right)I was told that if I wanted to speed things up with shipping, I would have to pay the shipping!!??… Because their designed distributor was waiting to accumulate before shipping and did not priority on warranty. BOWTECH Said they would call back for a tracking # but never did…(and Jeff was very well explained about the service experience I was getting) BOWTECH[/ol]


After not being able to get answers or common sense service from Bowtech, I‘ve then sent a letter to senior management and never got a response from my ¨consumer complaint¨ detailed letter sent ¨express 1 day delivery¨ to senior management Bob Dunn [/ol]
(Nobody in that company stood up to stop this bad experience and make sure follow up was done right!!) BOWTECH



Receiving it with only the cams changed and they were very close to the limbs causing a paper to get stuck in between. I then compared it with another 07 allegiance and noticed the huge difference,(sloppy job) and on top of that, I had 2 Sims limb savers on my bow witch they took off and didn’t send back…. BOWTECH[/ol]


Being charged for the repair because the experts at Bowtech said the bow was dry fired???!!! (That one hurt!! I’d like to know the name of that expert…probably the guy who initially build and put my bow in the box …) Then from the dealer’s store, I call BOWTECH WARRANTY for explanations on this expertise and the badly fixed bow. And they tell me (after being put on hold) to call that North Silva and they would explain why.…..and as per the girl who answered, Bowtech warranty department would not take my call ??(North Silva is their distribution center for Canada ..?? what a raw and senseless answer) BOWTECH[/ol]


After 80 days, without a paid for new bow, get it back poorly fixed. BOWTECH [/ol]

And yes I have compared it with lead time from others whom I’ve ordered such as Sure Lock, Trophy Taker, STS, Specialty archery, Cobra, etc and there delivery time was average 6 working days. BOWTECH

I’m aware that it’s 2 way shipping but 80 days is a long shot , for a 1000 cnd $ paid for new bow, getting it back poorly fixed and realizing that I have to start over the process…Just unacceptable, don’t you think ?
This should be urgent priority for a company that stands behind their product. BOWTECH

Bowtech was contacted several times concerning the defect problems and delays, but then I saw Pat’s post requesting to Email Bowtech once problem was been to other consumers… So I could risk the rest of the season with no bow…YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING. …..
Nice try on your post Bowtech… but the truth is, that you didn’t need my email; you had more than enough info on this post to know EXACTLY who I was. If you they truly wanted to do something, it would have been done immediately… But you must of thought that your reply looked good to others ….

Bashing Bowtech….You could see it that way from the tone of the post, but it’s not. Us consumers need to know both sides of the medal and after all the title of topic forum is evaluation/review. I wasn’t asking for the impossible just common sense service and what they advertise on their web site ¨one of the finest ever produced¨…All you Bowtech owners should read the birth certificate statement that was on your bow, and then see if I got just that….

It’s a good thing the company was able to see the post and hopefully react and correct the places where they’ve dropped the ball. Looks like all you Bowtech owners can expect great service…I think this post woke them up a little… This post was well deserved. At least more than one person saw it. Too bad they didn’t follow up on their responsibilities when it was time…

As I mentioned previously, technical phone support has always serviced me well, warranty is another story
Of course they cant do everything wrong, that’s not what I’m saying. A lot of people are charmed and that’s great. I was just terribly disappointed with delays, service and accountability for mistakes that I’ve got from Bowtech. It is a very wide spread thought for people living outside the U.S (Especially Québec and Toronto). Maybe they don’t prioritize that regional market?? At least that’s what we all think down here.

So yes, true facts show that I was unfortunate with the services obtained from getting what I paid for.
This was an evaluation of my service with Bowtech’s warranty service and their accountability for their products. That’s all it was.
This post is a factual, and an honest review of services obtained.

Even if I lost a lot of shooting time and money, I think they got the message…
Enough said…let this post die

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You seem to still miss the point that the issue should have never got to Bowtech from the customer stand point. Thedealer knew the bow had an issue when you left with it and when you returned they pawned it off on Bowtech.

No reputable dealership would have let you walk out the door with that bow even if you offered them double that price. However, you problaby still bought your other bow from the same people who sold you a bow with a problem.

I'm sorry that Bowtech didn't handle it a certain way. But the majority of the blame lies with that dealer and how they handled it. Enough said by me.

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Dont asumme...I bought it somewhere else..

And as for the majority of the blame...I fully agree on a part of it but the company didnt stand behind..... read post 54 again..
But with all do respect Dave, your in title to your opinion..

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Though I do work for BowTech I'm based out of Ohio so until I read your threads on various forums I knew nothing about this and you raised a few questions that I felt needed to be answered.

Yes, BowTech may be to blame for some of what has taken place here but I don't believe they're where the real problem lies. The reason I say this is because of what I said at the end of my last post. The 3 bows that were sent back by said distributor were shipped backout 3 days after being received at the factory. I believe that's a pretty quick turn around time and that's within the goal set within our Warranty Description.

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I've had severe issue's with a Distributor of BowTech and I have to say ,when I contacted BowTech about it ,it was dealt with immediately . I'm sure other companies have some of the same issue's you speak of as well .
I love my BowTech and have had nothing but praise for this company .Unfortunately you don't feel the same , who know's ,just maybe this bow"HAD" been dry fired at the shop before you took it home ,[who know's other than the shop owner]. If you noticed a problem to begin with ,Why would you buy it ?

nubo