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Old 05-20-2007 | 04:04 AM
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when I read the posts about how everybody is concerned about being able to make a swift kill and the respect everybody has towards the animals they hunt, then I have to say that my point of view about the north american hunter has changed entirely.
It might be that former europeanhunting experiences had clouded my vision and made me go from guns to bows and that one rotten apple sometimes spoils the basket....
but the people here on the forum, that helped me understand bows and their parts have made me realize that hunting isn't about killing, it's about being one with your surroundings and taking part of something that's as old as humanity itself....

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Old 05-20-2007 | 07:14 AM
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if you got a 28" instead of a 27" and are getting your arm slapped, then good job selling the bow. don't let anyone do that to you again unless you're paying them to be your coach. if you're comfortable w/ a 27", get that. i don't think that particular bow was the issue, i think the arrows and drawlength were.
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Old 05-20-2007 | 08:09 AM
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I think you have a reasonable expection thatan archery shopbe knowledgable about archery products.
Very true, however I think there is also a reasonable expectation that anyone that would attempt to kill a deer with a bow would be very familiar with the equipment they use. Reasonable amounts of practice will expose faulty equipment. If a person practices a moderate amount they will know if they have inconsistant results. IMHO, a responsible hunter will look into why his or her results are inconsistant.
The pro shop should have got it right when they cut your arrows. You should have known, through an adaquate amount of practice that they were not cut right. I think you are both to blame. however I think YOU as a hunter have the ultimate responsibility to be sure of your equipment.
I will agree completely with this.
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Old 05-20-2007 | 12:51 PM
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journey man i agree with what you said. it is my resposibility, and i made mistakes i dont doubt it. But see i heard many negative things about pse is it just they are not good quality bows or just people preferance?
Maybe i should of gave it more time before i sold it, But i was so frustrated over my inability to hunt and get the kill. also i think it may of been my lack of happiness, cause at the range i did well. in the hunt i sucked. but i have never had this much trouble with missing. i think i thought too much and not allowed the arrow to fly on its own. i was thinking of missing before shooting, well thank you i better go. Journeyman i except your advice thank you. william daughenbaugh

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Old 05-20-2007 | 01:31 PM
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I would have to agree with the others and place the ultimate responsibility on you. However, I think the whole thing started when you got sold a 28" bow rather than your usual 27". Right away the bow didn't fir you properly and that will lead to inaccuracies, especially with the draw length being too long.

Between that and the arrows being cut improperly I'd be inclined to look for another shop. If that can't be done then you owe it to yourself to get as educated as possible so you can walk in and say "This is what I want".

Trying to answer your original question about the bow, I'm not crazy about short axle to axle bows in general. I've got five bows ranging from 32" to 38". Pretty much identical setups as far as the draw length, weight, what arrows they shoot, cam system, etc. Practicing about 200-300 shots a week I can tell very easily that the short A2A bow is no where as easy to shoot and achieve the same degree of accuracy as the longer ones. The short bow is just not as stable a shooting platform--period. And I shoot just about a 27" draw.

My favorite is around 36". Think about it. That's only 2" longer at each end than 32" so really, portability is not a factor. And all things being equal, given the same cams the longer bow draws a lot smoother.

And after working in a shop and selling a lot of bows I've got my own opinion about many things. The Firestorm Lite, IMO, is a low quality bow with a mid-bow price. Other than the riser it has many of the same components (limbs, wheels, strings)as the Nova. What sells the bow is mainly the A2A and the PSE name. You want a good PSE then you buy upper end.

If you are stuck on the short bow craze then one you might find quite pleasing is the Martin Bengal at 33" or the Pantera (my favorite) at 35". Just don't make the same mistake and just buy a bow. Shoot a lot of different makes and models and narrow down your choices. Once you do this then make a list of the things you are looking for in a bow and use it to pick a certain bow. Once you are ready to buy then shoot the particular bow you intend to buy.
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Old 05-20-2007 | 02:44 PM
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I started out with a PSE Nova. It was a good bow. I was fortunate enough to take two deer with it.

From the few posts that I have read dealing with unhappy PSE owners, I often find them trying to compare an older generation PSEbow to todays standards. Which if you think about it, makes no sense. The old saying is often true...you get what you pay for.

Should you have given that bow a second chance?...certainly. But everybody is different and have different breaking points. As long as you can sufficiently move on.....only you will know if the problem was you or the bow.
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Old 05-20-2007 | 05:01 PM
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thank you very much for your kind advise gentlemen, i must say my favorite bow i ever boughtwas in 99 the blood brother, and i also liked the martin phantom with the fusion cam. never missed with those 2 bows.
But i have this idiocricy about myself i guess i have to try to stay up with the joneses when it comes to bows, i want one every year. I remember my great grandfather resided in medford wisconsin and shot many deer with the 6 wheel bear bows.
I look back and say if they worked why do i have to be so picky. what is the advice about the hoyt bows? i hear alot of good things about them, and is the buckmaster a good bow? i think the 2004 series,
and is buckmaster i know the say jennings but i also was told it is a mix also of browning company? is this true. thank you bye
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Old 05-20-2007 | 09:22 PM
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Bear and Jennings are completely separate from Browning. In fact, Browning bows are made by PSE. Have been for several years now.

Jennings is owned and made by Bear. Have been for many years. Prior to that Jennings was a top bow. Now they are made almost identical to the Bear models. Slight differences in the riser machining and design. but same limbs and such. Good Bows? Nah, kinda middle of the road.
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Old 05-21-2007 | 12:12 AM
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thank you for clarifying. so should i go back to Martin since i liked it but it was with the single fusion cam. i believe this was back in 2000, do they still make the model, or do they have a newer and better model? thank you. william daughenbaugh, pecatonica illinois
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Old 05-21-2007 | 05:45 AM
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The Fision cam has been replaced by the DynaCam. That's their new single cam. Pesonally I like the Nitrous dual cam set up. Draws smoother, no cam lean possibility and a lot faster.

Depending on your personal preferences I'd take a look at the Bengal or Pantera, which uses their new MPro cam. Although I haven't shot it yet it's supposed to be a nice smooth drawing cam. I wanted the extra speed so I got my Pantera with the NitrousX cams. Elimination of the cable guard is a real plus as far as I'm concerned.

And neither will rape your wallet too bad.
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