Who has a 80# Vulcan
 

I read in a post on here where someone stated they had ordered a Vulcan with 80# limbs. I was curious as to whether they had gotten the bow in and how it shot. I was thinking of purchasing a set of 80# limbs incase I wanted to generate more kinetic energy or just to have them....lol

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I have an 80 pounder, @ 29.5" it shoots a 424 gr. axis obsession @ 321 fps. with winnerschoice string and cables, it shot 326 fps w/ the fuse system.

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What the hell are you going for elephants with that set up an arrow that big and fast:D

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I'm going for whatever gets in front of me, The owner of our local archery shop was getting nervous when I started shooting the techno hunt screne, It hits with 97 pounds kinetic energy. sounded like thunder when it hit the screne. you got to love it!!!

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Better question would be "Who needs one". Sounds like a typical problem with testosterone level.

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Better question would be "Who needs one". Sounds like a typical problem with testosterone level.


I personally shoot a bow set at 79 lbs and have shot a bow around 80 lbs for about 10 years I don't need it and its not a macho thing I shoot better at that weight and am more comfortable with it than a lighter draw.

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Lighter draw. More holding weight. You'll get a smoother draw out of it and someday your shoulders will thank you.

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Hey BG, It ain't no problem if you can draw it easily, And shoot it well.Appreciate your concern about my testosterone level. I can guarantee you, Its just fine!

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I used to shoot with a guy that shot a Trykon at 84 pounds. He drew ridiculous, shot worse, and talked even worse. For him, it was all a macho thing. If you can do it, more power to you, and your arrow.

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So hows your valcan for ease of being accurate,great looking bow ,thought aboutit myself .
I'm looking at 70lbs.

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its really too bad shoulders wear out so easy.

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I shoot a 7"-8"group of 6 arrows @ 50yds, A little tighter with my trykon but it also has a inch longer brace height. I alsoshoot all year and a couple times a week. Sometimes I shoota little better sometimes a little worse.All in all the vulcan is very accurate for a speed bow!

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thats what I was hoping to hear,where I'm located no chance to try them out as there is no bows ordered unless you want them.[:@]
Think i'm going to order one ( all black) wicked looking rip cord:)
thanks for the info.

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No problem dyna, I have a some friends that bought 70# vectrix's and wish they had ordered the 80# after they shot mine,I have a 80 pounder, but I could shoot 70# if I wanted to. But I am a kinetic junkie. As for the people worried about my shoulders and testosterone, I am blessed with genetics, so they can keep shooting their 50#-60# rainBOWS and keep suffering from draw envy!

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OMG did you really just say that WOW draw envy????? the point the other people where talking about proved for them. HAHA draw envy I can take my girlfriends 15 year old brother and he can shoot a 80# draw all day so he must have great genetics too.

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Yes sir hallj86, Its either genetics or not being a wussy, either way it is kinetic energy and flatter traj. They both work for me! I am the same way with my trucks, I could drive the weaky squeaky factory truck or I can drive with a powerchipped, intake/exhast modified,beast. All in all they will both get me there,But I prefer the Beast.

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LOL

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Randini, Couple more questions about the 80# limbs....

1. How does yours do as far as hand shock and quietness compared to the 70# Vulcan?

2. What is the spine of your arrows? I shoot Axis FMJ 340's at 70# and they are spined on the stiff side. If they are underspined for 80#, then could I go with a 85 grain head to help or what would I need to back the poundage down to inorder for me to stay with the 100 grain heads like I have set up now?

I guess if I had to buy new arrows, I could....but I just bought a dozen of the FMJ for about $130...lol

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I completely agree with you.....I'm not trying to shoot 2" groups at 50 yards!!! If I was, I would have bought a slow target bow with about a 8" BH. I'm trying to get the most kinetic energy I can while maintaining kill-zone groups out to 40 yards. Where I hunt, I never have more than a 40 yard shot and rarely over 30 yards.

Maybe this is the same reason that I just bought a Commercial ZTR mower to mow my small neighborhood yard.....Sure, I can do my yardwork in an hour with a push mower, but my ZTR gets the job done in less than 10 minutes!!!! MORE TIME FOR SHOOTING MY BOW!!!! LOL

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:D

That's what I was thinking.

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Doublelung My hand shock isn't even noticable, as for noise, I picked up a little more with the winnerschoice string and cables, my friend has a 70# and it is very quiet.(They always seem quieter when somebody else is shooting), I have 4 friends that shoot 70# vectrix's and they are even quieter than the vulcan. I shoot 27 5/8" axis obsession's w/ 100gr tips with a total weight of 424 grs. Thats 5.3 grs per pound. A 70# bow with the same arrow would be 6.0 grs per pound. According to Easton's arrow chart I am right between 340s & 300s, I don't know how they would fly over 28"s. The lighter tips would help, I think the fmj 340s are 11.1 gpi so you should still be at a reasonable weight.If you are looking for silence, I would go with a heavy 300, but I would think your arrow @ 80#s will be sufficient.You should gain around 2.3 fps per pound of draw weight giving you a noticable increase in velocity and very little more noise due to the increase in stored energy of the bow with the same arrow weight. Hope this helps you. Randini

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Thanks Randini, One more question.
I just changed my 70# Vulcan to 65% let off...and I love it!!! I'm holding more weight, less of a valley, seems to draw smoother, and releases crisper. I tightened my groups down to 3" at 40 yards with this set up. What are you shooting on your 80# Vulcan, 75% or 65% let off?

I really like the 65% let off smoothness, I just hate to buy 80# limbs to find out that at 65% let off, that extra 3.5# of holding weight over my set up ends up being a breaking point and troublesome to shoot. I'm not a weak guy, but just wondering what you are shooting and what you think?

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Also, with 65% let off at full draw, I can actually knock off about another 1/2" on my arrow length which would strengthen the spine of the arrow, and drop my weight to about 445 grains. Another thing I dont mind doing is shooting at 76 to 78 lbs. if that helps make my arrows spine correctly. I'm just not looking to drop $400 in new limbs and a dozen new arrows....that's about half of the cost of another Vulcan!!!!

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On my vulcan I took out the draw stop and threw it away, I don't remember what the letoff came out too, Our proshop has an easton bow scale but I don't remember what it came out to on the digital readout.
I will check and get back to you. A friend of mine has a 70# vectrix and they tightened his cables and backed off his string, now he has a 75# bow, there are little tricks to tweaking them up. Winnerschoice can give you some good tips if you give them a call and talk to a tech.I hunt not to far from their factory and stopped in there last archery season just to check em out and see what they suggested and what was doable.They are really on top of things.

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Its all good BGfisher...someone has to keep paying the shoulder reconstructive surgeon. Better them and not us.

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Hey Randini......Do you remember me putting "Calling all wimps!!!" in the title of this post????
Seems that if you cant shoot an 80 # bow or if you dont WANT to shoot an 80# bow or if you think you dont need to shoot 80# limbs.....Why in the hell would you even look at this thread, let alone post to it????

Besides.....if 60# or 70# is all you ever need.....then why are bow companies even making 80# limbs or like the Elite bows offering up to 90# limbs.

I guess these companies enjoy the expense of manufacturing limbs that have no use in the field of archery or bow hunting!!!!

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You are right again Doublelung, some people aren't happy unless they have something to complain about. All I know is if I had a stubby little 27" draw length like Campo, I would definetly be shooting 80#'s so I could Use an arrow heavy enough to hunt with.

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Hey Randini, Here's an even better question....how many deer have been killed with a 50 lb bow. I'm sure it's a lot, cause in all reality, that's all you need to kill a deer. So here's the real question to these guys whining about us 80# shooters, saying it's a "problem with testosterone levels", why are they shooting 70#??? All they need is 50#!!! Could it be that they shoot 70# to prove they are a man, or because they CAN??? Either way, if they COULD shoot an 80# bow, they would.....cause if they reallyAREN'T interested in overkill, they would be shooting 50# on there set ups.......Just a little "food for thought".

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I got a cock strong LITTLE friend of mine that shoots 28" slow SB....Don't know the ends and outs of Mathews, but somehow, he special ordered 80# limbs for it. He shoots a 450 grain arrow about 285-290 fps. I shoot the same arrow almost 300 fps at 70#... I asked him why does he shoot 80# limbs. His answer: Cause I can and its the only way I can shoot a heavy enough arrow to blow through a front shoulder....not to mention, it's the only way I can keep up with you!!!!
Hated to inform him that I was about to leave him in the dust!!!

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seriously, you guys should improve your shooting before talking smack. i mean, the groups you're talking about at the distances you're talking about - are really pretty bad, really bad in all honesty. the first pre-requisite for smack talking is actually being able to shoot - and y'all are quite a ways off from that. you just look dumb after posting your group sizes. i hate to have to say this - but you obviously didn't know.

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I never posted my group sizes....I only said that I wasnt trying to shoot 2" groups at 50 yards and that I just wanted to maintain "killzone" groups out to 40 yards. The way I am set up right now, I am stacking the shafts on top of each other at 30 yards and shooting 3" groups at 40 yards, and 4-5" groups at 50 yards (mainly because I dont ever shoot 50 yards). Last time I checked, this is sufficient to stay in the killzone!!!

When I picked up a bow for the first time in my life, 8 months ago, I was shooting 8" groups at 20 yards. After a lot of practice, I can't shoot groups at 20 or 30 yards anymore due to the expense of arrows. This was my first year to bow hunt and I killed 3 deer with my bow. First one at 12 yards, 2nd at 42 yards, and the 3rd deer I killed was in a food plot at 62 yards. All 3 were doublelung, pass through shots that hit EXACTLY where I wanted them to hit. I believe that I have the right to "smack talk".

Besides, I'm sure I will get better with time, but to be honest with you, I dont NEED to improve my shooting. Killing deer out to 60 yards is good enough for me!!!

Randini, I think he is downing your 50 yard groups here....dont worry about him, the average whitetail is taken at 20 yards or less....

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no, i'm downing you guys talking smack to folks who don't shoot 80# bows. shooting well is reason to talk smack, if you like to talk smack- not pulling weight. i hope behind the smack you can see that there are folks trying to let you know that as strong as you may be - shoulders don't hold upforever. put the bravado and pride where it goes - in taking care of your family and friends - not in pullingweight.

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Hey gibblet, nothing last forever! thats why they call us mortals.We are talking 80#s, If that offends people why would they respond or even check out the thread? I go into threads that interest me, not to whine and complain about thingsthat others do. It might be alot different story if those guys personally knew me or came over to my house to have a couple beers and to sling some sticks. but to talk blindley is total ignorance, I can deal with stupidity no problem, but ignorance, I have a problem with. I try not to make a habit out of judging or tell other people what to do. What I do works well for me. As for thestatement about friend and family, I will not comment on that IGNORANT comment. Thanks for your concerns!!!

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Hey gib,What do you mean bad? 7"-8" @ 50yds. That is 3" @ 20 yds for 6 arrows and you say thats "Really Bad" You must be in magazines and on the olympic team then, maybe my target shooting isn't perfect, but I have a nice collection of elk, blacktial, and mule deer that I have killed with a bow, and a freezer full of meat every year, What I lack in target shooting I more than make up in hunting performance.

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I guess I have to chime in. I shoot a 80# vulcan because i can and i like to. I like fast heavy arrows, I like big bloody trails to follow, I like blowing through bone, and I can shoot accurate. HEY GIBLET: when i opened my bow case this year it still smelled like bloody arrows. Did yours smell like styrophome.(ha ha) Some target shooters couldnt hit a LIVE animal if it was sitting on their lap. I agree you need to be accurate to even think about shooting at a deer. 2" group at 50 yards sounds plenty good to me. Unless your hunting sparrows.

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BigSarge, That's what I call great shooting!!! Randini, our groups may not be that good, but i'm still impressed with yours especially since you shoot 6 shot groups. My numbers are based on 3 shot groups. Everyone knows how tiresome and erratic 6 shot groups can get.

Bottom line for these guys talking about needing tight groups to be able to kill deer.....its just not necessary IMO. Think about it, when is the last time you had to shoot a deer in the heart or lungs with a 3 shot group in order to kill him?

The way I measure my "comfort zone" for shooting at a deer is I will only shoot at a distance that I can hit exactly where I am aiming for one shot....then I take a couple minute break and shoot again....another 2 minute break and shoot again. If I can do this and hit where I was aiming 3 times in a row, then that is a distance that i am comfortable shooting a deer at. I can do this out to 50 yards with ease. As a matter of fact, my first shot always hit where I want it to at 50 yards. Last time I checked, the first shot is what you need to kill a deer, correct?

As far as shoulders wearing out, I would think that if it is just as hard for someone to pull back 70# as it is for me to pull back 80#, then their shoulder will "wear out" just as fast as mine. There is no way for someone else to judge our strength levels. I work out 5 days a week and I do one particular exercise to simulate drawing back a bow. This is one arm, seated rows. I sit up and keep my back still and draw with my arm and upper back muscles to strengthen these muscles used in drawing a bow. I work out with 120 lbs doing 3 sets of 8 reps. This is from the seated position with NO LET OFF. So if anything wears out my shoulders, it wont be my bow set at 80#.

That's the amazing thing about the human body, when you eat right, workout, and stay in shape, it actually prevents injuries!!!

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genius.

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Gibblet, you hit the nail on the head.....do we know each other??? How did you know that I am a genius?... LOL

I do have an IQ of 168....not quite a genius IMO, but good guess anyway.

Just leave my thread alone and let us "Brutes" have a little fun!!!!

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The part everyone is making fun of is every so often you guys talk like shooting 80# limbs makes you more of me. That is the joke.