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NavyDeerHunter 10-31-2006 06:35 AM

I Take It Back...(my recommendation for equalizer treestands)
 
Late in the season last year I found out abut "Equalizer" tree stands. After watching the video I decided to buy one and gave them a call. No answer so I left a message and they promptly called back. Stand shipped very quickly andwhen Ifirst received it I was very pleased with the way it set up and worked.
Fast forward to this season. As much as I liked the function of the stand, I was not a big fan of the bench style seat...especially for long sits. I heard that equalizer was offering a new sling style seat and called to inquire about that. Again, no answer, but I left a message that I was interested in the seat and they promptly returned my call. They told me that the seat was on back order and would be available in Oct-Nov. Fair enough, so I ordered one.
Fast forward to last week. Dressed and ready to go, I went to sling my equalizer over my shoulders and the strap that holds the backpacking straps to the stand broke. Had to "rig" it up to be able to haul it into the woods. Two days later I noticed that one of the other straps is frayed and being cut through by the sharp edge of the stand where the strap is attached...the only place it can be attached...by manufacturer directions. I called equalizer to complain. Again, no answer, but instead of leaving a message that I was interested in buying an item, I left a message that I was having problems. Guess what...No call back. Also posted a note on their web site...still no call back.
Fast forward to yesterday. My new sling seat comes in. At first glance I don't like it, but am willing to give it an honest try. Put it on my stand and took it to the woods last night and HATED IT. It's rough, stiff material and probably the loudest piece of gear that I have. After 5 minutes of trying to adjust it I finally took it off and ended up standing for the entire afternoon. This thing is like rubbing sand paper on cardboard.
I have now left another message and web post explaining that I want my money back. We'll see how long it takes them to answer...if they do.
Now, besides the awful new seat, one broken strap and one badly worn strap the thing is also becoming more and more noisy when shifting weight on the platform. Every time I shift my weight the stand makes a creeking or poping noise that I have no doubt would spook a deer if in range.
Right now I can say that the only thing I do like about the stand is the adjustability of it and the quiet cable systems...as compared to my API with the chains.
Sorry for the long post, but I had to put this out there since I have recommended equalizer in several previous posts.
I'll let you know how their customer service turns out and if they are willing to do anything about these problems.

SIDEWAYS 10-31-2006 06:21 PM

RE: I Take It Back...(my recommendation for equalizer treestands)
 
Nav, I had problems with them returning calls as well.
I ended up leaving a message asking why they did not return calls, then they called me back.
I am in a business where customer service is the #1 priority, in my opinion they certainly do not know what that is.

Keep us posted on their response.

They might be interested to know that you are the reason for giving them at least 2 other customers

Rob/PA Bowyer 10-31-2006 07:23 PM

RE: I Take It Back...(my recommendation for equalizer treestands)
 
Email them this link, bad publicity like this is never good for a company especially with the 100's of thousand members here. This site could make or break a company as far as I'm concerned. There is no excuse for poor customer service but of course, companies come up with them.

Granby 11-02-2006 04:44 PM

RE: I Take It Back...(my recommendation for equalizer treestands)
 
Wow, thanks for letting us know, after seeing your initial post I was looking into getting one, I was debating between the Equalizer and the Summit Viper SS. I think I'll go with the SS. Yeah, send 'em the link to HNII say!

nodog 11-03-2006 06:07 AM

RE: I Take It Back...(my recommendation for equalizer treestands)
 
There is no perfect stand. They all take work and time to iron them out as best as possible. Worth the effort if there's something to work with. POOR CUSTOMER SERVICE COMES IN ONLY2 VARIETIES, GOOD AND BAD.

Sorry to hear about your troubles. They'll get an earfull from me if I ever run into them and I will for sure not talk well of them when I see someone about to buy one. I have done just that with other products that have not lived up to their hype in places like cabela's. People have put the item's down and thanked me.

Could have told you about the seat. A bench is always better as far as noise goes. My new stand as well as the old ones have a sling seat and for comfort they are great, using it is a pain. I'm cutting the back off and just using the seat next time out with it. Didn't use the back much in the last couple days except for when it poured. Put the umbrella up and settled in for a nice nap. Finished the last couple days with theupper section of the standalmost resting on the base and standing most of the time. Not very comfortable, but got'r done.

It's all a learning curve isn't it.:D

Snood Slapper 11-03-2006 07:03 AM

RE: I Take It Back...(my recommendation for equalizer treestands)
 
I bought one of the stands a year and a half ago and used it last year and this year a little bit. I love the stand itself and had absolutely no problems with it. The only sharp edges I have on mine is the teeth that bite the tree. All the welds and everything are excellent. It does not sound as though they have the same quality control they did when I purchased mine. I know they were made in China when I got mine; it makes me wonder if they have changed manufactures since then since they are so far backordered and you report such poor quality. You are absolutely correct though, they don't have the customer service they should. I had to call them several times just to get mine ordered. If I remember correctly, I think I left a message finally and they did call me back. It seems like just a couple guys running the thing like a very small family business possbily (not an excuse though). I hope you get it all sorted out.

hawgdawg 11-03-2006 08:56 PM

RE: I Take It Back...(my recommendation for equalizer treestands)
 
I don't own one of these stands but have looked at the video. Of course the video and all videos about a product makes that product look good. I emailed them twice at different times asking questions about their stands and have always got reply back the next day. Of course they are trying to sell stands instead of taking care of customers problems. I seriously thought about one of these stands but guess I'll keep using my heavy ol man.

Hunterbrum 11-05-2006 04:36 PM

RE: I Take It Back...(my recommendation for equalizer treestands)
 
My brother had the same problem with the straps. He calledthem and they had the fix out to him in a couple of of days.

DetLieut 11-05-2006 04:56 PM

RE: I Take It Back...(my recommendation for equalizer treestands)
 
I have owned one for two seasons now. So far so good. I have had a couple of minor complaints and after e mailing the web site I got a reply to my questions. It took several days but I got my answers.
I did put on different back straps, I didn't like the ones that came with it. That has been my only real complaint. I still like my Summit Goliath better but that is a personal choice. If they are at Harrisburg again next year I may try to pick up another one.

But poor customer service will destroy any company if the word gets out.

DetLieut

NavyDeerHunter 11-09-2006 05:52 PM

RE: I Take It Back...(my recommendation for equalizer treestands)
 
I finally got in touch with equalizer. Explained my problems to them and my disappointment at them not having returned my calls or e-mails. Their reply to that was that "it's the busy time of the year". I didn't dwell on that issue much, but we did talk about the problems with the stand. They agreed to send me a replacement foot platform and straps. Two days later, FEDEX delivered the box with all of the promised materials. We'll see what happens from here on out.

cjsportsman 11-13-2006 06:08 AM

RE: I Take It Back...(my recommendation for equalizer treestands)
 
Oh man, this is something I didn't want to hear, I just ordered one of those stands Friday. It ships this week...

SIDEWAYS 11-13-2006 07:07 AM

RE: I Take It Back...(my recommendation for equalizer treestands)
 
CI, overall the stand is well built and very easy to use.
The customer service is what is lacking with the company.

cjsportsman 11-14-2006 05:56 AM

RE: I Take It Back...(my recommendation for equalizer treestands)
 
I can't wait to get myhands on this stand, how long did it take to ship the stand to your house?

SIDEWAYS 11-14-2006 08:04 PM

RE: I Take It Back...(my recommendation for equalizer treestands)
 
It was only a couple of days, but I bought it at the end of last season.
I have heard they are backed up, so it might take longer.
Good luck and enjoy!

NavyDeerHunter 11-16-2006 08:34 AM

RE: I Take It Back...(my recommendation for equalizer treestands)
 
My replacement stuff came 2 days after we talked on the phone. I would not be surprised if you don't have yours today...if not already. The company does good...if you can get in touch with them which seems to be hit or miss.

PABuck_HNTR 11-18-2006 06:39 PM

RE: I Take It Back...(my recommendation for equalizer treestands)
 
Customer service seems to be lacking at many companies. I bought a Summit Razor SS in late Sept 2006( some of you may know the story) and with it was supposed to be a Summit Skin to quiet the stand and Camo it out. One of the reasons I bought the Summit. Well long story short Summit said the skin was defective but in the meantime they were still advertising their stands with the product on the second call to Summit I was told the materials wer defective and they would be shipping me the upgraded ones sometime in November. I doubt I will ever see them. I won't buy from Summit again. I don't care how good the stands are I want good honest customer service.

nubo 11-19-2006 07:45 PM

RE: I Take It Back...(my recommendation for equalizer treestands)
 
Well isn't that funny ,when you want to purchase something ,they return your camll right of way ,but when your having problem's they don't .
That's good to hear ,I'm sure you'll get a response once you send them this link LOL

If you don't honour your product good or bad ,you'll have a hrd time competing in the market .

nubo

Bigg~BirddVA 11-20-2006 06:23 PM

RE: I Take It Back...(my recommendation for equalizer treestands)
 
I have one too. Bought a Summit seat at the show I bought the EQ stand at. Never even tried the bench seat. I've had zero problems with the Summit seat on mine. I still use my old Non-Typical (the original one by Wayne) which is a very good stand.

cjsportsman 11-21-2006 10:56 AM

RE: I Take It Back...(my recommendation for equalizer treestands)
 
I called last Tuesday and they answered the phone right away and asked if my stand had shipped yet in which she replied no, she then asked when I needed it by and I said ASAP. So the stand shipped the next day Fed Ex and was waiting on me at the house Friday afternoon. I installed the handles and the 2 clamps and straps went outside to try it out on a southern pine I have in my front yard. Using the pine would tell me just how quiet this stand would be with the rough bark even though all the trees I hunt out of are oaks. Its very easy to install on the tree and took about 1 minute. I am very impressed with how quiet the stand is while climbing and the best part-leveling the stand half way up the tree. My overall thought about this stand is : GREAT STAND, and worth every penny!

redfletch 11-21-2006 02:02 PM

RE: I Take It Back...(my recommendation for equalizer treestands)
 
I got an Equalizer last year and love it. I've climbed some funky trees and have always felt safe and level. And I like to get pretty high. I sit ALL day and don't have a big problem with the seat. There's a lot of product out there and I've bought quite a bit of it but this stand works for me!

Dadicuss 06-22-2013 03:22 PM

NavyDeerHunter..if your still out there, management has changed a few years ago. I have not had any problems communicating with now BuckShot Mfg. They have a new line out called Next Generation. Give them a call if you get this message.

PKhunterCT 11-03-2013 02:59 PM

NavyDeerHunter..if your still out there, management has changed a few years ago. I have not had any problems communicating with now BuckShot Mfg. They have a new line out called Next Generation. Give them a call if you get this message.

Just went to the Buckshot MFG site. Doors are closed. Guess they didn't get the orders they needed to stay open.

hatchet jack 09-28-2014 12:10 PM

Best Climbing stand there is

hatchet jack 10-26-2014 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by cjsportsman (Post 1766657)
I called last Tuesday and they answered the phone right away and asked if my stand had shipped yet in which she replied no, she then asked when I needed it by and I said ASAP. So the stand shipped the next day Fed Ex and was waiting on me at the house Friday afternoon. I installed the handles and the 2 clamps and straps went outside to try it out on a southern pine I have in my front yard. Using the pine would tell me just how quiet this stand would be with the rough bark even though all the trees I hunt out of are oaks. Its very easy to install on the tree and took about 1 minute. I am very impressed with how quiet the stand is while climbing and the best part-leveling the stand half way up the tree. My overall thought about this stand is : GREAT STAND, and worth every penny!

You won't be sorry you have this stand. I have one for 8 years and it's a solid stand. The leveling cranks are the BOMB. GREAT STAND. I am going to orded another one soon.

HJ

LONG IN THE TOOTH 07-05-2015 01:02 PM

I have had an Equalizer Stand for five years - I liked it so much that I sold four of my other stands. It's dead quiet, easy to climb, quiet to deploy. I had problems with the straps too - I just made a better set for myself.....no big deal. I busted the handle on one of the cranks while throwing it on my four wheeler. They replaced the parts quickly - I did have to pay for them, but again, no big deal.

I cannot count the number of deer I've harvested out of this stand with bow, pistol, and muzzleloader. The seat's a bit hard - after awhile I just stand up - no creaking, snapping, popping, shifting. I don't know about some of you others, but I simply love mine.


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