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killer243 08-29-2005 08:02 PM

i got ripped off!!
 
brought my bow into a local hunting and fishing shop. i always stop in once or twice a week just to bs and buy a few things.

well i bring my bow in to have it tuned, a new sight put on, 6 gold tip arrows cut to 29", and the weight to be moved from #52 to #55 pounds. brought it in on saturday pick it up today after school. cost $100. get home and on the first shot the point insert pulls out when i try to pull the arrow out of the bag target. f&*k i say. next shot went the same place as the first 6 inches right. "i am only 10 ft away" so i take one more shot which hits the same spot so i try to move my sight to the right however it is all the way to the right.walk back to 15 yards and now the arrows are hititng 10-13" right.

i put the bow back in the case to be brought back and i wrote a letter telling him what was wrong and that if he dosen't know what he is doing to tell me so i am not waisting my time and money. then i get so mad i decide to look at the bow again and see if i can fix it.

and as i looked at the limbs i noticed that the top one had a much wider gap where you have to turn the screw to make the draw weightheavier then the bottom limb. i really think this guy has no clue what he is doing. i am soooo mad right now i am ready to jump outa my skin.
the worse part is i don't think anything was wrong with the bow when i brought it in. and the only thing that he did that was right was wax the strings

TerryM 08-29-2005 08:23 PM

RE: i got ripped off!!
 
Not trying to be negative here but why would you pay someone to tune your bow and adjust draw weight. All you need is an allen wrench kit to adjust limbs and install a sight, likely 1 screw only. What you now need to do is measure your ATA, brace height and check your tiller. Learn to do this stuff yourself, its more satisfying than relying ( and paying ) someone else. If these specs are out whack you need to retune your bow. I bought a cheap portable press for 50 bucks and never looked back, if I can do it anyone can.

Allseasonhunter7 08-29-2005 09:18 PM

RE: i got ripped off!!
 
not everyone has the time

BowHuntingFool 08-29-2005 09:31 PM

RE: i got ripped off!!
 
It's hard to find a good shop! More and more I make the time to try to do things myself. It is hard but sure is satisfying! Good luck!

TerryM 08-29-2005 10:15 PM

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not everyone has the time
Agreed but driving to a proshop ( and burning expensive gas ) likely takes longer than installing a sight and adjusting draw weight. Tuning a bow is actually interesting and in the process you get way more familiar with it and can figure out problems most times yourself. If you can't the more experienced people here always seem more than happy to help. Just because someone works in an archery shop does not mean they are experts. Not saying I am at all or ever will be but basic tuning a bow is something most people can do with a little help and few tools.

MASTERDIVER 08-29-2005 10:46 PM

RE: i got ripped off!!
 
TerryM,
Speaking of doing it yourself:D I want to change my poundage from 62# TO 65#. I have the allen wrenches to do it but don't want to mess up my bow. Which way do I turn my screws and is there a particular order to do it in? Quarter/half or full turn?

Thanks

Washington Hunter 08-29-2005 10:56 PM

RE: i got ripped off!!
 

ORIGINAL: Allseasonhunter7

not everyone has the time
Not everyone has the 5 minutes it takes to adjust the weight and swap sights?

Probably two of the most basic skills needed to tune your own bow and they both take less time than driving to a shop.

I agree with Terry, these are two things you could/should learn to do on your own. You'll save a lot of money and if something happens like what you're going through now, you've got no one to blame but yourself.

TerryM 08-30-2005 06:05 AM

RE: i got ripped off!!
 

Speaking of doing it yourself I want to change my poundage from 62# TO 65#. I have the allen wrenches to do it but don't want to mess up my bow. Which way do I turn my screws and is there a particular order to do it in? Quarter/half or full turn?
Different bows have different amounts of turn needed per pound. Check your owners manual or if you don't have one call customer service of your bow manufacturer. But you are on the right track of doing both top and bottom in smaller increments and don't forget to check your tiller again after you have changed the poundage.You will be "Turning down" or tightening the screws that hold your limbs in the process, you may find it takes some pressure to move these bolts.

G2 Shooter 08-30-2005 07:10 AM

RE: i got ripped off!!
 

ORIGINAL: MASTERDIVER

TerryM,
Speaking of doing it yourself:D I want to change my poundage from 62# TO 65#. I have the allen wrenches to do it but don't want to mess up my bow. Which way do I turn my screws and is there a particular order to do it in? Quarter/half or full turn?

Thanks
Most bows increase draw weight by 3-4 pounds with one complete turn of both bolts. Tighten the top bolt 1/2 turn, then the bottom and repeat. You should be good then. Make sure you turn both bolts an equal amount. If you have a Bowtech, make sure you loosen the locking bolts on the side of the riser and re-tighten them when you are done.

Allseasonhunter7 08-30-2005 09:22 AM

RE: i got ripped off!!
 
i was speaking for killer i can and have done those by my self
being in school 5 days and working 2days a week i have alot of time

PABowhntr 08-30-2005 09:48 AM

RE: i got ripped off!!
 
That stinks. I would be just as upset if it happened to me. Though, Terry has a point. Running into situations such as this is a very good excuse to learn to do it yourself. Once you gain the knowledge it gives you a sense of freedom with your equipment.

BHS 08-30-2005 10:37 AM

RE: i got ripped off!!
 
I've ran into the same problems with local shops, and the so called experts that work there. As the old saying goes, "If you want something done right, do it yourself". If it's important, you'll find the time.

GRIZZLYMAN 08-30-2005 11:21 AM

RE: i got ripped off!!
 
I've learned how to do my own setup, tuning, etc... and I'm glad I did. I don't have a lot of time either, but when you are out by yourself, something goes wrong, and you are no where near a bow shop, it comes in handy to be able to change sights, rests, get your center shot, paper tune, etc...

Also, you might want to invest $15 for a scale to check your draw weight. When I got my new bow earlier this year, I couldn't figure out why I couldn't get it tuned. I backed it down a couple of turns of my bolts. For some reason it worked. I increased my tension bolts by 1/2 turn and shot again. It was Ok. Put it on the bow scale and it was maxed out! Lesson: if you buy a bow from one of the catalog stores, check the poundage before you draw an arrow through it.

MASTERDIVER 08-30-2005 11:46 AM

RE: i got ripped off!!
 
Right OnI work on that this weekend. Should I use a bow scale even though I'm only going up 3lbs? Will the adjustment hinder my string at all?

Thanks

MASTERDIVER 08-30-2005 11:57 AM

RE: i got ripped off!!
 
OH here's my set up: I really like it but just want to tweek it! Any input.

Parker Magnum Hunter Outfitter
Draw:26"
Weight: 62lb
Single Cam
WB/QS
Carbon Force Arrows 27"
Muzzy 3bl, 100gr

TerryM 08-30-2005 02:54 PM

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OH here's my set up: I really like it but just want to tweek it! Any input.
The first things to do in tweeking is making sure you are within specs. Measure your ATA, Brace Height and check your tiller. Then I believe in paper tuning before hitting the range to finalize sighting in ( some people don't pay much attention to paper tuning though ). The paper tear will tell you in which direction to move rests and nocks, also make sure you download and read the Easton tuning guide before you paper tune. If you can get her sighted in and get good groups from field points then a good broadhead should be just about at the same impact also.

killer243 08-30-2005 03:26 PM

RE: i got ripped off!!
 
i know i know i should do it myself but i don't have a press or anything. i do put my own sights,rest and thatsort of stuff on my bows i just don't have the time right now to learn to tune a bow and buy a press.

anyhow i brought the bow back and the guy was really sorry he said he had someone new do it for me or something like that. now it is shooting great but i don't think i'll be going in there again, i am still in flames about it

nubo 08-30-2005 06:43 PM

RE: i got ripped off!!
 
I'd start by turning your limb bolt's about 1/2 turn each and then check your poundage ,if you aren't where you want to be then repeat the step again .
The biggest reason likely for your bow not shooting the way you want it to is because they go by a basic setup ,not a seup which refer's to you or them ,so when you bring your bow home you still need to fine tune it to yourself ,nobody can set the bow up to you unless your dshooting it while they're working on it .It sound's to me that your arrow fletching might be hitting your rest which in turn is nocking your arrow off center .Try moving your rest in a bit and then shoot it ,if it's closer to where you want it to shoot ,then move it again in the same direction till you get it where you need it to be .I'd start at about 10yrds get it centered and then back off to 15 to see if it's still centered ,if it is then back off to 20yrds and repeat .Even if the bow shoot's great for him ,it won't shoot the same for you.
For this type of work you don't need to have a press .As well if you get your bow centered then adjust your sight over a bit at a time till and then repeat the step's I've mentioned above ,you might not have to once you get the arrow rest set right .
nubo

nubo

KONK 08-31-2005 08:51 AM

RE: i got ripped off!!
 
For those of us who would like to learn how to tune our bows proberly, are there any books or videos that you guys would recommend? I can do the minor things like replace sights and set draw weight.But I would like to learn to do the rest on my own including fletching arrows. Any help?

zak123 09-04-2005 06:25 PM

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ORIGINAL: KONK

For those of us who would like to learn how to tune our bows proberly, are there any books or videos that you guys would recommend? I can do the minor things like replace sights and set draw weight.But I would like to learn to do the rest on my own including fletching arrows. Any help?
This site will teach you more then any book or video.

Switchback attack 09-07-2005 09:40 PM

RE: i got ripped off!!
 
I experienced some really bad deals with ashop takeing advantage of me when I first startd shooting.Buying my bow there I thought they should have taken care of me,but they didnt...After that I started makeing time & with alot of information I have got here & there I can now tune my bow...I WILL NOT let anyone adjust or even think about tuneing my bow again...Dont get me wrong, I dont know it all,but there are alot of really cool people out here & elswhere that are glad to help us do these things...Heck, I made a killer portable bow press & its custom...LOL Hey thanx to all that has helped us through it all when we needed it....Its well appreciated here...


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