newhunter35

Oldguy,

You don't have to put a stud in your rifle. I found a sling where there are no studs on ebay. Here is the item # 7129450560. Check it out--I'm the one that bought it and for the price you can't beat it. It does everything that a sling is supposed to.

Oldguy

Thanks for the suggestions and ideas. Will check into them.

You don't have a web site for that shorter barrel do you?

If I got the shorter barrel, would that reduce the effective range?

Thanks again, for the ideas!

MLKeith

WWW.trackofthewolf.com for the drop in barrels. I have a .54 Hawken that has the one in 48 barrel and I am planning on ordering a .50 slower twist to shoot round balls in competition. They have both size barrels available to match your rifle. My .54 has the larger hex barrel but they make a .50 in the oversize hex blank to match. I think I would go this route if I were you. The shorter barrel will affect your overall pergformance but I have shot elk with short barrel muzzleloaders and they died. You will just have to keep your shots withing range. Since CO does not allow scopes the ranges you will be able to make a good sight picture are going to be 100 yards or less especially with older eyes. Personally I like the longer barrels but I think you could do well with the shorter one. Also there is a front sling mount made that attaches to the ram rod holding ring (not sure about the source but the previous poster says he has one).

Triple Se7en

you can make the same rifle with your Hawken and order a Green Mountain drop in barrel with shorter length and faster twist for the conicals and the cost is about $160.

Also

MLKeith... an excellent idea. They make a short 21" .50 caliber with a 1:28 twist for that Hawkins of his.
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Need a link for this 21" GM barrel for the Hawkens. Can't find one anywhere. All I found is a 28" which still makes the rifle over 8.5 lbs... not what poster Oldguy wants. Thanks!

cayugad

According to my Green Mountain I.B.S. Barrel Specification Chart barrel #910120 is a .50 caliber 21" 15/16th blued percussion barrel. In checking the Green Mountain I.B.S. Barrel Conversion Chart, a T/C Hawkins .50 caliber will accept barrel #910120

I have no link to give you Triple Se7en. I was only going by the booklet Green Mountain Barrel Co. sent me when I ordered my last barrel from them.

If your barrel is a 1" on the flats you would have to order barrel #910215 which is a .50 caliber 21" blued percussion barrel 1" on the flats which according to them will fit the larger Hawkin and Renegade stocks...

I have no idea what the loss of the 7"s of barrel would amount to for weight, but it should help some.

Roskoe

According to "Cal" at the Shootin Den in Colorado Springs, the most popular elk bullet out here is the .50 cal. 348 gr. Powerbelt - Aerotip version is supposed to penetrate a little better than the hollow point. Most hunters are shooting Triple 7 - 90 to 105 grains. Still lots of folks who swear by the 385 gr Buffalo Bullet - and the 410 gr. Hornady Great Plains.

A particularly nice in-line muzzleloader for the money is the T/C Black Diamond. I have seen them for not much over $200 . . . .

Oldguy

Thans everyone for the great feedback! I am investigating several of your suggestions! I found the "Greeen Mountain" barrels. I have also
discovered that Cabelas carries them!

Thanks again!!!!!

cayugad

Track of the Wolf usually has the best prices on the Green Mountain Barrels and they are excellent to work with... Give them a call and they will work with you for getting any barrel you might like. Or call Green Mountain Barrel Company direct. Great people there too...

Track of the Wolf

rick_reno

Oldguy - I hunted with a Hawken until last year, it just got too heavy to carry. I switched to a TC Black Diamond - it's the one with the 26 inch barrel - not the 24. I've seen them under $300 on sale. Shoots great, it's light and it's sling ready.

Triple Se7en

Actually, the shorter Black Diamond is a 22". The short 22" comes in at 6.9 lbs.

See Black Diamond 22" Here (scroll down)

Buy It Here for $246.32 (Code #THO8932)

(NOTE) That 8 lb listing for the 22" Black Diamond at this website is not correct. It weighs 6.9 lbs (on average)