Omega,yes or no
 

I am contemplating buying a new Omega after i get my new bow.What i would like to know is,should i buy it and what kind of accuracy can i expect from it.Those of you shooting it with excellent results,what kind of loads are you pushing through it?I am looking for honest answers and no brand biases please.Thanks to all:D

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Sure its a fine ML. I am knight biased but omega is just fine. If I put that much into a ML, probably go ahead and go up to a encore. Go for it.

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I have an Omega and just love it. Shoots great and easy to clean, if you are lazy like me it is great.

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Hi newman1.

I just purchased a new Omega myself about two weeks ago. I have not shot it yet because of work and the weather but I'm going to try to shoot it tomorrow. I have the stainless laminante version with a Simmons AETEC scope.
Two friends of mine also have an Omega and they shoot the Powerbelt aerotips and hollowpoints (295 grain) and seem to have success with them using two Pyrodex pellets.
This is the load I am going to try if I get to shoot tomorrow. I will try to let you know how it goes.
I thought about the Encore but I already have all the centerfire rifles I need. Everything from Groundhogs to Grizzlies is covered. So that is why I got the Omega.

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Thompson Center rifles are without doubt in almost all cases excellent shooting rifles. Their customer service and warranty is second to none. The Omega has rated very high for years in customer satisfaction. It has also been on the market for many years. All the bugs are therefore worked out of it.

A few of the bad points I have read on the Omega is the size of the trigger guard. I still can not understand why T/C has never addressed that issue and made it bigger. Another issue is the dreaded crud ring. The Omega does seem to be prone to that crud ring although I personally feel that is because of their choice of powder and projectile. This new Black Mag3 powder has my interest because they report no crud ring...

The Omega is an excellent selection for an inline black powder rifle. That is not to say other brands also do not have great shooting guns, just that you asked about the Omega.

One poster made an excellent point, he purchased an Omega because he had all the centerfire rifles covered and did not need the Encore. I could not agree more. I purchased a Black Diamond XR because I liked the style of the rifle and the price more then the Omega... I personally love the rifle.

As for the kind of accuracy you can expect? As any of the old shooter will tell you.. that is related to how much work you put into knowing your rifle whether it is a T/C, Knight, even a CVA or any other brand. Also the load you work up and the amount of practice you put into it. For instance I have an old Traditions sidelock rifle that with roundball I could make you really wonder whether or not you would want a roundball rifle instead of an inline after you see it shoot. It took me countless hours of range time and load work to reach that point.

I have read posts that people with Omega Rifles have shot deer at over 300 yards. That is not to say I am telling everyone to shoot that far, but it does go to show that if you work the load up and practice, the rifle is able to do that. So if your a good shot (which you probably are since you are considering a muzzleloader in the first place) and you get hooked in this sport like many of us, you will probably be telling us of 200+ yard shots you are making.

One thing I have always noted about muzzleloader shooters, whether they shoot inlines, sidelocks or even flintlocks... they make their one shot count. Not just once as a lucky person might, but over and over time and time again. That's because we took up this sport for the challenge as well as the fun of these rifles...

You're going to like your rifle and be hooked like the rest of us soot burners...

:D

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I have an Omega and a Traditions Pursuit. I like both of them, I love the Omega. It does take some time to work out a load that will shoot clean. I cannot use Tripple Seven (at least the ffg version) as the crud ring is unbearable. I now shoot either APP or my real prefered powder Black Mag'3. The Black Mag'3 is so good I'm sure people are getting tired of me mentioning it. It is great stuff in my Omega. I would only buy an Encore if I really needed the ability to switch to center fire calibers and they feel different that the Omega also which is not a good thing for me. If possible try to get someone with an Omega to let you feel it, or try one out at a store. People are saying it is too expensive at 25 to 28 dollars a pound. I just saw 777 at a local gun shop for 28 dollars and that stuff does not work for me.

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I'm very happy with my stainless Omega but I also like the Encore too! If you think you would like the option of buying different centerfire barrels, then you may want to give the Encore a serious look. The crud ring on my Omega using 777 is definately noticeable but I can live with it as I have about 1/3 lb of 777 left. I plan to give Black Mag a try in the future and since there is a dealer 40 miles from me.

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Keith-I got to shoot the Omega friday with BlackMag3.Only had time to shoot 6 shots.No swabbing between shots and still loaded OK.I broke the plug loose and screwed it out with my fingers.3 or 4 strokes with a dry toothbrush,and the plug was shiny as new.My Omega will never see 777 again.

Charlie

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I have owned both the Encore and Omega and prefer the Omega if what your looking for is a good muzzleloader. Mine actually outperformed my Encore in accruacy. I haven't shot alot of other brands but my experiences with the Omega are fantastic. The first animal I took with mine was a Mule deer in Kansas w/open sights at just under 200yds. I don't know how much was luck but I'll take it. Then I used 150gr Pyrodex and T/C Shockwaves 250gr. I have since switched my powder load to 100gr of 777. From what I've read I would consider trying the Black Mag3 I think it is everyones talking about. Oh yeah reliability in bad weather is also outstanding. I hunted with it in a pouring down rainstorm in Iowa for hours and when it came time to fire it went off without a hitch. I think its a great ML but you make your own decision. I actually just ordered the new one w/ the thumbhole stock (check it out) it feels great. LOL :D:)

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Yes... it's a top-tier inline with a top-tier warranty. The only quirks with some is the hollow synthetic butt-stock that needs to weighed-down & sprayed with foam to reduce felt recoil and noisy branches banging against the stock. Or buy the wood version like I did. Another quirk with all is smallish trigger guard. Most hunting gloves work the cocked trigger ... but not the real bulky ones. You may need to buy gloves with shooting fingers.

100 grains with any bullet 240-300 will get you started nicely. I use 777 FFF with mild primers to negate 777 crud rings. I get the powder for $16.20 whenver I buy bulk primers in lots of 1000... thus avoiding the 777 HAZMAT fee that's already attached to the 209 primers.

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Welcome to the ever growing club of Black Mag'3 enthusiasts.

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MLKEITH,I plan on making a trip up to Cabela's after my 777 is all used up.I plan on getting two pounds of Black Mag'3 to do my own testing with that stuff.I hope it shoots as clean as i've heard.what charge of powder would get me close to 100 gr. of777 to get me started?:D

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You know what I don't understand about the new breed of ML is why they are so much better supposely?

I have had all kinds from inlines to sidelocks, and basically if your barrel is good, your action is bedded nice, no pressure points, good crisp trigger, the gun is a good gun. bottom line.

The only the the new breed of omegas and revolutions do is add astestics to the picture. For example there is no need for a bolt on my disc. Pure looks.

I see knight say thier knight revolution is the most accurate knight out. Ok, so I called asked is the barrel different than my knight elite. Nope, same barrel. Is the ignition time the same. Yea pretty well. So why is the revolution so much better (expensive) than my elite or an extreame disc? He admited it was alot to do with styling.

The omega the same way. Thats the reason I like the encore over the omega. And the wolverine over my disc.

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I am not allowed to own a encore[:@][:'(]

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Why? You just get out of the joint?:D

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Nope,but i got into a bar brawl a while back and after i proceded to whoop up on the guy who charged at me after i got in my car,he proceded to press charges on me,and i was charged with assault.Pretty bogus if you ask me.I am actually not totally sure if i can own a rifle or not but dont have the money to pay a lawyer to look into it right now.Does anyone have any insight on it?anyone in the same situation?

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Have you been convicted of a felony yet? If not, then you are good to go. If so, I hate to hear it for ya. I hope all turns out for ya.

That will learn ya not to hang out at cacoon cantina or the brass rail. :D

Man, MD is one place they don't play around with fighting. When I first moved up here in 1996 or so, my ex wife got into a wreck with a bunch of inner city folks in Columbia. I went down to the crash and started brawling with them, 3 on one mind ya. The fire department came and told me they don't know where I am from, but I will get arrested if I kept it up. I said "what?" for a minor fight? So the police came and was about to take me away when a bunch of people vouched that the guys from B-More started it and all saying they were going to find me and jack me. Whatever that meant. I mean where I grew up, you get into a little fistacuf, and the local sherrif came and said, "mark, I am going to tell your grandfather and get on home". Just a part of life there, no big deal.

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As far as i can remember,i was found guilty and was sentenced to 1 year in jail,but my attorney appealed it and i got 1 year probation instead of jail time.i am not sure if i was still convicted though.I guess i'll have to get some money together and have him check it out for me.

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Let me get this right. You mean to tell me you went thru all that and not sure if you are convicted of a felony? So when you fill out a job form, and they asked if you have been committed a felony, do you pick yes or no? Assult can be a misdemeanor or a felony depending how severe. Sounds like you have a misdemeanor. Don't worry, when you fill out a FFL form, they will tell ya.:D

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I have not had to fill out a job application because i have at the same job before this happened.

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If you are shooting 100gr. of ffg 777 you should be able to duplicate the velocity or exceed it with 100gr. of Black Mag'3. I find with 300gr. bullets the BM3 actually gives more velocity than equal volume of ffg 777 and felt recoil is less. Lighter bullets may not give the same results as the BM3 seems to prefer heavier bullets. In any case I would limit my max load in a magnum rated rifle to 120gr. of Black Mag'3.

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You know as a collector and gun nut, that would have been my first priority when being sentenced. Just went thru a divorce a few years ago. The ex wife knew I was so worried about the cops showing up, so she pushed it hard even though she was the one leaving. She knew the rules and had me over the barrel. She stole things, destroyed things, she even hit me, and looked at me and begged me to do anything cause, if I did she said, she would be living in that house and she would own my gun collection. It sucked pretty bad. Sounds like you can own anything. A misdemeanor.

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In Maryland, if you have been convicted of a crime which carries a prison sentence of one year or more, you cannot own a firearm. Unfortunately, that's the law here. Even if you didn't do jail time, but were put on probation, the possible sentence of one year or more that comes with the charge/offense disqualifies you from firearm ownership in Maryland.

Sorry about that. You can thank the 20+ year reign of Maryland dummycrats for that law.

BTW, the MD state legislature is having more anti-gun hearings beginning March 9th. God save us all....

Kindest Regards,

-Will in Maryland

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I'd have one if F&G would let me use it here.

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will, I was seeing on the news last night they are making a big deal out of that shooting in Towson town center being done with a shot gun. There goes our long gun freedoms.

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It is indeed a shame. Shotguns are not being considered, unless they are the "assault type". I hate the liberal media...

Kindest Regards,

-Will in Maryland