Breech plug lube
 

Can Anyone recommend a breech plug lube??

Has anyone tried Thompson Center's breech plug tape??

Thanks

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I have tried the tape and it works but I still do not trust it. I have to have more range sessions before I really depend on it. The best breech plug grease I have ever used is made by CVA. It is called, CVA Slick Nipple And Breech Plug Grease. This is the only brand I have ever used and after shooting the breech plug came out without problems.

One other point is, when shooting some of the hot powders like Triple Se7en, after your seventh shot or so, take your breech plug tool and turn the breech plug. You do not have to remove it, just turn it back and fourth. That will insure that the plug is not seizing in the rifle and it will aid in the removal. Also if like some you shoot at a range some distance from your home, take the breech plug out of your rifle at the range instead of leaving it in your rifle and driving 45 minutes or so. It will help in the removal of the plug also. Carry a plastic zip lock bag and you can put the dirty plug, nipple, striker, etc in there to keep every thing clean. It does not hurt to run a few good wet patches through the barrel before the trip home for cleaning either.....

Try the CVA. Also a lot of people are having luck with Slick 50 One grease, which is an automotive grease. You can buy it at any Wal Mart. I have a tube of it but have not used it yet......

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I use gorilla grease and it has worked well.

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Permatex automotive anti-seize for me.
Cures all your ills.

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Permatex® Anti-Seize Lubricant from a auto parts store to prevent galling, corrosion and seizing and to assure easier disassembly. Temperature range: -60°F to 1600°F. Salt, corrosion and moisture resistant . it works good for me

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CVA Breechplug & Nipple Grease has anti-heat properties similar to the 2400* nickel/nuclear stuff. Put it on all threads... screw it in - take it out - re-lather.. then hand-tighten. The purpose of that is to ensure enough grease is on both bore threads & plug threads when using hot, magnum loads of 777. If magnum loads of 777 is what you use, then while at the range, loosen - then hand-tighten every 10 shots.

Using any other powder like Pyrodex, Goex?... put it on the threads & forget about it until you're done shooting. Then immediately after your last shot... while the barrel is still toasty-warm, loosen the plug two complete turns until you get the rifle home.

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I've been using Gorilla Grease. Is this automotive stuff less expensive?

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Allegiance05,

I have really moved away from the greases and other messy products and have gone strickly to tape... If it is applied correctly it will provide you all the slip and protection you need for continuios shooting.

Follow this link -

http://www.graybeardoutdoors.com/php...ic.php?t=39309

Again it works for me with the guns I am using but you need to make you own evaluations...

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I've not used the tape and likely will not unless I see that there is a substantial gain in performance and function other than cleanup. I think there may be a greater opportunity to have the tape pushed from between threads.

Basically any high temperature anti-seize lube should work fine.

I've used the T/C , CVA and Knight natural lubes with good results.

I'm presently using Birchwood/Casey Choke tube lube. I got a good deal and four tubes of the stuff at a recent gun show. Seems to work very well.

As mentioned, loosen the breech plug or nipple ever 6-10 shots to ensure that a nothing is seizing up. Clean and relube after 30 or so shots.

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Is $3 expensive?

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I use TC Super Lube and have had no problems.

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Thanks everyone for your suggestions.

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You may all think I'm an idiot, but all I have ever used for breech plug lube on my Remington 700 MLS is good ol' Bore Butter or Remington Wonder Lube (same thing), and I have had zero problems with breech plug removal. I like it because, for the most part, I know it will not contaminate the powder and cause possible mis- or hangfires.

Brian

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Don't dare try Bore Butter or T/C Lube with magnum powder charges of 777. Plenty of posts on seized plugs using those methods.

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Ditto!

Don't use anything that is not designed for high-temp/anti-seize.

Unless, you like the idea of a seized/frozen breech plug or nipple.

;)

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I don't remember how much it is - but comes in 10 oz plastic bottle with brush applicator. Made by "Versa Chem" or any other name brand at local auto store. It's Hi-Temp Copper based thread lube(2000 Deg F). There is also a low temp application up to 1600 Deg F. It will last you lifetime on smoke pole plugs,not to mention automotive applications requiring high temp thread lube. I bought it years ago for exhaust manifold jobs and then started using on breach plug when using Black Powder. Never had a problem with auto related parts or breech plugs using any type of powder.

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BDHUNTR,

I for one do not think "ill" of your Bplug lube... I have two remington's myself and both of them make the seal necessary at the face of the breech plug with the flange on the rear of the barrel. As long as this seal remains tight and gasses do not escape the back through the threads you will be just fine. In a lot of other rifles this seal is not machined as well as the Remington and then your ideas might take a hit.

Continued good luck with your Remington.

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AJ52,

I have used both copper and aluminum based anti sieze products at one time or another but have since quit - I found that I was shooting some of these particles right into the bore lands/grooves of my rifles. When I dropped the bore scope in looking at the breech area they were quite obvious - filling the bore with copper or aluminum particles didn't seem like a smart thing to do...

Switching to the tape took care of all of those problems + never contaminate powder with oils or greases... make clean-up a lot easier also.

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sabotloader,

I've noted in prior posts you use the tape. l'm gonna give it a try soon,see how it works.

I'm not suggesting you didn't apply properly - but - I use just enough antiseize to barely cover threads. I've never had evidence of residue in breech area(with a bore light). I use the same stuff (as recommended) on spark plugs,exhaust manifold bolts etc...

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The best I have used is the Slick50 ONE grease. Seems to work well in all my rifles. Adding tape provides further insurance but the grease alone is doing the job for me.

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sabotloader

Just wondering is the breech tape you mentioned in the link not the same as industrial plumber teflon tape (Pink stuff)? I have used this prior and worked fine, just curious.

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skeeter 7MM,

It is! - I now buy my tape at Home Depot - lot less expensive that TC tape...

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AJ52,

I have this belief that you need to stop the blowback at the face of the breech plug. If it screws up snugly against the rear of the barrel so that gas can not pass back through the threads, if you achieve this seal your blowback problems will be nonexistant. The big deal is to get this seal... When I was using the greases I would put a light coat (ring) around the face of the BP (and the threads) to help provide this seal - that really was kind of useless because the grease at that temperature will not provide a seal, but it certainly will go forward into the barrel.

The tape has provided the answer for me, with the overwrapping of the plug a seal is almost guaranteed and as the first shot drives excess tape back into any void where I might not get a seal.. I virtually do not want any blowback in the threads of the breech plug.

Just a theory but so far it is working...

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just use a little bore butter on the threads. it all you need. been doing this for years.:)

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green01,

I really do wish it were that easy with all guns... If my theory is correct you are getting the breech plug seal I am talking about so you are not getting blowback back through the threads of the BP. What kind of gun are you shooting?

Those people that do not recieve this seal, either with a finger tight BP or BP that is not machined to match the barrel flange and are shooting large loads of T7 MAY not find bore butter as an answer - it can not handle the heat.

I have read in different posts several people using BB as BPlug lube and if it works don't fix it - but there are a lot more people out there fighting stuck breech plugs all time.

Just my two cents....

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Thanks, figured as much but never seeing it here at any hunting shops yet thought I'd ask.

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sabotloader i use a t/c 50 cal., traditions 50 cal. and i am working with a new frontier mag. i have had the first two for years. all i have every used was the bore butter. but i don't shoot them today and wait days to clean them. i clean them the same day i use them. if i had one that leaked presser threw the breech plug threads i would be shipping it back the factory. sounds like the plugs are made at one location and the barrels are coming from another. anyway you look at it it is a poor design that should be corrected. you should not need anything on the threads to seal. :)

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I use VersaChem ANTI-SEIZE. It can be purchased at most auto-supply stores. Never had any problems with it .

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Everytime I see a post reference this topic, it always amazes me at the different ways that people use to protect the breech plugs from seizing. Good to know there are other alternatives when the one you are using no longer works for you.

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I have considered the tape. How do you guys tape? Do you just tape most of the threads or go all the way out past the threads? I have seen some people really take the crap out of em. Some savage guys go past the threads I seen.

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I use that all purpose grease for wheel bearings and ball joints that you can get a 2 lb tube for 99 cents at walmart, it works great and you get 80% more for half the cost over a tube of any other plug grease.

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white lithium grease

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I've been using TC lube in my 50cal. Knight for over 2 years.. just
bought a 45cal and have used it in that one also. Any good quality
goop will work just use it use it often then clean and start over.
When shooting mag loads of 777 or so the hint about turning then
removing will work for you.:)

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white lithium grease

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Was going to post it.........You beat me to it! Another product is Never SEIZE.


KEEP ON ROOTING!!!

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All I ever use is Bostic Antisieze.It is copper based with molydisulfide.Has a silver gray color.I never sieze a plug.If it works on high pressure steam fittings,it will work on anything.The only drawback is it's messy to clean up.I put a patch on my breach brush and screw it in and out a time or two.The Moly will actualy penetrate into the metal,giving lasting protection.I have been a maintence mechanic for 36 years,and never had the stuff fail.Comes in 8oz can with an applicator brush.One can will last a lifetime.

Charlie Correct spelling is Never-Seez