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charlie brown 12-15-2004 10:40 PM

RE: Your states regs on scoped muzzys ?
 
Pretty simple in NV - no scopes or sights operated battery or that have a radioactive isotope during the ML only season, and during rifle season scopes are allowed. No Smokeless powder. The regs are kind of sketchy as far as 209's, it says "A wheel lock, matchlock, or flintlock ignition system, or a percussion ignition system that uses a primer or percussion cap."

Ruger-Redhawk 12-18-2004 09:46 AM

RE: Your states regs on scoped muzzys ?
 
Georgia No scopes during BP Season. Fiber Optic's are okay.Not sure about my home state of Florida.

Ruger Redhawk

Montana Bob 12-18-2004 11:32 AM

RE: Your states regs on scoped muzzys ?
 
I don't know is it me but I believe a Muzzle loader season should be primitive. Flintlock,Matchlock or the likes.
These muzzle loaders these days are shooting 200 yards plus and it seems to me it's losing it's meaning. Scopes,Primers,Powder pellets.
It's seems it's becoming less and less of a challange with a muzzle loader and more like a single shot rifle.
What next... A 30-06 shell on the end of arrow held at full draw on a bow with a scope and trigger.
I thought it was suppose to represent the way our Forefathers took game and was suppose to be a challange. Just my opinion:)

driftrider 12-18-2004 12:23 PM

RE: Your states regs on scoped muzzys ?
 

I don't know is it me but I believe a Muzzle loader season should be primitive. Flintlock,Matchlock or the likes.
These muzzle loaders these days are shooting 200 yards plus and it seems to me it's losing it's meaning. Scopes,Primers,Powder pellets.
It's seems it's becoming less and less of a challange with a muzzle loader and more like a single shot rifle.
What next... A 30-06 shell on the end of arrow held at full draw on a bow with a scope and trigger.
I thought it was suppose to represent the way our Forefathers took game and was suppose to be a challange. Just my opinion
But you have to admit that the in-line has definately rejuvenated what was probably a dying sport, just like the compound bow rejuvenated bowhunting (and the same thing could be said about that as well). If you saw that logic through to it's conclusion the "primitive" season would involve hunting with rocks and crudely sharpened spears (with is silly, but it's goes to my overall point). I think that the in-line has pulled muzzleloading from the the ashes of history and brought many more hunters, new and recycled, into the sport. The more hunters we have, the more likely our sport will continue for our children and grandchildren. Consider the fate of bowhunting if the compound bow hadn't been invented that created a renewed interest in bowhunting, also considering the strong anti-hunting forces that have long targeted bowhunting as the primary focus of the anti-hunting efforts. If the bowhunting community had whithered down to a few thousand guys with English longbows, the antis would have gotten bowhunting banned 20 years ago. But there are millions of bowhunters now who exclusively use "modern" compound bows thats collective strength has kept bowhunting alive and well despite the vigorous attempts by the antis to have it banned. Muzzleloading is no different. Without the in-line, saboted bullets etc... that opened up muzzleloading to the masses, muzzleloading today would consist of a few thousand guys with smoothbore flintlocks, and pretty soon the muzzleloader season would disappear altogether.

One thing is for certain, like the compound bow, in-lines, sabots, pellets and 209 primers are here to stay. While some of the muzzleloading protectionists don't like it (similar to the reaction of the traditionalist longbowmen with the advent of the combound bow), this means that there are going to be more hunters in the woods during ML season. But to me that's a good thing because the more hunters we have, the stronger we become and the longer our heritage will endure.

If you still choose to hunt with a Brown Bess flintlock musket for the added challenge, more power to you. That's your way and you are and ought to be free to do what you like, but let the rest of us use what we choose. The universal truth to muzzleloading is that they all stuff from the front, one shot at a time.

Mike


Mike

Montana Bob 12-18-2004 03:14 PM

RE: Your states regs on scoped muzzys ?
 
Mike
Your point is well taken and you are correct about the rejuvination of muzzle loaders with the advances.
I have taken game most every MODERN LEGAL weapon. It just seems like some of the hunting heritage is missing or going down hill. I am not trying to support any anti hunting crap by any means.
I am just as guilty as I shoot a Scoped High Power Rifle as well as a compound with all the bells and whistles.
I don't know... Maybe the answer would be more Primitive hunts in the states. I just kind of held muzzle loading as a sacred art as we have advanced every other method of hunting.


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