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steviebiggun 12-11-2004 08:43 AM

Your states regs on scoped muzzys ?
 
In Minnesota were not allowed to use scopes of any kind on Muzzleloaders during the the Muzzy season. What are you're states regulations on this. Thanks for the info.

drgildy 12-11-2004 08:49 AM

RE: Your states regs on scoped muzzys ?
 
Same in SD.

Triple Se7en 12-11-2004 09:13 AM

RE: Your states regs on scoped muzzys ?
 
Scopes are fine in Michigan

cayugad 12-11-2004 09:19 AM

RE: Your states regs on scoped muzzys ?
 
Wisconsin you can have a scope as long as it is 1X or less, meaning no magnification. RED DOTs are also permitted as are fiber optic sights during our muzzleloader season.

There is no restriction on the kind of projectiles we can use. .40 caliber rifles is the smallest we can shoot and .45 caliber in a smoothbore is the smallest. Our season starts right after out modern rifle season which always ends the weekend after Thanksgiving, and was extended to 10 days this year.

MikeE51848 12-11-2004 11:23 AM

RE: Your states regs on scoped muzzys ?
 
Late ML season in PA, no scopes, fiber optic sights ok.
Flintlock only, I might add.

Wolfhound76 12-11-2004 12:25 PM

RE: Your states regs on scoped muzzys ?
 
Scopes are legal in IL with no magnification limits.

quigleysharps4570 12-11-2004 01:45 PM

RE: Your states regs on scoped muzzys ?
 
Kansas, no scopes during the muzzleloader season.

Paul L Mohr 12-11-2004 02:00 PM

RE: Your states regs on scoped muzzys ?
 
Like said above, MI is pretty much anything goes except laser sights. And you can't use smokeless powder in the lower part of the state during regular gun season.

Paul

Lefse 12-11-2004 02:39 PM

RE: Your states regs on scoped muzzys ?
 
One power in ND

MLKeith 12-11-2004 04:07 PM

RE: Your states regs on scoped muzzys ?
 
In Arizona anything is OK as long as the rifle loades from the muzzle and is single barrel and shoots black powder or a synthetic black, smokeless is not allowed. Scopes of any kind OK, 209 primers OK sealed breech OK. We don't call it a primitive hunt we call it a muzzleloader hunt.

sabotloader 12-11-2004 04:08 PM

RE: Your states regs on scoped muzzys ?
 
Simple enough in Idaho - During ML season - no scope - no magnification - no 209's

BOWHUNTERCOP 12-11-2004 04:35 PM

RE: Your states regs on scoped muzzys ?
 
New Jersey scopes ok

mdrbowler99 12-11-2004 05:43 PM

RE: Your states regs on scoped muzzys ?
 
In NY scopes are ok.

MOTurkeyTamer 12-11-2004 08:38 PM

RE: Your states regs on scoped muzzys ?
 
Missouri allows scopes of any power on ML's. Sabots and 209's are allowed also.

driftrider 12-12-2004 12:48 AM

RE: Your states regs on scoped muzzys ?
 
In Iowa the minimum caliber is .44cal for a muzzleloader, but otherwise pretty much as long as it loads from the front and only shoots one projectile, anything goes. Any bullets, sabots, scopes, smokeless powder, etc.... ML handguns are also legal, as are cap & ball revolvers during the last ML season. During our late ML season one can also hunt with a CF handgun as well.

Mike

doughboysigep 12-12-2004 04:57 PM

RE: Your states regs on scoped muzzys ?
 
to expand on mdr's comment:

originally scopes were not allowed on ML during the ML season, but you could put a scope on for regular firearms season.

as said above, they are allowed now in ML season (changed about 4 years ago)

oneshot/one kill 12-13-2004 07:58 AM

RE: Your states regs on scoped muzzys ?
 
Anything goes in MD, we can use any type of muzzleloader and scope. I actually use my Encore 209x50 during shotgun season as it shoots father and more accurately than a slug gun. But I like the idea of one shot, one kill as my name states.

mlang 12-13-2004 12:37 PM

RE: Your states regs on scoped muzzys ?
 
Only 1x or red dot in NE

FlDeerman 12-13-2004 08:32 PM

RE: Your states regs on scoped muzzys ?
 
OK in Fl.

johnch 12-15-2004 09:26 PM

RE: Your states regs on scoped muzzys ?
 
In Ohio as long as it loads from the front (1 barrel) and 38 cal or larger any scope or sight is legal

charlie brown 12-15-2004 10:40 PM

RE: Your states regs on scoped muzzys ?
 
Pretty simple in NV - no scopes or sights operated battery or that have a radioactive isotope during the ML only season, and during rifle season scopes are allowed. No Smokeless powder. The regs are kind of sketchy as far as 209's, it says "A wheel lock, matchlock, or flintlock ignition system, or a percussion ignition system that uses a primer or percussion cap."

Ruger-Redhawk 12-18-2004 09:46 AM

RE: Your states regs on scoped muzzys ?
 
Georgia No scopes during BP Season. Fiber Optic's are okay.Not sure about my home state of Florida.

Ruger Redhawk

Montana Bob 12-18-2004 11:32 AM

RE: Your states regs on scoped muzzys ?
 
I don't know is it me but I believe a Muzzle loader season should be primitive. Flintlock,Matchlock or the likes.
These muzzle loaders these days are shooting 200 yards plus and it seems to me it's losing it's meaning. Scopes,Primers,Powder pellets.
It's seems it's becoming less and less of a challange with a muzzle loader and more like a single shot rifle.
What next... A 30-06 shell on the end of arrow held at full draw on a bow with a scope and trigger.
I thought it was suppose to represent the way our Forefathers took game and was suppose to be a challange. Just my opinion:)

driftrider 12-18-2004 12:23 PM

RE: Your states regs on scoped muzzys ?
 

I don't know is it me but I believe a Muzzle loader season should be primitive. Flintlock,Matchlock or the likes.
These muzzle loaders these days are shooting 200 yards plus and it seems to me it's losing it's meaning. Scopes,Primers,Powder pellets.
It's seems it's becoming less and less of a challange with a muzzle loader and more like a single shot rifle.
What next... A 30-06 shell on the end of arrow held at full draw on a bow with a scope and trigger.
I thought it was suppose to represent the way our Forefathers took game and was suppose to be a challange. Just my opinion
But you have to admit that the in-line has definately rejuvenated what was probably a dying sport, just like the compound bow rejuvenated bowhunting (and the same thing could be said about that as well). If you saw that logic through to it's conclusion the "primitive" season would involve hunting with rocks and crudely sharpened spears (with is silly, but it's goes to my overall point). I think that the in-line has pulled muzzleloading from the the ashes of history and brought many more hunters, new and recycled, into the sport. The more hunters we have, the more likely our sport will continue for our children and grandchildren. Consider the fate of bowhunting if the compound bow hadn't been invented that created a renewed interest in bowhunting, also considering the strong anti-hunting forces that have long targeted bowhunting as the primary focus of the anti-hunting efforts. If the bowhunting community had whithered down to a few thousand guys with English longbows, the antis would have gotten bowhunting banned 20 years ago. But there are millions of bowhunters now who exclusively use "modern" compound bows thats collective strength has kept bowhunting alive and well despite the vigorous attempts by the antis to have it banned. Muzzleloading is no different. Without the in-line, saboted bullets etc... that opened up muzzleloading to the masses, muzzleloading today would consist of a few thousand guys with smoothbore flintlocks, and pretty soon the muzzleloader season would disappear altogether.

One thing is for certain, like the compound bow, in-lines, sabots, pellets and 209 primers are here to stay. While some of the muzzleloading protectionists don't like it (similar to the reaction of the traditionalist longbowmen with the advent of the combound bow), this means that there are going to be more hunters in the woods during ML season. But to me that's a good thing because the more hunters we have, the stronger we become and the longer our heritage will endure.

If you still choose to hunt with a Brown Bess flintlock musket for the added challenge, more power to you. That's your way and you are and ought to be free to do what you like, but let the rest of us use what we choose. The universal truth to muzzleloading is that they all stuff from the front, one shot at a time.

Mike


Mike

Montana Bob 12-18-2004 03:14 PM

RE: Your states regs on scoped muzzys ?
 
Mike
Your point is well taken and you are correct about the rejuvination of muzzle loaders with the advances.
I have taken game most every MODERN LEGAL weapon. It just seems like some of the hunting heritage is missing or going down hill. I am not trying to support any anti hunting crap by any means.
I am just as guilty as I shoot a Scoped High Power Rifle as well as a compound with all the bells and whistles.
I don't know... Maybe the answer would be more Primitive hunts in the states. I just kind of held muzzle loading as a sacred art as we have advanced every other method of hunting.


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