remington 700 ml
 

i want to convert mine to 209 shotgun primers and wondering what is the best one? i've seen a couple different ones out there and was just wondering

RE: remington 700 ml
 

Unless you plan on using Pyrodex pellets, you are better-off staying with hot #11 nipple & magnum #11 caps that produce less scope blowback & less crud buildup with 777 loose powder. With this 209 conversion -- which is better than the Remington conversion, posters reported 777 pellet success using ultra-hot, Federal 209 primers.

Caution: Cover your scope bottom!

Cabelas Remington 700 ML 209 Breechplug Conversion

RE: remington 700 ml
 

My understanding is that the conversion kit Cabela's sells is better, if that is the info you are looking for.

I agree with triple seven though. I have a 700ml, I use musket caps and don't have any trouble with it. I just don't see the point in changing to 209's yet. I watch my buddies that have them and they wrestle with getting the primers out and stuff, mine you just roll the rifle over and the musket caps fall right out, no tool needed to load or unload them.

Paul

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I converted my 700MLS to 209 a few years ago with the cabela's one. It has worked excellent. I know a number of guys who have experienced problems with the rem 209 kit and the ones that have switched to the Cabela's are now thrilled!

I use winchester 209W primers and haven't experienced any problems with hangs, misfires or the dreaded crud ring using T7 Loose.(I do swab between shots though and my current load is 100 grs loose)

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MarineStud

Ditto - ditto -everything skeeter 7MM said + the added protection of a more water proof system, especially in states where an open breech is required.

If the open breech isn't required and you are using a Cabelas conversion you can use a simple 20 guage shot shell plastic case as a cover then you don't need to worry about you scope. If you are using the Remington conversion you have a couple of options.

The new Remington weather shroud is metal not fiber and will stand up forever, just needs a gas escape drilled in it. I make them out of copper tubing but now that Remington is producing metal ones I am just going to order a couple - they fit my Austin and Halleck also.

Here is a picture - the top picture shows the Remington with a home made shot gun shell weather shroud and the new Remington metal shroud (without a gas vent). The bottom picture shows the A&H with homemade copper shroud.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...r/Wshouds2.jpg

Cabels Remington conversion

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...results1.jhtml

Good luck - give ashout if you need any additional information...

RE: remington 700 ml
 

Sabotloader, thanks for the tip on the weather shroud. How long will the 20 gauge hull shroud last? I assume it would degrade after firing. Does it increase the blow back in the bolt?

RE: remington 700 ml
 

Skeeter,

With the Canadian Cabels 209 system I really don't get that much blow back, more soot and material from the primer than anything. I have made three or four of these shot gun shell primers - still have the original on the gun - haven't blown one yet on a Remington... the A&H on the other hand blows them right away. The trick is with the Winchester 20 guage is to cut the plastic off just slightly above the brass - the plastic is the thickest there and will slide on the bolt snugly.

With a Remington you already no that cleaning the bolt is part of the religion of shooting a Remington. When I am able to go to the range I shoot 20-30 shots without any problems. I am shooting 100/110 grains of t7-2f - I really like my Remingtons. In fact somebody once asked -"if money were know object" ya know for a hunter like me I would still pick the Remington SS

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sabotloader, thanks for the info. I have a number of 20 gauge hulls from my starter bird days(knew their was a reason I didn't pitch them..lol). My rem is the best inline interms of accuracy I have owned and hasn't caused me any grief what so ever.

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I have a couple of questions and comments about the Remington ML with the Canadian conversion. 1) After you have taken the pin out, how do you remove the factory firing pin and install the new one. I feel like pliers are needed, but I do not want to damage the pin. 2) Why can't you use the metal (factory) weather shroud with the Canadian conversion? 3) I was able to get a one-piece breach plug from the Canadian complany, so there is no need for a breach plug and nipple. I believe it goes with their Ruger conversion. As far as this gun goes, I can not imagine a more accurate ML. I shoots far better than my capabilities.

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I am not sure how this message is goin to turn out - hope it makes some sense...